Drove within safe speed limit and distance.
My car lights are on so I'm visible
Sudden torrent of rain and a patch of water caused skidding

Front Tyres are Goodyear ATM while rears are Dunlops, both relatively new (less than 2 years) & threads are thick. Only drive less than 15k per year


Car no ESC nor ABS as well as being FWD, all use defensive driving techniques learn at Aus tried turning before nearing the van, no mas. ie dun slam on the fukkin brakes, feather brakes and throttle together-gether


No audio to Cam cos..... It was cheapo no brand one. Had to physically take out the MSD card to transfer




This post has been edited by rtk73: May 1 2025, 09:45 AM

Rip.. eh o wait.. ur lucky

hydroplaning already...

Heavy rain yet sticking to the right most lane is a recipe for disaster. Lots of ponding and potential waterfalls caused by opposite traffic.

Wad car?
Proton wira? Saga?

This post has been edited by Boomwick: May 1 2025, 09:48 AM

Ya laaaaaaaaaaa
No size for performance tyres cos need to upgrade wheels

Driver skill problem, not skilful enough to drive on highway

consider spending more time in the slow lane.

Worst if lorries stays in the mid lane


Gen2
Not highest spec

No audio.. you scream like lil girl when it happen izzit ?

If not Goodyear Eagle F1 or Michelin Pilot Sports...

Jgn jadi hero on the road during rain...

Looking at the rain and bedio I'm sure your already > 80KM

This post has been edited by soul78: May 1 2025, 09:52 AM

Oh i see gen 2..
This gen2 got some weight distribution issue where front is heavier and back is lighter..
Good thing u never slam brakes and do press release press release. If not will see tow car come ad

This post has been edited by Boomwick: May 1 2025, 09:53 AM

kaya butter toast see ts lane hogging fast lane

Please help tibai ts 99

This post has been edited by JoeK: May 1 2025, 09:52 AM

Ts dashcam didn’t show speed, probably ts disable it

Usually people who disable it has something to hide

lower down the angle of your dashcam

No ESC and no ABS, drive fast on right lane in the rain and u call this defensive driving?

ok.

If car below 1.4TAN and using palatz tyres , jangan jadi hero on the road...

TS not even using Michelin pilot sport 5 want to act like hero. Stick to left lane next time if you're driving a shitbox

certain brands i find is prone to hydroplaning. my personal experience

Actually I'm the type that keeps quiet/internally screaming when sked lol

Those need 16/17" min
Using 15" on stock plotong rims

Yup, car is front heavy
On corners quite nice to zoom through

Matcha didn't read ah?
No brand dashcam, no rears oso

need to change pants?

Car no ESC nor ABS as well as being FWD,

Your speed?

This post has been edited by jojolicia: May 1 2025, 10:00 AM

Lowest ady, even had to cut/modify the body so can go lower

You learn defensive on cars without assistance
With ESC & ABS sure won't have issues in the first place

Missed my 2T RWD Conti
Those uses michelins

OK. Noted

Can share some?

Grand Torismo

This post has been edited by danielmckey: May 1 2025, 10:02 AM

performance taya for dry road grip only

Nope

85-90
Again ain't that fast cos front oso selow

which brand got speed cheapest i want beli

TS don't skimp on tyres. Always angkat Brizstone or Michelan

Fuhh.. luckily got lotus handling

bila free? teach me all ur defensive skill

pick model/ series not brand. kasi u bs ecopia sama saja lol

yes... TS velli lucky lotus came to save da day...


TS , you better go payback abit in LOTUS store todei... since is horiday...

u drive anywhere..any conditions..any lanes..at any time..
if it bound to happen it will happen..

Goodyear & Dunlop not China/local brand tho

Cukur

Sked need to defend from surprise buttseks

Lol. Now geely ady

You’re braking too hard.

Kekwa
Defensive driving konon. Good tires konon.

From the video can already guess you did or had everything opposite of what you typed in op.

Doesn't matter what tyre you're using, when heavy rain, slow down and move to left or middle lane if your car doesn't have ABS.

Put some weight like dumbell set in the the trunk going to help?

TS car tare ESC , ABS , TCS

tapi ade STD, HIV, EBOLA

Tyres are good... the issue here is the weight of the car. It's light and tend to float with big puddles of water and when there is a layer of water on the road. . No solving this other than go slower... now that you know your car's limit (without good active / passive safety system), just be careful...

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: May 1 2025, 10:23 AM

linglong tyre

Got ammoshaf?

Maybe take some air out of the tire during rain season

Obviously u didn''t practice what u learned. Where's the 5 secs gap in the rain? That's 111m at 80kmh.

Ts go pray and thanks god

such heavy rain, you dare stay in fast lane , sure slippery

hydroplaning 101 release the gas, do not brake

hydroplaning 102, before release gas, go tyre shop and get a 2 sets of TOYOL slick tyres for tofu dreg racing...

this would give you more rubber contact on the road..

Ady went infront of church todei
That's it

time to change all 4 to this (MXG is legit successor to ATM/TM2)
https://www.goodyear.com.my/tyres/goodyear-...urance-maxguard

since your car quite old just avoid driving too fast or even driving on fast lane especially in wet weather

TS defensive driving 404.... heavy rain like dun drive so fast

heavy rain drive so fast/... F1 or PS4 also will not save you as the wider the tire it will be more prone to aqua planning
thin tires size below 205 usually no PS4

80-90 in rain is fast meh?

Thanks!

Took ATM since it was the latest one and 'said' to be 'good' in the wet... Well brochures said it. We don't have independent tyre testing here locally

ts thinking about us in his final(?) seconds or not
that speed macam wont die anyway. my friend get rear ended by old man at 80kmh.

This post has been edited by GHBZDK: May 1 2025, 10:58 AM

Meanwhile, still got people proud they drive Axia rahmah cash buy vs someone else in a safer, modern car with car loan.

F1 logic - the car in front help clear the water off the road already, just have to follow the fella's tyre tracks and it'll be dry

TS

Honestly was just thinking whether the car will flip or not

Hands and feet move by itself

Flip if you steer wrongly.
Aqua, release all foot pedal, hands hold firm.

You replied 80-90 km/h, true not fast.
Check your so claimed 2yo tyres (the print on tyres, maybe 3), harden? Thread direction (water drainage).

Some genius install in/outside terbalik

This post has been edited by jojolicia: May 1 2025, 11:15 AM

if not fast will not have aqua plane lo....
anyway your car life....

good year asurance is crap though, cheaper but dont last long
last time downgrade from PS4 to assurance, top up sikit now on F1.

Lol, Nahh 2 years is the age as well

PS4 dun have on 15"
F1 too

Inb4 better buy China performance tyres

This post has been edited by rtk73: May 1 2025, 11:15 AM

90 km/h fast la in heavy rain. TS using Gen2 without ABS, almost 20 year old car, suspension component bushing all koyak, alignment balancing dunno how old.

I think it's oil on road.

You can see some cars at the side of the road, perhaps they already skidded previously

Suspension actually I maintain properly, same with tyres

Too much fakes if ori proton but always buy good 3rd party ones

True also la. No esc nor abs is the key consideration

Aiyo bro, your car not traction control some more hog right lane during rain. Unfortunately KBT is right this time.

Satay bush absorber mounting dog bone all change? Even multi link bush and power steering bushes and tie rod end stabilizer link bushes ball joint?

Raining also want drive fast.😅

Tires also play a big role. Those good tires big proper big water grooves will have better performance on wet road. U take those cheap economy tires for jimat fuel, the grooves are very small and not design to disperse water well because its more design for longevity of the tire and fuel economy.

Ts, dunlop brand usually low end one. Can tell me exactly wat tires u using now, i recommend 1 level up for u.

Me, I put in cheap tires in the RWD car, so can slide it around in the wet as the wet grip is totally rubbish.
Even taking off in the wet can slide the car like those F1 car, tire spin but the car dun move.
the joy to drift in slow speed and not lose control
as the tire almost off, thinking of changing to cheap UHP now. Expert told me better to use cheap UHP than same price range branded eco tires.

If you have one car, than need to have good tires for all rounded use.

lowyat pipu told i maxguard is eco choices no grippy one

Yup...
All change ady last year those dog bone 2 long 2 shorts are all ori proton

Multi link/ stabilizer were torn so were replaced as well on both sides
Ball joint still tight
Power steering bushes well know to be loose but still good (ori dun last) / tie rod still tight too

Rear bearings replaced in both side early this year, one side started a very very minute hum, didn't want to take chances so replaced both



Dunlop D05
Goodyear ATM2


Below says maxguard oso shiat

A good driver doesn't need those to survive on the rain
I've only owned 1 car that has those...for me makes no difference

Change car la else u stay poor forever . Makan minyak like crazy one gen 2

I drive only on weekends
Hard to justify a new car
Most of the time Motobodo

Then still ok la

Exactly!

TS is a noob driver.

goodyear is bad when it gets hard.
dunlop saved your life.

Heavy rain why still drive fast..

Kek

lol. one look already know is driving fast.

dont misuse the word "defensive driving".

this does not look like defensive driving.

If you need to ask ....

I already mentioned so many times here, get the best tyre you can afford if possible. Dont stinge on tyres. And dont listen to idiots who say 'buy cheap one and change more often is safer'. Call them go f themselves.

Tyres are the only thing get in contact with the road when you are speeding. Not familiar with 15in and below tyres, but i believe michelin xm2 or conti uc6/7 should have size for 15in. These 2 are far better than the 2 junks u using.

15 inch got lah, Pirelli Cinturato Rosso

Pirelli Cinturato Rosso





This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: May 1 2025, 01:47 PM

gy atm isn't very bad, just that the thread longkang not deep enough even it's new compared to other brands.

if want affordable 15" then can try look for toyo tr1.

no abs is like that 1 la... it's hard to control the braking force when u desperately want to stop the car completely in rain.

Yeah

Xm2 used before, skidded at low speed on Toyota camry before
Yup....

Didn't think about this brand, CC3 continental used previously was dangerous in the wet, so banned that one ady

I replaced GT ATM with GY Assurance Maxguard. Deeper longkang.

kinda like the footage, has a film quality to it lol

Dont think ur fast, speed looks reasonable...

U also have braked earlier, maintain a safe distance between cars....

Right lane is dangerous during heavy rain...Even if my tyres are in super good shape, I will stay away from the right lane...alot of crazi drivers on that lane one...they think they are driving fast and furious...hahahaha

This post has been edited by LDP: May 1 2025, 03:02 PM

U r lucky that no topple

TS anneh very obvious lose concentration veering to the left lane then terkejut sudden brake while countersteering causing urself to skid.

Pusing story say "dunno why suddenly skid"

Pirelli marketing team in MY is kinda......... but yes they do have for 15" onwards

can check the link I give u . cheers!

Longkang =/= wet grip

Cheapo cam

Say ady.... Drive selow2

Yeah, literally forgot it existed

sarahan marketing tarak kuat

most of the time ppl will think PIRELLI P ZERO only

Then what is the function of tyre grooves?