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 Atok ni memang selective shit stirrer, Kan Indon Dan Thai pun serumpun juga

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DarkNite
post Apr 29 2025, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Apr 29 2025, 10:43 AM)
Thank you for acknowledging Borneo don’t belong to Malay.

So stop shipping your earth prince attitude to the east!
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Too late.
Already conquer with Project IC, no?
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post Apr 29 2025, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(fongsk @ Apr 29 2025, 06:06 PM)
Of course he got enemies.  Not easy to be Mesian saviour, you know.  ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️
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Lol. Mca butthurt also.

Used to be mca savior now turned.
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post Apr 29 2025, 07:27 PM

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All the lands here technically belong to the government. What is he talking about?
A.B.D.
post Apr 29 2025, 07:28 PM

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The land is still Malaysia and will forever be. This guy on the other hand managed to tunggang melayu for a century and cause unnecessary panic which doesn’t help anyone but his own agenda.
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post Apr 29 2025, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Nihonmaru @ Apr 29 2025, 07:21 PM)
Lol. Mca butthurt also.

Used to be mca savior now turned.
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Really meh? I tot he is our saviour in 2017 to save us from kleptocracy, nepotism, corruption etc etc. no a? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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post Apr 29 2025, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(A.B.D. @ Apr 29 2025, 07:28 PM)
The land is still Malaysia and will forever be. This guy on the other hand managed to tunggang melayu for a century and cause unnecessary panic which doesn’t help anyone but his own agenda.
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What’s his agenda a? Save Mesia a? 😎
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post Apr 29 2025, 08:12 PM

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First Malay culture is Sriwijaya near Palembang, Sumatra

1. Austronesian Foundations (c. 3000–1500 BCE)
Genetic and Linguistic Roots: Austronesian-speaking populations migrated from Taiwan/the Philippines to the Malay Archipelago around 3000 BCE, bringing languages and cultural practices that form the foundational layer of Malay identity.

Proto-Malay Groups: These early Austronesian settlers (e.g., Orang Asli tribes) laid the groundwork for later cultural synthesis but lacked the unified "Malay" identity seen today.

2. Srivijaya and Early Statehood (7th–13th centuries CE)
The Srivijaya Empire, a maritime power based in Sumatra, promoted Malay language and trade networks, fostering a proto-Malay identity centered on shared language and commercial practices.

This period saw the spread of Hinduism/Buddhism and early political structures, but identity remained fluid and regionally fragmented.

3. Melaka Sultanate and Ethnogenesis (15th century)
The Melaka Sultanate (1402–1511) marked the pivotal divergence point. It institutionalized the three pillars of Malayness:

Islam (adopted as the state religion in the 15th century).

Malay language (standardized as Bahasa Melayu).

Monarchical tradition (via the daulat concept of royal sovereignty).

Post-Melaka's fall (1511), these markers became central to diasporic Malay communities, distinguishing them from non-Muslim Austronesian groups.
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post Apr 29 2025, 08:17 PM

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Examples of Old Malay from Sriwijaya era compared with modern malay

Kedukan Bukit Inscription (683 CE)
Transliteration (Old Malay):

“svasti śakawarsatita 605 ekadasi śuklapaksa wulan waiśakha dapunta hiyang naik di samudra…”

Literal translation:

“In the Saka year 605, on the 11th day of the bright half of the month of Vaisakha, Dapunta Hyang went on a sea voyage…”

Modern Malay Equivalent:
“Pada tahun Saka 605, hari kesebelas bulan cerah di bulan Waisakha, Dapunta Hyang berangkat ke laut…”
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post Apr 29 2025, 08:22 PM

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See map of 1895, Thailand border until Penang and Perak, and Pahang.
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post Apr 29 2025, 08:27 PM

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Malays lost Singapore to incompetent idiots la

Lel

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post Apr 29 2025, 08:29 PM

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This kinda posts is considered hate speech towards the minorities

God will send him to hell very soon
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post Apr 29 2025, 08:49 PM

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dont laugh..
this sohai was 2 times PM in mesia.
i am one of the sohai to vote him as pm.
such a shame to me.
leopard never changes its spot.
during ge times i was convinced this old fuck had changed his view to make malaysia great againt.
my parents said this sohai racist as fuck. i die die dont believe.

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post Apr 29 2025, 08:55 PM

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The pariah mamak dog is the most shameless fool .
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post Apr 29 2025, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Izzet @ Apr 29 2025, 08:29 AM)
MALAYSIAN LAND

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The statement you shared, attributed to Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad and dated **29 April 2025**, reflects **strong political rhetoric and nationalist sentiment**, but several points require clarification or correction for historical and factual accuracy. Here's a breakdown:

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### 1–3. **Historical claim about the Malay Peninsula**
- **True in general context**: The Malay Peninsula has long been inhabited and explored by ethnic Malays. Historically, the region was recognized as part of the broader "Malay World" (*Alam Melayu*), which included parts of what is now Malaysia, Indonesia, southern Thailand, and the Philippines.
- The reference to **Segenting Kra (Kra Isthmus)** and **Pulau Riau** reflects a broader definition of "Tanah Melayu" used in nationalist discourse, not formal political boundaries.

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### 4. **“Now Peninsular Malaysia has decreased its area”**
- **Not accurate**: The borders of **Peninsular Malaysia** were not officially "decreased." The modern borders were established through colonial treaties and post-independence agreements. While certain regions with historical Malay populations (like Pattani or Riau) are outside Malaysia, they were never officially part of the **Federation of Malaya** or **Malaysia**.

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### 5. **Loss of Pattani, Yala, Satun (Setoi), and Songkhla (Singgora) to Thailand**
- **Partially accurate**: These were part of the **Pattani Sultanate**, historically Malay Muslim regions. They were annexed by **Siam (Thailand)** over centuries, particularly solidified through the **Anglo-Siamese Treaty of 1909**, brokered by the British. So, they weren't "lost" by Malaysia, but rather **not included** in British Malaya.

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### 6. **Loss of Riau Islands to Indonesia**
- **Not accurate in terms of Malaysian sovereignty**: The **Riau Archipelago** was part of the **Johor-Riau Sultanate**, which split in the 19th century. The islands became part of the **Dutch East Indies**, later Indonesia. Malaysia never officially controlled these islands.

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### 7. **Singapore “lost” to Chinese immigrants**
- **Highly controversial**: Singapore was part of Malaysia from 1963–1965. It was **separated by mutual agreement** due to political and racial tensions. While Chinese Malaysians were the majority population, the statement implies a **racial blame** that is simplistic and divisive.

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### 8–9. **Land “sold” by Malays**
- **Exaggerated and lacks nuance**: There is concern about land ownership shifts, especially urban real estate being sold to corporations or foreign buyers. However, land ownership is governed by **state laws**, and Malays benefit from policies like **Malay Reserved Land** and **Bumiputera quotas**. Saying "half has been sold" is **not supported by concrete data**.

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### 10–11. **“Malays will live at the edge of the forest” / “no longer own land”**
- **Emotive and speculative**: This is **political rhetoric** rather than a fact. While urban land ownership patterns are shifting, the government maintains policies to protect Bumiputera interests.

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### 12. **“What is the meaning of independence…”**
- **Political opinion**: This rhetorical question is meant to provoke thought on **economic sovereignty vs. political sovereignty**. It reflects Dr. Mahathir's long-standing concerns about **foreign influence and wealth distribution**, but it's not a statement of legal fact.

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### Conclusion:
This message is **not a neutral historical record**, but a **politically charged opinion piece** likely aimed at stirring ethnic Malay nationalism. Some historical references are valid, but others are **oversimplified or distorted**. Always approach such statements with **critical thinking and fact-checking**.

Would you like a neutral, fact-based timeline of territorial changes involving Malaysia?
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post Apr 29 2025, 09:06 PM

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ok, moving forward pls claim back the sovereign on Singapore just like CCP does to Taiwan ya
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post May 5 2025, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Apr 29 2025, 10:34 AM)
such a stupid  statement, orang asli lost its land to malay diam diam sahaja.
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post May 5 2025, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Apr 29 2025, 10:47 AM)
should say thai lost for states to british instead LOL, if no sign treaty, thai still own that 4 northen state LOL

he should be grateful that british brought that 4 state to malay LOL
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post May 5 2025, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(pej425 @ Apr 29 2025, 11:55 AM)
MALAYSIAN ORANG ASLI LAND

1. Orang asli explore the Peninsula.

2. The world recognizes the Orang asli

3.Orang asli has been losing their land for years now

Atuk you forgot about these people or just dont care?
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Luckily there's Siti Kassim who is defending the Orang Asli.






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post May 5 2025, 07:09 PM

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So much BS cerita lagenda.

Tipu PuAS supporter and rempit OK la.

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