QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 30 2025, 09:50 PM)
非也非也Banana culture more and more, Common and apparent
Banana culture more and more, Common and apparent
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 09:12 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#21
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
217 posts Joined: Mar 2014 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 09:13 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#22
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,030 posts Joined: Jan 2022 |
That's why the Gen-Z and younger generations is a lost generation and disconnect from older Malaysians.
They attended SJKC schools and brainwashed fully by the system to obey CCP without thinking twice. Older generations Gen-Y and before, still divided to fully trust CCP unless they also came from SJKC. The SK ones are more indebted to Western system because they were brought up by Western education system which lasted through universities in US, Europe, Australia etc. You can also notice that older Singaporeans and Malaysians also not entirely pro China. They stand firm with their identities and are more confident themselves that if they obey entirely soon they'll be replaced by the Mainland Chinese themselves due to the advantage of being fully fluent in Mandarin. What the Mainland Chinese cannot compete in is they're the same with the bananas when it comes to other languages. So glorify Mandarin is also to submitting to them that you're inferior. |
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 09:17 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#23
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
70 posts Joined: Nov 2014 From: The 10th Dimension |
|
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 09:21 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#24
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,030 posts Joined: Jan 2022 |
If recall correctly, LKY once said that a normal person can only master 2 languages at most properly in their entire lifetime.
Back before 2010, most Malaysian Type-Cs attended SK schools the 2 languages which already occupied their learning was BM and English.You can still learn a 3rd language but the command usually will be weak. That is why we have cases where BM teachers were complaining in SJKC schools that their Malay language command was weak. It's no surprise. SG education system avoided that by requiring the 2 languages which students must take as compulsory subjects are 1. Your own Mother Tongue 2. English as International most used language. You can opt for 3rd language if you want and is optional. |
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 09:47 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#25
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
596 posts Joined: Dec 2010 |
TS u living inside gua all these while is it? its been like this since decades ago la, alot of KL native ppl are bananas because not all KL native chinese ppl went to chinese schools, my dad, my uncles, aunties from KL all are bananas didnt go chinese school but they are very fluent in cantonese because thats the language all chinese in KL spoke growing up in KL pgsiemkia liked this post
|
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 09:51 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#26
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
113 posts Joined: Aug 2016 |
So you mean Chinese first gen in Malaysia are bananas? Coz they speak their dialect and not mandarin.
Able to speak Cantonese and not Mandarin is keeping more to the roots than the other way around. You can learn Mandarin from school but those who speak Cantonese means they communicate in their mother tongue better with their older family members. |
|
|
|
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 09:59 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#27
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,030 posts Joined: Jan 2022 |
Mandarin is important with the rising China influence across the world today but still in a globalized community you can survive with English in almost every country out there even in non native countries such as Japan, Korea, Europe easily with broken English.
Unless you plan to become translator for the Mainland Chinese people. To them even if you're fluent in Mandarin you'll still be considered 2nd class and inferior to their national system as foreign born Chinese. Just as how Malay people impression on Nons even if they can speak fluent Malay it'll always be a non mother tongue language for Nons. |
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 09:59 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#28
|
![]()
Newbie
6 posts Joined: Jul 2011 |
TS bait fishing ni. Look at the history of modern mandarin and cantonese, you'll get the answer. If you are talking about keeping to roots... then cantonese speakers are the ones keeping to their roots, not mandarin speakers Rusty Nail liked this post
|
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 10:05 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#29
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,030 posts Joined: Jan 2022 |
Where Malaysia SK education system failed compared to SG education system is that BM was compulsory forced on Nons even when it wasn't their mother tongue.
So the 2 main languages slots that most normal person can master had already been taken up by BM and English. The other hidden reason is to give an added advantage to be better than the rest because it is their mother tongue language. SG instead went by mother tongue requirement which retained the advantage of each race while making English the main language for all daily interactions. That is why they're better positioned to be a globalized nation that does trading/businesses efficiently. |
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 10:07 PM
|
![]()
Newbie
14 posts Joined: Sep 2017 |
Cantonese is their mother tongue not mandarin
|
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 10:11 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#31
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
863 posts Joined: Apr 2019 |
QUOTE(Root-X @ Apr 30 2025, 08:54 PM) Nope, according to some wumao here you are a banana if you can't speak Mandarin and read/write simplified Chinese. Even if you speak any other Chinese dialects fluently and can read/write traditional Chinese you are still a banana. Most local c who can only speak Cantonese or Hokkien are illiterate in Chinese. pgsiemkia liked this post
|
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 11:29 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#32
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,682 posts Joined: Oct 2004 From: let there be rain |
their root is canto. not mandarin. lol ts dunno own root. chiak sai.
|
|
|
Apr 30 2025, 11:38 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#33
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
436 posts Joined: Dec 2021 |
Apa sarahan Cantonese? I teach my son Cantonese and English and I don't intend to force him to learn Mandarin. He only needs to master English and BM here.
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 1 2025, 12:00 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
246 posts Joined: Jun 2020 |
QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 30 2025, 01:21 PM) If recall correctly, LKY once said that a normal person can only master 2 languages at most properly in their entire lifetime. LKY praised me liao lidat.Back before 2010, most Malaysian Type-Cs attended SK schools the 2 languages which already occupied their learning was BM and English.You can still learn a 3rd language but the command usually will be weak. That is why we have cases where BM teachers were complaining in SJKC schools that their Malay language command was weak. It's no surprise. SG education system avoided that by requiring the 2 languages which students must take as compulsory subjects are 1. Your own Mother Tongue 2. English as International most used language. You can opt for 3rd language if you want and is optional. Moi can speak Bahasa, Enggurishes, Perancis, Jarmen, Mandarin, Kongtongwah, Jippunises, Koleanese, now learning Sipanish. It was because of these language berterabur that gave me the quick acceptance for a work sponsor visa in UK back then lel. |
|
|
May 1 2025, 12:03 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
246 posts Joined: Jun 2020 |
Malaysian and Singkapokrians is the only two type of bananas that proud to be bananas la.
Here UK we seen these people we say them as Sorhai proud of wrong stuff. |
|
|
May 1 2025, 12:05 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
784 posts Joined: Jun 2005 |
QUOTE(Root-X @ Apr 30 2025, 08:54 PM) Nope, according to some wumao here you are a banana if you can't speak Mandarin and read/write simplified Chinese. Even if you speak any other Chinese dialects fluently and can read/write traditional Chinese you are still a banana. Basically you're banana if not wumao enough |
|
|
May 1 2025, 12:16 AM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#37
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,372 posts Joined: Mar 2013 |
QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Apr 30 2025, 08:58 PM) Older generation mid life Gen Y millennials yes. They attended SK schools back then when China was still Communist closed up country. Actually it got nothing to do with speaking mandarin or dialects.Back then even upto mid 200x, China just recently emerged from slumber. Where got people speak Mandarin so widely like today. Depending on which city in Malaysia they only learn how to speak Chinese through casual conversation with family and friends. The phrase banana - yellow outside, white inside - was coined by the older generation who attended English medium schools from primary till secondary school. They were the generation who were really fluent in English. I doubt TS know the meaning of 'roots' when saying people lost their roots if can't speak Mandarin. Being a banana actually means Chinese in blood, but having a western outlook. And please understand the meaning of "outlook". It is not when you wear. It is your thoughts. Outlook = "a person's point of view or general attitude to life." Because of their English education, they do think somewhat differently from those who attended Chinese schools. This is mainly due to their reading materials - mostly if not all were from the western world. I for one can be deemed a banana. I still have my roots and culture, following all the festivities and traditional rituals. But when it comes to political thoughts, financial security and well being, and general outlook, I do think and hold opinions a bit differently. When comes to music and movies... |
|
|
May 1 2025, 03:01 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#38
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
1,030 posts Joined: Jan 2022 |
QUOTE(AfraidIGotBan @ May 1 2025, 12:00 AM) LKY praised me liao lidat. Master in the sense that you can read, write and converse fluently like the natives.Moi can speak Bahasa, Enggurishes, Perancis, Jarmen, Mandarin, Kongtongwah, Jippunises, Koleanese, now learning Sipanish. It was because of these language berterabur that gave me the quick acceptance for a work sponsor visa in UK back then lel. You can write, read and speak fluently in ALL 8 languages? Genius weh lidat. |
|
|
May 1 2025, 04:36 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
246 posts Joined: Jun 2020 |
QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ May 1 2025, 07:01 AM) Master in the sense that you can read, write and converse fluently like the natives. Manade geniuses lolz. All study wan.You can write, read and speak fluently in ALL 8 languages? Genius weh lidat. Wont say suparduper fluent but can converse, communicate, and translate meaning through several language. except Chinese / Korean writing I failed miserably, the rest that using ABCDE is all wokey. Weirdly, ngaku Chinese Korean writing tak leh, but Jippunis writing reading ngaku boleh. perhaps can thankiu ISEKAI manga, dragon ball, JRPG punyai help when young? |
|
|
May 1 2025, 04:44 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#40
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
192 posts Joined: Feb 2022 |
|
| Change to: | 0.0200sec
0.40
5 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 19th December 2025 - 11:14 PM |