It's not black and white thing lah
recently there is a girl came to kl visit
we also met up spontaneously
I spent like unusually few hundred ringgit for first date
she did initiate a lot of girlfriend hand holding stuff
we got physically close to the point I'm able to grab her waist
but when I try to go for that kiss, she rejected me
and of course,
she didn't pay a single cent for the last 2 dates
she even asked me for money because mentioning she don't have enough cash on hand (it sounds like a scam but actually its not)

and it's not hell a lot of money
I can understand from her perspective
maybe she thinks she looks hot
when you maneuver in life, things always happen
like shit, I'm gonna learn how to adapt for better potential outcomes
that's how we grow more maturely.

This post has been edited by -mystery-: Apr 18 2025, 07:44 AM

I'm curious why you think it's dangerous and expect to get rejected 99.99% maybe that's your own overall subjective experiences

maybe you expressed yourself as too straight and formal guy la
sometimes, when a girl talks to you, you want to disqualify or make it a challenge and tease for her to light up her emotions

If you unable to do it regularly, you probably feeling tense in your belief system that regulates your words and actions

that's what happen when I mouth fast too
gonna filter a little bit when talking
but too much filter will make us live inside our mind and unable to free associate

it's pretty similar when you say ie,
"I don't like a girl when she's materialistic or try hard"

she will interpret it as
"He doesn't like a girl to spend his money, maybe he will be the one who doesn't appreciate his girlfriend during important occasion/I think he doesn't realize women make their own money too/he looks like a woman hater because he thinks all women are oweing him and bla bla bla"

most people are self conscious and narcissistic when it comes to relating to what people say back to themselves

so these days during the meetups
I try to be as objective as possible when expressing myself

This post has been edited by -mystery-: Apr 18 2025, 07:53 AM

Too many facewash girl also
There are all at similar companies and doing the same photoshooting

It depends on what type of female a guy is going for
for example, if the girl works as DJ as bunch of guys throwing themselves to her, it's common that she will want you to spend on her like at W hotel bar, value as a guy is relative to her own perception and surrounding

of course, the worst kind of experience is you pay for her, she doesn't invest onto conversation or even holding your hands being affectionate lmao