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post Apr 17 2025, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Apr 17 2025, 08:08 AM)
How to effectively use the car brake and low gear?
I want to minimize the tayar wear out also
sometimes I accelerate a little bit but my brake mcm x strong sgt
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Use only original brake pad, never the chapalang
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post Apr 17 2025, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Apr 17 2025, 07:05 PM)
I reckon is because younger people these days only drive auto cars all their life, so never had to select their own gears and know the cause and effect.

Hopefully this thread will be informational to many cheers.gif
Regen will be limited and you’ll have to use the brake pedal instead.
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So no alternative if the regular brake fails in ev
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post Apr 17 2025, 08:33 PM

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depends on car I guess, but overall engine braking is your best bet
like my car, the engine braking speed is in 20km/h block, ie, I let go of gas at 15km/h, it'll max go to 20km/h and maintain there
I usually do 40 and let it there


QUOTE(mini orchard @ Apr 17 2025, 09:05 AM)
Is there a car make that is dangerous to drive to GH ? 😲
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post Apr 17 2025, 08:54 PM

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if my car has the L / 2/ D-3 kind then how?
does the L mean it will stay at first gear even if I start to pick up speed and the 2 means at max it will go up to 2nd gear and stay there?
or should I just stick it to D and hope for the best
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post Apr 17 2025, 09:29 PM

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I think it can be very confusing to explain the explicit auto gear selection in auto cars. Manufacturers label them differently between different brands and models. Some cars with different driving modes (for eg: Sport mode) will also downshift or hold gears when detecting that you're driving downhill. Better to explain it in manual gearbox perspective.

Basically the key is to use engine braking while going down hill, you can do that by engaging low gears all the way or you can actively change it also if you feel like it. You have to understand your own car gear selector on how to engage low gears. Would suggest you to drive in all gear modes and count the number of gears it can shift up to. Eg: "O/D" only shift max until 3rd gear, "L" shift max until 2nd gear, etc.. these can vary a bit by brands and models so best is to try and map these selection to the actual gears.

I do this for all the cars I've owned and change gears "manually" after understanding the actual gear to the labelled gear. Very useful for over taking on highway as well. And pretty fun if you don't mind the risk of your gearbox blowing.. I'm the kind who tend to red line before upshifting.

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post Apr 17 2025, 10:59 PM

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EV turun genting relax jerr.. no need fully use engine beaking or brake pad...
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post Apr 18 2025, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(ScooterBoi @ Apr 17 2025, 09:39 AM)
You will need to read the car manual to find out how and when to engage and maintain the lower gears.
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I think I'm the weird one out for reading the whole manual when I got my first new car laugh.gif Having a car enthusiast brother is one thing, but I also learned a fair bit from the book. In fact, it advises you to run on low gear on slopes too. Here are more things I remember:
- when side parked at a steep slope, you should turn your wheels such that if your brake fails or loosens up, you only roll into the kerb away from traffic and not all the way down like a bowling pin. For example:
Head facing downhill + car parked on the left = turn left / twist your steering wheel anticlockwise
Head facing uphill + car parked on the left = turn right / twist your steering wheel clockwise
- you have X litre reserve fuel tank even when your fuel indicator goes 0. If you calculate your mileage, you will know how much leeway you have before you refuel. Note: I learned my car doesn't calculate its mileage accurately by manually tracking my fuel on spreadsheet lol, that's one thing the manual didn't tell me but it is still very, very conservative: it said that for 5 litres of reserve, I could still run like 20-30km, which is way way way lenient for my mileage.
- it is normal for the airbag seat to always light up and then go off after a few seconds
- when your key fob is low/out of battery, you can still try your luck by sticking to the driver car door and the push start button. Worst case, there's a spare key you can use to pry open and expect alarm, but note that once the cover is pried open, you must go to service centre to reattach it. I've had a low-battery crisis once but didn't have to resort to key, so I don't remember the steps in car anymore tongue.gif
- recommended tyre pressure is on the sides of your door.
- you can configure to un/lock just the driver door instead of all doors (I forgot how).
- you can open boot of a locked car by just having the key fob with you.
- there are list of functionalities for all the buttons, twists and turns of the steering wheel stalks and dashboard.
- it explains when your car auto-locks e.g. when you drive above X km/h, when you unlock and do not open the door in X seconds...
- it tells you when you need to press the gear button when changing from/to a gear. For example, you can just push up/down to switch N/D, but you must press the button to switch into R and P, and when switching out of P.
- hill hold assist only works if you stay in D. Once you come to full stop on a slope when in D, you can release the brake and it'll stay braked.

Finally a disclaimer: the car features I listed above may not apply to you ya, you should RTFM to understand your own biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2025, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(zuozi @ Apr 17 2025, 02:05 PM)
Tak kisah auto or manual transmission just give your self a distance dengan kereta di hadapan like 3 cars or more

Anything within 60km/h is acceptable with braking and release technique without need doing the low gear things

Once at 30km/h release acceleration and let it role with D will do too when almost reach 60km/h brake slowly until reach 30km/h and let it rolling again

Imagine if u in downslope traffic jam gear no longer can help you because you literally also braking all the way down more than using transmission low gear at the end your brake also over heat

If no traffic jam within 60kmh slow to 30km/h and let it rolling with D it's always work for me.
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Have you tried genting downhill? Or after menora tunnel? It's very hard to maintain within the speed limit you mention using 'D' unless you keep braking, which is not a good practice and a bad advice for drivers who don't know what they are doing

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post Apr 19 2025, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 18 2025, 01:09 AM)
Have you tried genting downhill? Or after menora tunnel? It's very hard to maintain within the speed limit you mention using 'D' unless you keep braking, which is not a good practice and a bad advice for drivers who don't know what they are doing
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If driver no idea what they're doing they're not suppose to drive .
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post Apr 19 2025, 10:38 PM

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Last time I drove X70 up the hill, don't even need to put low gear. Turbo settle all the way.

But downhill, need to put low gear.
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post Apr 20 2025, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(zuozi @ Apr 19 2025, 12:40 PM)
If driver no idea what they're doing they're not suppose to drive .
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You just described many Malaysian drivers on the road laugh.gif
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Apr 19 2025, 10:38 PM)
Last time I drove X70 up the hill, don't even need to put low gear. Turbo settle all the way.

But downhill, need to put low gear.
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I tried the OD/off light on
It is a massive difference compared to just D all the way downslope
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QUOTE(jeniferlim @ Apr 17 2025, 08:46 AM)
For Auto car, is it still maintain at D ? Or need to shift to lower gear 2 or 1 ?

I try at D, sometimes at steeper slope, the RPM shot up...
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Go up use 2.
Go down use 1.
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post Apr 20 2025, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 18 2025, 01:09 AM)
Have you tried genting downhill? Or after menora tunnel? It's very hard to maintain within the speed limit you mention using 'D' unless you keep braking, which is not a good practice and a bad advice for drivers who don't know what they are doing
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I think what most people did was brake for far too long very lightly instead of braking harder and releasing the brakes every now and then to cool it down. Another problem is they panic when the brakes goes soft which isnt a problem really unless they did what I said earlier. I just cant see why they cant navigate these corner at 40-50kmh instead or having to slow down to 20-30kmh everytime.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 20 2025, 07:17 PM)
I think what most people did was brake for far too long very lightly instead of braking harder and releasing the brakes every now and then to cool it down. Another problem is they panic when the brakes goes soft which isnt a problem really unless they did what I said earlier. I just cant see why they cant navigate these corner at 40-50kmh instead or having to slow down to 20-30kmh everytime.
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that's why i said to suggest people to use brakes all the way downslope instead of relying on low gear / engine braking is a bad advice

majority of drivers don't know what they are doing with the brakes since this is not taught in driving school (as with many other defensive driving techniques)
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post Apr 21 2025, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Apr 20 2025, 11:18 AM)
I tried the OD/off light on
It is a massive difference compared to just D all the way downslope
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what is OD ?
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post Apr 21 2025, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Apr 21 2025, 08:16 AM)
what is OD ?
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Overdrive.

When your output rpm is lower than your input rpm - ie gear ratio less than 1:1.

Usually means the tallest gear available in the gearbox.

OD off means the car doesn’t select the tallest gear.
For example if 4AT, it just uses the first 3 gears.

This post has been edited by Chinoz: Apr 21 2025, 08:35 AM
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post Apr 21 2025, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Chinoz @ Apr 21 2025, 08:34 AM)
Overdrive.

When your output rpm is lower than your input rpm - ie gear ratio less than 1:1.

Usually means the tallest gear available in the gearbox.

OD off means the car doesn’t select the tallest gear.
For example if 4AT, it just uses the first 3 gears.
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post Apr 21 2025, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(-mystery- @ Apr 17 2025, 08:08 AM)
How to effectively use the car brake and low gear?
I want to minimize the tayar wear out also
sometimes I accelerate a little bit but my brake mcm x strong sgt
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Using H city. just switch to S gear . Don't keep braking . Just release the accelerator, braking and lower your speed gradually . keep to left lane. I just press brake intermittently , and let engine braking do the work. Once the RPM whine too much (road is flat again, switch back to D) .

for us using cheap econoboxes, don't bother following those YS / aderen lim stunts.

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