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 Don't your kid know how to walk home or take bus?, Msian frustrated by school traffic jams

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cuddlybubblyteddy
post Apr 25 2025, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 25 2025, 10:13 AM)
You equivalent Malaysian bus and MRT to Singapore and Japan? LOL!

If like that you might as well say why Malaysians drive to work and not take bus and MRT?

As for Vietnam, do they have a huge population of foreigners like Bangla and Indon in our country?

It is not Malaysia parents too entitled. Its our transport system is built for cars and the environment today is not 10/20/30 years ago.
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Yes, why Malaysian drive to work? Maruah? Show off?

Now with MRT, LRT, KTM available still want to drive into city Center to work.

18 years ago, even with just LRT and KTM, I just drove to the nearest LRT or KTM , then took that to work.

People complain public transport at Malaysia is sucks, it was, still are but doesn’t mean it’s not working.



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post Apr 25 2025, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Apr 25 2025, 12:48 AM)
Nope, for MBSKL, VI, SRJK Jln Davidson & Confucian - whenever Confucian holiday - traffic smooth2. But kudos to Confucian, when they opened the access next to Angkasa Hotel that helped much but then PNB 118 came up, but still much better - last time kena jam 30 mins, now max 10 mins only - same time comparison.

The MRT/LRT station also helped. With the access next to Angkasa, more students use the LRT d, further reducing traffic.

Kuan Cheng  cry.gif  vmad.gif  cry.gif  bangwall.gif  mad.gif  ranting.gif  rclxub.gif  whenever passby there around 2pm-3pm sure die. Morning not as bad as afternoon.
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You have a screwed sense of smooth traffic. It may not affect much within the vicinity of those schools you mentioned but overall it still contributes to heavier traffic. And wait till PNB118 is fully open.

Kuen Cheng gotta move. Period. And whatever happened to being schooled near where you live? I know parents just submit some fake address near the school they want their child to go for admission.
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post Apr 25 2025, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Apr 25 2025, 10:23 AM)
Yes, why Malaysian drive to work? Maruah? Show off?

Now with MRT, LRT, KTM available still want to drive into city Center to work.

18 years ago, even with just LRT and KTM, I just drove to the nearest LRT or KTM , then took that to work.

People complain public transport at Malaysia is sucks, it was, still are but doesn’t mean it’s not working.
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What do you think will happen if everyone take LRT, MRT, etc.?

Can our public transport take in all the additional passengers?

Today, a lot of our public transport is already to the max and you want more people take public transport

Now you want all school kids to take public transport too? You think all schools are built near LRT, MRT stations?

Even though I take public transport, I also won't make stupid statement like everyone should take public transport

Not everyone stays in area where there are accessable public transport

For some to drive to public transport and take public transport, the time taken is longer than driving directly to work

The reality is Klang Valley was planned for driving since the 80s

You can blame Tun M for that but its something we can't turn back

Our public transport is to complement driving and not replace driving

Don't even compare our public transport to HK, Japan or Singapore

Our planning for development in Klang Valley was never consistent and it is why it is now impossible to emulate them

That is a fact that people like you don't understand

Nobody like to be jam but this a reality we must face
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post Apr 25 2025, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Apr 25 2025, 10:29 AM)
You have a screwed sense of smooth traffic. It may not affect much within the vicinity of those schools you mentioned but overall it still contributes to heavier traffic. And wait till PNB118 is fully open.

Kuen Cheng gotta move. Period. And whatever happened to being schooled near where you live? I know parents just submit some fake address near the school they want their child to go for admission.
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You think being schooled near the school means walking distance today?

Let me just give an example. Children from Puchong or Dengkil allocated schools in Cyberjaya.

You expect the kids to walk/bicycle from Puchong or Dengkil to Cyberjaya?

You are not a parent yet, right?
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post Apr 25 2025, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Apr 25 2025, 09:23 AM)
Yes, why Malaysian drive to work? Maruah? Show off?

Now with MRT, LRT, KTM available still want to drive into city Center to work.

18 years ago, even with just LRT and KTM, I just drove to the nearest LRT or KTM , then took that to work.

People complain public transport at Malaysia is sucks, it was, still are but doesn’t mean it’s not working.
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Malaysians are too proud of their vehicles to take public transport, nuff said whistling.gif
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post Apr 25 2025, 09:39 AM

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Walking home is getting more and more challenging. last time one have to be enticed with shops selling junk food along the way.

Now its vape shop .
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post Apr 25 2025, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 25 2025, 10:32 AM)
What do you think will happen if everyone take LRT, MRT, etc.?

Can our public transport take in all the additional passengers?

Today, a lot of our public transport is already to the max and you want more people take public transport

Now you want all school kids to take public transport too? You think all schools are built near LRT, MRT stations?

Even though I take public transport, I also won't make stupid statement like everyone should take public transport

Not everyone stays in area where there are accessable public transport

For some to drive to public transport and take public transport, the time taken is longer than driving directly to work

The reality is Klang Valley was planned for driving since the 80s

You can blame Tun M for that but its something we can't turn back

Our public transport is to complement driving and not replace driving

Don't even compare our public transport to HK, Japan or Singapore

Our planning for development in Klang Valley was never consistent and it is why it is now impossible to emulate them

That is a fact that people like you don't understand

Nobody like to be jam but this a reality we must face
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Do you think school in Singapore and Japan all build next to LRT and MRT?

Kids took MRT&LRT, then change bus and drop off at nearby bus stop of the school,

Like I say, Malaysia people is entitled, always find excuses that this can’t work, that don’t work.

The fact that it’s so easy to get a car in Malaysia, cheaper loan, makes everyone entitled that must get a car.

Vietnam - imported car used to have 300% tax, now is about 100% - thus not many car on the car, mostly is motorbike

It’s the policy of country that will change the course of direction of development, at Mahathir era, the pride of nationalism and national car, make a cheap car for everyone, resulted this. Thus public transport is not fully been build across the country


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post Apr 25 2025, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(fanlou @ Apr 25 2025, 10:35 AM)
Malaysians are too proud of their vehicles to take public transport, nuff said  whistling.gif
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Let me guess, you take public transport, right?

Imagine if 50% of all the people who are driving today take public transport

That will mean public transport will have to accomodate 50% more people

Some people here say school kids also take public transport

You sure you still can get in your MRT, LRT, Komuter, etc with additional 50% people and school kids?

Our public transport was not built to be the major source of transportation

Since the 80s, the whole of Klang Valley was planned for driving

You cannot undo what was built for decades as Klang Valley development was not properly planned like Singapore, HK or Japan


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post Apr 25 2025, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Apr 25 2025, 10:39 AM)
Walking home is getting more and more challenging. last time one have to be enticed with shops selling junk food along the way.

Now its vape shop  .
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I thought Vape shop is illegal in Malaysia ?
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post Apr 25 2025, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Apr 25 2025, 10:40 AM)
Do you think school in Singapore and Japan all build next to LRT and MRT?

Kids took MRT&LRT, then change bus and drop off at nearby bus stop of the school,

Like I say, Malaysia people is entitled, always find excuses that this can’t work, that don’t work.

The fact that it’s so easy to get a car in Malaysia, cheaper loan, makes everyone entitled that must get a car.

Vietnam - imported car used to have 300% tax, now is about 100% - thus not many car on the car, mostly is motorbike

It’s the policy of country that will change the course of direction of development, at Mahathir era, the pride of nationalism and national car, make a cheap car for everyone, resulted this. Thus public transport is not fully been build across the country
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Like I repeatedly say before, do you think our current LRT, MRT, etc. can take in all the additional people who are driving and school kids?

You go see how pack is our LRT, MRT, etc during peak hours lah

It is just slightly better than Tokyo and HK only lah

You go and see where a lot of schools are built today lah

Most are not near any public transport at all

I bet you're not a parent, right?


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post Apr 25 2025, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 25 2025, 10:44 AM)
Like I repeatedly say before, do you think our current LRT, MRT, etc. can take in all the additional people who are driving and school kids?

You go see how pack is our LRT, MRT, etc during peak hours lah

It is just slightly better than Tokyo and HK only lah

You go and see where a lot of schools are built today lah

Most are not near any public transport at all

I bet you're not a parent, right?
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I had my fair share of getting sandwiches in peak hour, que with everyone and sometimes got boobs squeeze from behind, man boob, woman boob ect

Like I say, as long the mentality in Malaysia change, getting and building the public transport, roll it out in phases, at residential , school, the route that can connect with public school, university.

People will take public transport.

P/s: I have 2 toddlers, I send my eldest to school by motorbike. 🏍️

And I’m not living in Malaysia

I did plan to come back to Malaysia when my kid going to primary school.


This post has been edited by cuddlybubblyteddy: Apr 25 2025, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Apr 25 2025, 10:49 AM)
I had my fair share of getting sandwiches in peak hour, que with everyone and sometimes got boobs squeeze from behind, man boob, woman boob ect

Like I say, as long the mentality in Malaysia change, getting and building the public transport, roll it out in phases, at residential , school, the route that can connect with public school, university.

People will take public transport.

P/s: I have 2 toddlers, I send my eldest to school by motorbike. 🏍️

And I’m not living in Malaysia
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Like I say before, our LRT, MRT, etc. are already very packed and cannot take in more people

See, you send your eldest to school by motorbike

Why not send your kid to school using public transport?

Why not ask your kid to go to school himself?

You not living in Malaysia. You don't know what is like today in Klang Valley

When you come back to Malaysia and send your kids to school, then you'll know why parents send their kids to schools

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 25 2025, 09:41 AM)
Let me guess, you take public transport, right?

Imagine if 50% of all the people who are driving today take public transport

That will mean public transport will have to accomodate 50% more people

Some people here say school kids also take public transport

You sure you still can get in your MRT, LRT, Komuter, etc with additional 50% people and school kids?

Our public transport was not built to be the major source of transportation

Since the 80s, the whole of Klang Valley was planned for driving

You cannot undo what was built for decades as Klang Valley development was not properly planned like Singapore, HK or Japan
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Nope, i drove fetching children to school and for working purposes. I've been driving for 30 years now since my
younger days doing a sales job. Nowadays i'd much prefer public transport than facing all the traffic jams
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QUOTE(fanlou @ Apr 25 2025, 10:57 AM)
Nope, i drove fetching children to school and for working purposes. I've been driving for 30 years now since my
younger days doing a sales job. Nowadays i'd much prefer public transport than facing all the traffic jams
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See, you also drive your children to school

That is a sad reality everyone in Klang Valley face

Of course, everyone would prefer public transport if they can

But for some people taking public transport is just not feasible

If the time needed is equivalent, why take public transport packed with people?
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 25 2025, 10:53 AM)
Like I say before, our LRT, MRT, etc. are already very packed and cannot take in more people

See, you send your eldest to school by motorbike

Why not send your kid to school using public transport?

Why not ask your kid to go to school himself?

You not living in Malaysia. You don't know what is like today in Klang Valley

When you come back to Malaysia and send your kids to school, then you'll know why parents send their kids to schools
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yea . i pick up my kids from schools often and the school is smack right in the middle of residental area. If I can snap my gauntlet and make all the cars dissapear and tell my kids to walk home... they wont make it pass 200m due to many illegal riders aka secondary school students zooming pass with little concern for other road users.

Even those licensed (parents) riders also showed little concern with kids safely outside the schools where slowing down is a must.

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my son school one bloody alphard confirm double park right in front of school 1 hour before school finish everyday. no matter how many empty space also won't park in, must double park because want to leave early don't want get stuck by double parker. confirm same space right in front of entrance because come 1 hour early hog that space
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Apr 25 2025, 11:16 AM)
yea . i pick up my kids from schools often and the school is smack right in the middle of residental area.    If I can snap my gauntlet and make all the cars dissapear and tell my kids to walk home... they wont make it pass 200m due to many illegal riders aka secondary school students zooming pass with little concern for other road users.

Even those licensed (parents) riders also showed little concern with kids safely outside the schools where slowling down is a must.
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Exactly

The environment today are not like 10/20/30 years ago

Back then walking/cycling home is possible

Today, its way to dangerous
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Apr 25 2025, 10:10 AM)
See, you also drive your children to school

That is a sad reality everyone in Klang Valley face

Of course, everyone would prefer public transport if they can

But for some people taking public transport is just not feasible

If the time needed is equivalent, why take public transport packed with people?
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Not anymore as of the start of this year my final secondary school going daughter started going to school on
LRT with her schoolmate that coincidentally lives nearby my taman & i'm proud of that so long as she be more
alert on the journey to & fro school. I try to give them more independence

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no personal benefit to busses = gomen dont support

try and count how many busses you see during commute these days compared to 10-15 years ago


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i don't think distance is the problem the safety is the utmost priority. today world is unlike yester world.
those days kids can walk 4-5km without worry. those have parent to fetch is a rare spectacle but nowadays is a norm. even if we are late home parent only get angry where have we been to play but now when kids are late parent start to worry what happen to them.

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