QUOTE(yhtan @ May 1 2025, 05:48 PM)
is it more expensive to charge outside cause company rate than your own house private rate?Hari2 no q, Soyacincau
Hari2 no q, Soyacincau
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May 2 2025, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 2 2025, 01:01 AM) . always no eveidence but just words of someone..very credible Has BYD bought a lot of ads at that tech site.? In the OP, were the reporters' trip to CCP China sponsored by BYD.? ....... https://finance.sina.com.cn/tech/roll/2025-...xf8897960.shtml - Google Translated: BYD Legal Department: A netizen has been detained for spreading rumors that the Seagull caught fire and exploded while charging - 26 April 2025 .... We always respect and accept suggestions and supervision from all sectors of society, but the Internet is not a lawless place. We will resolutely take legal action against those who spread false information and deliberately smear BYD's brand reputation, and hold them accountable in accordance with the law. At the same time, we reiterate that in order to further crack down on the chaos of online black public relations, the decision to reward qualified clue providers with 50,000 to 5 million yuan will be effective in the long term. For specific information, please contact @BYD News Anti-Counterfeiting Office (email: xwdj.office@byd.com) to provide clues. Thank you for your continued attention and support to BYD. ... . . . |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 2 2025, 12:36 AM) . AFAIK, EV charging companies in CCP China impose electricity fee and service fee together, plus overtime fee to discourage hogging of their charging stations. 'Boy96' is likely only showing the electricity fee, ie not the total fee including the service fee, ....... [attachmentid=11513129] Google Translated:
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Home ..... wall charger ada bagi FREE, apa apa queue leh?
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Just switched to EV for a month already, to say no queue is misleading or deceiving. Sometimes there will be a queue, sometimes no queue at public chargers at my office and near my previous house. When there is a queue, it is a bit frustrating as you won't know how long the current EV will charge for how long.
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Still got ppl read sohailancau?
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May 2 2025, 12:40 PM
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AHH.. No wonder got EV charger company promise 10k charger by end of the year 2025. now only built around 500 charger only. this soyalancau make backfire content. nobody want to invest now.
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May 2 2025, 01:12 PM
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May 2 2025, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 2 2025, 12:36 AM) . AFAIK, EV charging companies in CCP China impose electricity fee and service fee together, plus overtime fee to discourage hogging of their charging stations. 'Boy96' is likely only showing the electricity fee, ie not the total fee including the service fee, ....... ![]() Google Translated:
. QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 2 2025, 02:00 AM) .Any evidence to show that your posted total fee of ¥0.68 above is for 500kW fast-charging.? . Likely, your very low ¥0.20 service fee is for slow-charging, not 500kW fast-charging. ....... From my above posted image, ....... Google Translated: The charging service fee is composed of the cost of investment and construction of automobile charging equipment, maintenance and update, fault troubleshooting and repair, technical support and customer consultation. . |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 2 2025, 12:36 AM) . the rate you gave is highway rnr charging station. the rate that boy96 gave is rate of charging station not on highway route.AFAIK, EV charging companies in CCP China impose electricity fee and service fee together, plus overtime fee to discourage hogging of their charging stations. 'Boy96' is likely only showing the electricity fee, ie not the total fee including the service fee, ....... [attachmentid=11513129] Google Translated:
. It is a known facts that charging station on highway is much higher than not on highway route. if you can read most of the comments in the douyin, you will notice that most is complaining about highway rate is much higher than other charging station. if do fast charging, usually fast charging is cheaper than slow charging. if you are a normal ev user and dont have home charging, you will find station with cheaper charging rate not on highway rnr. |
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how is the economy there? saw a lot youtuber says shanghai is empty, dono real or not
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May 2 2025, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ May 2 2025, 01:01 AM) . Has BYD bought a lot of ads at that tech site.? In the OP, were the reporters' trip to CCP China sponsored by BYD.? ....... https://finance.sina.com.cn/tech/roll/2025-...xf8897960.shtml - Google Translated: BYD Legal Department: A netizen has been detained for spreading rumors that the Seagull caught fire and exploded while charging - 26 April 2025 .... We always respect and accept suggestions and supervision from all sectors of society, but the Internet is not a lawless place. We will resolutely take legal action against those who spread false information and deliberately smear BYD's brand reputation, and hold them accountable in accordance with the law. At the same time, we reiterate that in order to further crack down on the chaos of online black public relations, the decision to reward qualified clue providers with 50,000 to 5 million yuan will be effective in the long term. For specific information, please contact @BYD News Anti-Counterfeiting Office (email: xwdj.office@byd.com) to provide clues. Thank you for your continued attention and support to BYD. ... . . . QUOTE(PowerSlide @ May 2 2025, 01:52 AM) .Eyewitness testimonies and videos are evidence. Fyi, ....... https://www.aboluowang.com/2025/0417/2205951.html - Google Translated: A BYD charger in Guangxi exploded in the middle of the night and burned down half a street - 17 April 2025 .... A fire broke out in Rong County, Guangxi, burning half of the commercial street. The victim revealed that the fire was caused by an explosion while charging a BYD electric vehicle. However, local officials later denied the incident and nearby businesses were silenced. ... A few days later, a(nother) victim posted a video of the fire and revealed the cause of the fire, presumably in an attempt to protect his rights. The whistleblower said that on the day of the incident, the BYD Seagull next door installed a charging pile and charged in the middle of the night, which resulted in an explosion. The family was awakened by the explosion in the middle of the night and found that the fire next door was burning down in just 10 minutes. The family was forced to climb out of the second-floor emergency window and take a video of the fire. Now the family of five is homeless and all their valuables are burned. I hope the authorities will investigate the incident and let the responsible party compensate the victims for their losses. The whistleblower also added that the exploded BYD car was burned to "only a frame and an unplugged charging cable left." One netizen commented: "BYD will delete your video and ask you to prove yourself." ... On April 15, some mainland media reported the incident, and local officials claimed that the fire "had nothing to do with new energy vehicles." The local fire department responded that the cause of the fire "was not convenient to disclose to the public." Nearby merchants directly told reporters "we can't answer," and it seems that the authorities have issued a gag order. Mainland netizens left messages mocking the Chinese Communist Party authorities and BYD: "Why can't they answer? Is it something they can't tell you?", "You try to answer it, you might be convicted of spreading rumors. Even if you are right, whether you still want to get involved or not, everything is subject to official announcement", "You are trying to hide your true colors here, the answer has already been given", "Since (the authorities) are still investigating, which means there is no result yet, how can you confirm that it is not BYD's charging station?", "There is only one new energy vehicle (in mainland China), which is Tesla , forget about the others. Of course you have money, and then you think you are lucky and you can ignore what I said." The Chinese Communist Party authorities are vigorously developing the so-called "new quality productivity", and BYD and other so-called "national brands" are all "key protection targets" of the government. Previously, domestic electric vehicles such as Huawei and BYD had constant accidents, and most of the news was suppressed by the government and businessmen. . |
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QUOTE(brian81st @ May 2 2025, 01:15 PM) the rate you gave is highway rnr charging station. the rate that boy96 gave is rate of charging station not on highway route. .It is a known facts that charging station on highway is much higher than not on highway route. if you can read most of the comments in the douyin, you will notice that most is complaining about highway rate is much higher than other charging station. if do fast charging, usually fast charging is cheaper than slow charging. if you are a normal ev user and dont have home charging, you will find station with cheaper charging rate not on highway rnr. Highway RnR fast-charging fees in CCP China is about 2-3X fast-charging fees elsewhere.? Fyi, ....... AI Overview No, fast charging at public EV stations is generally more expensive than slow charging, though there can be exceptions depending on the specific operator and charging time. While fast charging offers faster replenishment, it often comes with a higher per kWh (kilowatt-hour) or per-minute rate. Slow charging, while taking longer, can be more economical due to lower per kWh prices, especially if you can utilize off-peak or discounted rates. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: May 2 2025, 01:39 PM |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 2 2025, 01:29 PM) . then how..yday in sg a ice car also burn..any incident can happenEyewitness testimonies and videos are evidence. Fyi, ....... https://www.aboluowang.com/2025/0417/2205951.html - Google Translated: A BYD charger in Guangxi exploded in the middle of the night and burned down half a street - 17 April 2025 .... A fire broke out in Rong County, Guangxi, burning half of the commercial street. The victim revealed that the fire was caused by an explosion while charging a BYD electric vehicle. However, local officials later denied the incident and nearby businesses were silenced. ... A few days later, a(nother) victim posted a video of the fire and revealed the cause of the fire, presumably in an attempt to protect his rights. The whistleblower said that on the day of the incident, the BYD Seagull next door installed a charging pile and charged in the middle of the night, which resulted in an explosion. The family was awakened by the explosion in the middle of the night and found that the fire next door was burning down in just 10 minutes. The family was forced to climb out of the second-floor emergency window and take a video of the fire. Now the family of five is homeless and all their valuables are burned. I hope the authorities will investigate the incident and let the responsible party compensate the victims for their losses. The whistleblower also added that the exploded BYD car was burned to "only a frame and an unplugged charging cable left." One netizen commented: "BYD will delete your video and ask you to prove yourself." ... On April 15, some mainland media reported the incident, and local officials claimed that the fire "had nothing to do with new energy vehicles." The local fire department responded that the cause of the fire "was not convenient to disclose to the public." Nearby merchants directly told reporters "we can't answer," and it seems that the authorities have issued a gag order. Mainland netizens left messages mocking the Chinese Communist Party authorities and BYD: "Why can't they answer? Is it something they can't tell you?", "You try to answer it, you might be convicted of spreading rumors. Even if you are right, whether you still want to get involved or not, everything is subject to official announcement", "You are trying to hide your true colors here, the answer has already been given", "Since (the authorities) are still investigating, which means there is no result yet, how can you confirm that it is not BYD's charging station?", "There is only one new energy vehicle (in mainland China), which is Tesla , forget about the others. Of course you have money, and then you think you are lucky and you can ignore what I said." The Chinese Communist Party authorities are vigorously developing the so-called "new quality productivity", and BYD and other so-called "national brands" are all "key protection targets" of the government. Previously, domestic electric vehicles such as Huawei and BYD had constant accidents, and most of the news was suppressed by the government and businessmen. . oh its chainah so more hoohaa right? hahaha |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 2 2025, 01:29 PM) . then how..yday in sg a ice car also burn..any incident can happenEyewitness testimonies and videos are evidence. Fyi, ....... https://www.aboluowang.com/2025/0417/2205951.html - Google Translated: A BYD charger in Guangxi exploded in the middle of the night and burned down half a street - 17 April 2025 .... A fire broke out in Rong County, Guangxi, burning half of the commercial street. The victim revealed that the fire was caused by an explosion while charging a BYD electric vehicle. However, local officials later denied the incident and nearby businesses were silenced. ... A few days later, a(nother) victim posted a video of the fire and revealed the cause of the fire, presumably in an attempt to protect his rights. The whistleblower said that on the day of the incident, the BYD Seagull next door installed a charging pile and charged in the middle of the night, which resulted in an explosion. The family was awakened by the explosion in the middle of the night and found that the fire next door was burning down in just 10 minutes. The family was forced to climb out of the second-floor emergency window and take a video of the fire. Now the family of five is homeless and all their valuables are burned. I hope the authorities will investigate the incident and let the responsible party compensate the victims for their losses. The whistleblower also added that the exploded BYD car was burned to "only a frame and an unplugged charging cable left." One netizen commented: "BYD will delete your video and ask you to prove yourself." ... On April 15, some mainland media reported the incident, and local officials claimed that the fire "had nothing to do with new energy vehicles." The local fire department responded that the cause of the fire "was not convenient to disclose to the public." Nearby merchants directly told reporters "we can't answer," and it seems that the authorities have issued a gag order. Mainland netizens left messages mocking the Chinese Communist Party authorities and BYD: "Why can't they answer? Is it something they can't tell you?", "You try to answer it, you might be convicted of spreading rumors. Even if you are right, whether you still want to get involved or not, everything is subject to official announcement", "You are trying to hide your true colors here, the answer has already been given", "Since (the authorities) are still investigating, which means there is no result yet, how can you confirm that it is not BYD's charging station?", "There is only one new energy vehicle (in mainland China), which is Tesla , forget about the others. Of course you have money, and then you think you are lucky and you can ignore what I said." The Chinese Communist Party authorities are vigorously developing the so-called "new quality productivity", and BYD and other so-called "national brands" are all "key protection targets" of the government. Previously, domestic electric vehicles such as Huawei and BYD had constant accidents, and most of the news was suppressed by the government and businessmen. . oh its chainah so more hoohaa right? hahaha |
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ May 2 2025, 01:38 PM) . https://www.douyin.com/search/%E9%AB%98%E9%...124017910500623Highway RnR fast-charging fees in CCP China is about 2-3X fast-charging fees elsewhere.? Fyi, ....... AI Overview No, fast charging at public EV stations is generally more expensive than slow charging, though there can be exceptions depending on the specific operator and charging time. While fast charging offers faster replenishment, it often comes with a higher per kWh (kilowatt-hour) or per-minute rate. Slow charging, while taking longer, can be more economical due to lower per kWh prices, especially if you can utilize off-peak or discounted rates. . This post is inside the douyin link, you posted. In china, fast charging is cheaper due to people scared fast charging is more damaging to battery, therefore fast charging is cheaper. generally, in elsewhere in the whole world, slow charging is cheaper, but not true in china. since we are talking about china This post has been edited by brian81st: May 2 2025, 03:32 PM |
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QUOTE(brian81st @ May 2 2025, 03:20 PM) https://www.douyin.com/search/%E9%AB%98%E9%...124017910500623 .This post is inside the douyin link, you posted. In china, fast charging is cheaper due to people scared fast charging is more damaging to battery, therefore fast charging is cheaper. generally, in elsewhere in the whole world, slow charging is cheaper, but not true in china. since we are talking about china In CCP China, fast-charging being cheaper than slow-charging is referring to the electricity fees only or the total fees (= electricity + service fees).? Fyi, ....... https://auto.cyol.com/gb/articles/2025-03/1...Pb7VBKFWlg.html - Google Translated: Is the service fee more expensive than the electricity fee? Car owners still have "charging anxiety" despite the chaos of charging piles 2025-03-14 .... Charging pile charging chaos: parking fees and service fees are varied A Tesla owner recently found that the half-hour charging fee was as high as 80 yuan when charging at a Tesla Supercharger in downtown Beijing, and the service fee was even higher than the electricity fee. Specifically, the charging fee was 80 yuan, the electricity fee was 30 yuan, and the service fee was 50 yuan. The unit price of electricity was 0.83 yuan, and the unit price of service fee was 1.36 yuan. The owner told reporters: "It's okay for emergency use, but this charge is really unreasonable." .... The reporter found through the Tesla APP that the charging prices of Tesla charging piles located near the Second Ring Road and the Third Ring Road in Beijing vary depending on the area. Among them, the charging price of Tesla Supercharger near the Third Ring Road is 2.65 yuan/kWh, including 0.86 yuan/kWh of electricity fee and 1.79 yuan/kWh of service fee; the charging price near the Second Ring Road is more expensive, reaching 2.80 yuan/kWh, the electricity fee remains unchanged, but the service fee has increased to 1.94 yuan/kWh. .... In fact, it is not uncommon to use low electricity prices to attract car owners to charge, and then charge additional parking fees, parking fees and service fees. For example, at a Teladian charging pile in a community near the Third Ring Road in Beijing, the reporter found that the charging unit price was 1.2 yuan/kWh, but an additional service fee of 0.8 yuan/kWh was actually charged, and the total charging unit price reached 2 yuan/kWh. In addition, car owners also need to pay a parking fee of 5 yuan/hour and an overtime parking fee of 0.25 yuan/minute (free for the first 60 minutes), and they also need to recharge or prepay in advance to use the charging equipment. ... https://www.sohu.com/a/790614032_121130005 - New energy charging station charging standards, fast charging is more expensive than slow charging! 2024-07-04 .... 1. State Grid Slow charging service: approximately RMB 1.261 per kilowatt-hour. Fast charging service: approximately RMB 0.607 per kilowatt-hour. 2. Teladian Slow charging service: about 1.6 yuan per kilowatt-hour. Fast charging service: approximately RMB 1.462 per kilowatt-hour. 3. Wanma Group Slow charging service: about 1.2 yuan per kilowatt-hour. Fast charging service: about 1.8 yuan per kilowatt-hour. 4. Star Charging Slow charging service: about 0.6 yuan per kilowatt-hour. Fast charging service: about 0.8 yuan per kilowatt-hour. ... Electricity fees.??? Service fees.??? Parking fees.??? Overtime fees.??? .??? Refueling ICE-V cars has very much less such fees problem. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: May 2 2025, 05:50 PM |
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soyacincau went full retard with ev obsession mamat spec with beard tu topkekkkkkk lost my respect to this site SourLemons liked this post
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QUOTE(SourLemons @ May 1 2025, 05:26 PM) .Fyi, latest video out of CCP China, ....... True or Fake News.??? . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: May 3 2025, 10:30 PM |
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