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TSRT8081
post Apr 29 2025, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 29 2025, 07:14 PM)
You could always go buy fighter plane that has Kill Switch.
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U think ccp plane dont have one ?

QUOTE(Kasawari 2 @ Apr 29 2025, 07:19 PM)
If Pakistan cannot pay China for their fighter jets, then they can become another Chinese province in few years.
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Already, china using pakistan to make trouble with india. Cucuk quiet
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post Apr 30 2025, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 29 2025, 12:27 PM)
U think ccp plane dont have one ?
Already, china using pakistan to make trouble with india. Cucuk quiet
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To use USA fighters against other country, you need permission from USA

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post Apr 30 2025, 08:47 AM

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7 years ago China was not exporting any EVs. Now China is dominating the EVs market. The same thing could happen in the military aircraft market.
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post Apr 30 2025, 08:48 AM

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J20 does not allow exports. J11/J15/J16 has an agreement with Russia that does not allow exports. Only J10/J31 can be exported. Considering the global political landscape, Europe and the Americas will not use Chinese fighter jets. The only remaining regions are Africa, South Asia, and some parts of the Middle East.
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post Apr 30 2025, 08:50 AM

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Later if war with China, they can easily use the OFF switch to disable any war machines using their parts.
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post Apr 30 2025, 08:50 AM

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Have you ever considered that China isn't trying to sell their jets? China generally doesn't warmonger as much as the US does. How many times has China been to war in the last 50 years? Now how many times has the US been at war?
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post Apr 30 2025, 08:56 AM

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look forword to J10 of pakistan to kick india 's ass.
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post Apr 30 2025, 09:21 AM

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J10 - sold to pakistan
JF-17 - sold to azerbaijan, myanmar, nigeria

also JF-17 shot down a bharatland mig-21 during the 2019 skirmish


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QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 30 2025, 08:44 AM)
To use USA fighters against other country, you need permission from USA
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PRC no need ke ? Just asking
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post Apr 30 2025, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Apr 30 2025, 09:21 AM)
J10 - sold to pakistan
JF-17 - sold to azerbaijan, myanmar, nigeria

also JF-17 shot down a bharatland mig-21 during the 2019 skirmish
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This is like comparing 1991 civic with 2010 civic

The JF-17 and MiG-21 are both fighter jets, but they belong to different generations. The JF-17 is a more modern, 4.5 generation fighter, while the MiG-21 is a 3rd generation fighter. The JF-17 utilizes side air intakes and a redesigned fuselage, unlike the MiG-21's nose intake. The JF-17 has been enhanced with advanced sensors and missile technologies, while the MiG-21 is a legacy platform.
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Pakistan & Jordan & Egypt are Chinese Jet customer.
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post Apr 30 2025, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Apr 30 2025, 08:50 AM)
Have you ever considered that China isn't trying to sell their jets? China generally doesn't warmonger as much as the US does. How many times has China been to war in the last 50 years? Now how many times has the US been at war?
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plenty of hoo hah in chinese media when argies were considering buying their jets. then they end up buying south korean jets. crickets from china side after that.

countries buying jets want tech transfer lah. first batch made in home country. second batch made in the purchasing country. china won't offer that.
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post Apr 30 2025, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 30 2025, 09:37 AM)
This is like comparing 1991 civic with 2010 civic

The JF-17 and MiG-21 are both fighter jets, but they belong to different generations. The JF-17 is a more modern, 4.5 generation fighter, while the MiG-21 is a 3rd generation fighter. The JF-17 utilizes side air intakes and a redesigned fuselage, unlike the MiG-21's nose intake. The JF-17 has been enhanced with advanced sensors and missile technologies, while the MiG-21 is a legacy platform.
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There are su30 and mirage 2000 in the area, but can't shoot down a JF-17 and that's why bharat bought the rafale
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Apr 30 2025, 09:51 AM)
plenty of hoo hah in chinese media when argies were considering buying their jets. then they end up buying south korean jets. crickets from china side after that.

countries buying jets want tech transfer lah. first batch made in home country. second batch made in the purchasing country. china won't offer that.
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china's neighbours will not buy china made jets .they treat china as a potential enemy. do russia and the US transfer tech ?

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QUOTE(issac99289928 @ Apr 30 2025, 10:07 AM)
china's neighbours will not buy china made jets .they treat china as potential enemies. do russia and the US transfer tech  ?
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south korea happy to tech transfer to argies.
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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Apr 30 2025, 10:07 AM)
There are su30 and mirage 2000 in the area, but can't shoot down a JF-17 and that's why bharat bought the rafale
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I see
Anyway j17 is much lighter than su30 indian version

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post Apr 30 2025, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(spursfan @ Apr 30 2025, 10:09 AM)
south korea happy to tech transfer to argies.
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argies ? which country ? Argentina ?

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There are not built for sale.
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post Apr 30 2025, 11:32 AM

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J-20 is like F-22, cannot sell to others. J-35 already got demands from pakistan and egypt.
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Apr 29 2025, 06:02 PM)


Tldr quality issue and using russian engines, cheaper to just get from russia
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thats the smaller picture, this is the bigger picture.

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