Tldr quality issue and using russian engines, cheaper to just get from russia

Ada. Pakistan. Argentina?

Argentina Finally Acquires 24 Used F-16 Fighter Jets.
https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/argentin...google_vignette



Pakistan no choice, borrrow money from china to finance purchase. Dono got money to pay or not

This post has been edited by RT8081: Apr 29 2025, 06:06 PM

Pakistan-India full scale war will be the test for China warplanes

India already buying US jets. Should able to take down ccp warplanes like swatting mosquitos

ask jacky chan la

Lol

Belum lagi. Wait later one plane for 10 million usd, then nanti Boeing kecut bola mintak Trump tariff all countries who buy from Chyna.

Everyone in cost sensitive. People will buy from whoever can offer a product which gets the job done at a low price.

This post has been edited by Sihambodoh: Apr 29 2025, 06:10 PM

Notably, if Egypt proceeds with the FA-50 purchase, it would be the second time South Korea would have beaten China in fighter jet exports.

Earlier, the Malaysian government chose the FA-50 over the JF-17 Thunder, a jointly developed aircraft by China and Pakistan.
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/chinas-j-10c-...hter-for-egypt/

FA50 more familiar among ASEAN air forces. It's basically a Lockheed Martin, so a budget US fighter jet. Of course will choose this no brainer.

LOL, but here got some post syiok sendiri video games about Chinese jets taking down F-22s easily.

I think FA-50 jets have USA engine and avonics inside

Deswai

Because need to buy 2.

Probably, need spareparts

You could always go buy fighter plane that has Kill Switch.

Need war as proving ground.

Just like Turkey drone, during Azerbaijan and ukraine war.

This post has been edited by arif85124: Apr 29 2025, 07:17 PM

China won't sell the latest version, the older gen is not worthy to purchase also

If Pakistan cannot pay China for their fighter jets, then they can become another Chinese province in few years.

ccp: no worry. janji items in everyone house 90% made in ccp

U think ccp plane dont have one ?

Already, china using pakistan to make trouble with india. Cucuk quiet

To use USA fighters against other country, you need permission from USA

7 years ago China was not exporting any EVs. Now China is dominating the EVs market. The same thing could happen in the military aircraft market.

J20 does not allow exports. J11/J15/J16 has an agreement with Russia that does not allow exports. Only J10/J31 can be exported. Considering the global political landscape, Europe and the Americas will not use Chinese fighter jets. The only remaining regions are Africa, South Asia, and some parts of the Middle East.

Later if war with China, they can easily use the OFF switch to disable any war machines using their parts.

Have you ever considered that China isn't trying to sell their jets? China generally doesn't warmonger as much as the US does. How many times has China been to war in the last 50 years? Now how many times has the US been at war?

look forword to J10 of pakistan to kick india 's ass.

J10 - sold to pakistan
JF-17 - sold to azerbaijan, myanmar, nigeria

also JF-17 shot down a bharatland mig-21 during the 2019 skirmish

PRC no need ke ? Just asking

This is like comparing 1991 civic with 2010 civic

The JF-17 and MiG-21 are both fighter jets, but they belong to different generations. The JF-17 is a more modern, 4.5 generation fighter, while the MiG-21 is a 3rd generation fighter. The JF-17 utilizes side air intakes and a redesigned fuselage, unlike the MiG-21's nose intake. The JF-17 has been enhanced with advanced sensors and missile technologies, while the MiG-21 is a legacy platform.

Pakistan & Jordan & Egypt are Chinese Jet customer.

plenty of hoo hah in chinese media when argies were considering buying their jets. then they end up buying south korean jets. crickets from china side after that.

countries buying jets want tech transfer lah. first batch made in home country. second batch made in the purchasing country. china won't offer that.

There are su30 and mirage 2000 in the area, but can't shoot down a JF-17 and that's why bharat bought the rafale

china's neighbours will not buy china made jets .they treat china as a potential enemy. do russia and the US transfer tech ?

This post has been edited by issac99289928: Apr 30 2025, 10:08 AM

south korea happy to tech transfer to argies.

I see
Anyway j17 is much lighter than su30 indian version



This post has been edited by RT8081: Apr 30 2025, 10:09 AM

argies ? which country ? Argentina ?

There are not built for sale.

J-20 is like F-22, cannot sell to others. J-35 already got demands from pakistan and egypt.

thats the smaller picture, this is the bigger picture.

CAATSA

Thanks

Got lah, jf17, j10. But the Chinese are not as obsessed as the westerners. Why you want to sell something to kill humans, they rather export other goods. 😅

Pakistan use Shenyang J-11 fighter jets.

Tofu jets.

interesting

Deswai low quality product, only waterfish will buy

If a 1991 Civic been upgraded to have advanced ADAS and ABS etc, it might still beat a non-upgraded 2010 Civic. This might be the reason the older legacy J10 shot down the newer Rafale.

We have read of that being the case with latest American jets. But not read about Chinese jet having similar kill switch

Problem is can civic 1991 allows such upgrade 🤔

If CCP didnt build that, probably a stupid move when former friend becomes foe and use back against china

Technical I see no reason why not, to a degree. Just a matter of cost and whether it is worth it.

You have answered your question bro.

A lot of people still didn't learn the lessons from WW2

Germany produces some of the best war machines especially tanks but American and Soviet Union manufacturing capabilities out manufacture Germany

So what if tiger tanks are better? Americans can use 2 or 3 Sherman's to take down a tiger tanks and they can easily replace them

Look at the cost of Americans and Europeans jets. China's jets cost half and you can buy more and afford to lose more. India now kecut because they lost 1 or 2 Rafale and it's going to be costly to replace them

Hitler lost because he refuse to listen to expert. Had he not invade russia, he would have kowtiam GB easily

It will not be so easy to kowtiam GB lah

They attack GB first but can't break GB defense

They tried to achieve air dominance over GB but failed

They lost Battle of Britain

That is why he change his attention to Soviet Union

GB is an island and a fortress

GB navy was also much more better than Germans

They can last as they are getting supplies from US

It's manufacturing capabilities that decided WW2

For Germany, the inability to replenish their tanks hampered their ambition

US was using 2 or 3 Sherman's to take down German tanks but they can easily replace and repair the Shermans

Stalin moved his weapon manufacturing factories to east and that's why they managed to strike back at Germany

It was the same in the Pacific too. Japan could not replace their carriers and US shipbuilding capabilities at that time was a lot better than Japan and they did not have to deal with constant bombing

Point taken and well elaborated 👍