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TSRT8081
post Apr 29 2025, 06:02 PM, updated 8 months ago

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Tldr quality issue and using russian engines, cheaper to just get from russia
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post Apr 29 2025, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Apr 29 2025, 06:04 PM)
Ada. Pakistan. Argentina?
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Argentina Finally Acquires 24 Used F-16 Fighter Jets.
https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/argentin...google_vignette

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Washington is believed to have exerted various pressures on the Argentine government to opt for the used F-16 jets and not to choose the JF-17 jets offered by China, which come with other  attractives  economic packages.


Pakistan no choice, borrrow money from china to finance purchase. Dono got money to pay or not

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post Apr 29 2025, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(pobox @ Apr 29 2025, 06:06 PM)
Pakistan-India full scale war will be the test for China warplanes
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India already buying US jets. Should able to take down ccp warplanes like swatting mosquitos
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post Apr 29 2025, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(redic @ Apr 29 2025, 06:08 PM)
ask jacky chan la
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Lol
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post Apr 29 2025, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Hobbez @ Apr 29 2025, 06:29 PM)
LOL, but here got some post syiok sendiri video games about Chinese jets taking down F-22s easily.  laugh.gif
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post Apr 29 2025, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Apr 29 2025, 06:43 PM)
Because need to buy 2.
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Probably, need spareparts
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post Apr 29 2025, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 29 2025, 07:14 PM)
You could always go buy fighter plane that has Kill Switch.
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U think ccp plane dont have one ?

QUOTE(Kasawari 2 @ Apr 29 2025, 07:19 PM)
If Pakistan cannot pay China for their fighter jets, then they can become another Chinese province in few years.
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Already, china using pakistan to make trouble with india. Cucuk quiet
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post Apr 30 2025, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 30 2025, 08:44 AM)
To use USA fighters against other country, you need permission from USA
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PRC no need ke ? Just asking
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post Apr 30 2025, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Apr 30 2025, 09:21 AM)
J10 - sold to pakistan
JF-17 - sold to azerbaijan, myanmar, nigeria

also JF-17 shot down a bharatland mig-21 during the 2019 skirmish
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This is like comparing 1991 civic with 2010 civic

The JF-17 and MiG-21 are both fighter jets, but they belong to different generations. The JF-17 is a more modern, 4.5 generation fighter, while the MiG-21 is a 3rd generation fighter. The JF-17 utilizes side air intakes and a redesigned fuselage, unlike the MiG-21's nose intake. The JF-17 has been enhanced with advanced sensors and missile technologies, while the MiG-21 is a legacy platform.
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post Apr 30 2025, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Apr 30 2025, 10:07 AM)
There are su30 and mirage 2000 in the area, but can't shoot down a JF-17 and that's why bharat bought the rafale
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I see
Anyway j17 is much lighter than su30 indian version

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post Apr 30 2025, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 30 2025, 11:44 AM)
thats the smaller picture, this is the bigger picture.

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post Apr 30 2025, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Apr 30 2025, 02:21 PM)


interesting
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Deswai low quality product, only waterfish will buy
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post May 9 2025, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ May 9 2025, 09:21 AM)
If a 1991 Civic been upgraded to have advanced ADAS and ABS etc, it might still beat a non-upgraded 2010 Civic. This might be the reason the older legacy J10 shot down the newer Rafale.
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Problem is can civic 1991 allows such upgrade 🤔
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post May 9 2025, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ May 9 2025, 09:22 AM)
We have read of that being the case with latest American jets. But not read about Chinese jet having similar kill switch
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If CCP didnt build that, probably a stupid move when former friend becomes foe and use back against china
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post May 9 2025, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ May 9 2025, 09:26 AM)
Technical I see no reason why not, to a degree. Just a matter of cost and whether it is worth it.
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You have answered your question bro.
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post May 9 2025, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 9 2025, 09:34 AM)
A lot of people still didn't learn the lessons from WW2

Germany produces some of the best war machines especially tanks but American and Soviet Union manufacturing capabilities out manufacture Germany

So what if tiger tanks are better? Americans can use 2 or 3 Sherman's to take down a tiger tanks and they can easily replace them

Look at the cost of Americans and Europeans jets. China's jets cost half and you can buy more and afford to lose more. India now kecut because they lost 1 or 2 Rafale and it's going to be costly to replace them
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Hitler lost because he refuse to listen to expert. Had he not invade russia, he would have kowtiam GB easily
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post May 9 2025, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ May 9 2025, 10:07 AM)
It will not be so easy to kowtiam GB lah

They attack GB first but can't break GB defense

They tried to achieve air dominance over GB but failed

They lost Battle of Britain

That is why he change his attention to Soviet Union

GB is an island and a fortress

GB navy was also much more better than Germans

They can last as they are getting supplies from US

It's manufacturing capabilities that decided WW2

For Germany, the inability to replenish their tanks hampered their ambition

US was using 2 or 3 Sherman's to take down German tanks but they can easily replace and repair the Shermans

Stalin moved his weapon manufacturing factories to east and that's why they managed to strike back at Germany

It was the same in the Pacific too. Japan could not replace their carriers and US shipbuilding capabilities at that time was a lot better than Japan and they did not have to deal with constant bombing
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Point taken and well elaborated 👍

 

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