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From the video it' seems they were digging at the southern side means further away from the leak point

This post has been edited by machomama: Apr 2 2025, 02:52 PM

Did.... did they just dig BETWEEEN the gas pipes to put the sewage pipes????

Ground zero at left hand side they dig right hand side

Infront is the shoplot, is to the left

Nampak macam developer not responsible wei

This post has been edited by dest9116: Apr 2 2025, 08:38 AM

The hole looks massive though, those big pipes they dig out is severage pipe?

Bila tengok video ni. 1 yang aku terfikir... lepas tengok pulak tempat kejadian selepas kebakaran. Mana agaknya mesen2 dan pekerja2 ni. Adakah api terlalu panas sampai depa pun jadi abu? Ke diorang dah tau gas bocor jadi depa dah lari siap siap?

Tengok video 30/3 malam, semua mesin dah xde kat sana

Let’s see what /k experts comment

Possible. But still can't discard theory the digging could have contributed to fracturing the pipe somewhere due to pressure applied

what a disaster ...
crazy aftermath picture like in warzone

I thought they already put so many AWAS signboards on the grass, yet people still go and dig around it?

korek korek kaboom

Definitely hard to prove theory

At most they kena fine for encroach or work without permit if no approval

This is Malaysia. What do you expect? That they follow rules and heed warning signboards?

Possible theory - 28 to 30 March (afternoon) digging to place the sewerage pipes. Could have fractured the gas pipe nearby due to pressure during digging.

30 March (evening) - keep equipment because Raya on Monday (31 March). Car video at night showed nothing there.

Between 30 March to 1 April - gas leaking, no worker detect or smell because not working.

1 April - pressure hit critical level, and boom.

gas pipe reserve land mana boleh conduct work, u need petronas gas approval or inspection during construction.

Even LRT/MRT track surrounding also need Prasarana approval, this one confirm need.

You hire foreign workers who don't give a shit about safety..... they will do ANYTHING just to get the job done.

the comments section is more fun. paip bocor also can become tindas & ambil hak melayu story

For fire to start, you need heat, fuel and oxygen.
Where did the heat come from? Smokers' cig?

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Apr 2 2025, 09:02 AM

Then who approved this project in the first place? LOL. I really think this is the developer's problem—they should compensate all the victims.

any house drop value, kena burnt down?

That's for investigators to find out where the heat comes from.

Good video recording

Jeng3🫢

what if they actually opened the pandora box (gas pipeline) a little, then found out they fked out, and all cabut midnight first

If pipe fractured then how does the pressure increase? Wouldn't it be slowly leaking, which will result in a fire geyser probably, but not an explosion.

Or they kept the equipment because of Raya....

those are RC drain culverts.
Those are storm drains, not sewerage pipes.

sewerage is usually 4" Clay pipe




Based on this, it could be that they are upgrading/connecting monsoon drains for the new shoplots.
Perhaps they dig one side no issue, got over confident with the other side.

Either way, it is normal to dig next to services like TNB/Air Selangor/Gas pipe.
However, precautions is required. cannot simply hentam

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-pipeline-fire/

Initially it was an explosion, then fire geyser for hours.

What project? The housing? The contractor who caused the explosion shoudl compensate.
And yes, the housing is too near IMO.

can, but the work is going to be super tedious, need alot of pilot trenching (manual digging) along the suspected pipe ROW.
Even if they manage to safely exposed pipes, erosion can happen along the excavated slope which can add burden to the pipe, this is the thing happened to my project years back, high voltage cable snapped caused by soil pressure caused by erosion on the side, producing beautiful arc, luckily no one was nearby at the time.

This post has been edited by Rorschach85: Apr 2 2025, 09:23 AM

for sure this the main cause of it

Where is the excavator after fire ? Vaporised ?

cuti raya, excavator balik kelate

Check 30/3 malam video, all sau gong jor.

first time in mareshia ka??? signboards here are for deco only..

all the gas and construction expert come out already

remember the last sohai contractor dig near the LRT pier then the pier GG, which cause the line to be interrupted for 1 year plus

sohai contractor need to be educated

This is just yesterday.
They started the digging months before and got video they already encroach inside before this

scary shit, i always take this shortcut to my favourite ikan bakar place

Any idea where the pipeline is on this pix?

BLEVE EXPLOSION.

contractor dah luka kan pipe pastu lari, it may causes the gas to leak already and with just a spark, explosion will happen.

Not as simple as that. Its probably a rigid straight line carbon steel pipeline coated with other linings. So the weak point will not be exactly on the pressure applied side. It can be nearby pipe joints which is typically the weak part of the connection.

Basically u move pipe 100 meter away pun the whole pipe section can move.

If its water pipe then its ok for small leak at the joints. But gas pipeline is a big no no.

So means now entire piping need to investigate for any damages ?

yes, people don't realize gas vapor explosion need a ignition source before it can go off

so contractor must realize they have hit the jackpot before cabut in hurry


now most likely already in thailand chilling

How deep the gas line is ?

According to sources - 6tf.

still dont understand why got a gas pipeline

It gonna be by sections. Cannot be in in situ only.
Actually i work in iraq last 3 years involve in building gas lines to power plant. Gas line is no joke. So much thoughts on all the potential weak points on how to protect against civil work and militants activity etc.

But in the end we know that we cant protect everything. Everyone nearby need to be responsible and educated on how to approach nearby lines area.

The funny thing is even in our project the council only approve 1.5 km at least from gas lines pagar for any road works or civil works.

How do you think our power stations are run?

Even refineries with their own power generation units imports natural gas, and it is via pipelines it is delivered.

Do u think gas trucks have the ability to sustain a power plant?

but this one the excavation is done within 100 meter of gas line leh

Thanks bro for sharing. Yeah, Gas line is something no one should play with.

I was in kerteh in 1998 and found out that the entire township is sitting on a gas pipe. Someone back then mentioned that if something bad happen to the pipes, the whole township and nearby area will be wiped out

partly of annual inspection anyway.

DOSH related items all have to check for wall thickness annually.

Oh ok. Hopefully through check done la

wait till he fins out got 220v cable underneath his car porch

because gas pipeline was there before they decide it is good idea to put a taman there

In this case majlis damn crazy approving whole residential section within couple of meters from main gas distribution line.

Normally the concern is either gas explosion or h2s contamination. Normally natural gas contains some h2s depending on scavenging efficiency at processing plant. Even small leak with less than 10 ppm h2s can kill people without any explosion.

you mean 200 KV high voltage transmission line?

Yup, i think the weather sun that day also very hot and trigger the pressure ignition

you is not see enough Ukraine war videos?
Is you not yet seen mighty British Challenger 2 tank with turret tossed into stratosphere?

220v biasa la , autogate, door bell , pillar light also use 220 v pass through car pouch under the car

This post has been edited by bereev: Apr 2 2025, 10:07 AM

this pipeline carry the processed gas, so H2S isn't a concern I think

unless there is line carrying raw gas from production platform then there is risk of H2S

but anyhow, majlis is still damn sohai kebal bodo for approving this

What hard to proof.

This all is handled by forensic and expert. There can pin point exact the problem.

This is not BLEVE which is Boiling Liquid Expansion Vapor Explosion.

BLEVE is only for liquid containers that is heated to a point that the vapors contained within suddenly expands outwards when the containement failed and the expanded vapor ignited.

Something like your tong gas which is liquidfied gas, you put fire outside until the heated tong vaporised all the liquid inside, causing high pressure. Then the tong cracked under intense heat and pressure, the resulting vapor released is what is called a BLEVE.

This is a pressurised gas line rupture, and the gas ignited. There was no fire before the rupture, else we can see smoke everywhere before the explosion.

Based on the still standing building beside the site of release that is not black in color, there was no large release of gas before ignition, or else everything around it will be caught in the explosion and either burned or shatter.

Thus I will conclude it is a pipe rupture, gas sudden released and subsequent ignition of the fuel/air rich mixture. Thus is my amateur conclusion.

This post has been edited by Skidd Chung: Apr 2 2025, 10:11 AM

i wonder how they can give approval or get approval building so close to the gas line...what's the actual guideline, limit distance from the gas line to build.

Prob trying to install pipe to siphon some of the gas for $
If no leak nobody know

Ppl say contractor rapture the pipe then lari. I not sure this theory make sense or not la... It is pressurized pipe and i dont think nowadays there is no sensor to detect pressure leaking la... You are telling me contractor bocor the pipe on 30 march then lari and explosion on 1 april and gas company unable to detect pipe leaking pressure? If ini macam then whole malaysia punya gas pipe ma very jialat lo no early leaking detection?

I want to debunk this theory a bit.

Steel does not fracture easily. Altough the works might cause the pipe to be damaged, leaks happen at point of impact, not 100m away. You dont knock a pipe at point A and it leaks at point C 100m away.

If gas is leaking and covered a large area before igniting, the resulting explosion should have destroyed the buildings beside it. I'm not sure how badly destroyed the shophouses beside is, but i would assume if it was caught in a fiery explosion, it would be burned badly.

Regarding pressure hitting critical, what pressure? The only pressure is in the pipes, once it leaks out to atmosphere, there is only atmospheric pressure.

A pipe failure/rupture can be due to a integrity issues like corrosion or cracks due to errosion or worse case scenario, an impact.

i lol'd when i saw 'expert' claim is BLEVE

anyone from O&G knows its not

i'd put it as VCE without knowing the details.. but definitely not BLEVE

Simply impossible for a high pressure gas line.

Small leaks are hard to detect. Especially for high capacity, high pressure gas.

The leak rate can be discounted as an error of calibration.

100t/h flowrate at 50barg, you won't notice 50kg/h leaks.

usually gas company will put additive, ayam forget the name, but it smell really terrible so that people will notice the leak

problem is this case the digging did by some small time contractor with little knowledge working
on high risk area, their method of digging must like when your excavator bucket hit something, that's the max point of the digging

Fully agree with your BLEVE theory. You need a surrounding fire to cause BLEVE too. There was no report of a fire prior to the main fire, and that was a live pipeline which means rupture from overpressuing was unlikely as there must be an alarm and relief system for the line.

I'm scratching my head looking for the source of ignition. NG has very high auto ignition temperature way above the temperature at which NG is stored or transported in the pipeline. Maybe the invisible gas cloud had travelled outside of the leaking point and caught a source of ignition.

Good theory

let's ask Grok

Mercaptans.

even it is pipe rupture, you still need an ignition source. natural gas don't auto ignite at ambient temperature

so it is a vapor cloud explosion, the nearby house should be the ignition source.

saw some drone image, the gas pipeline is actually sticking out of the ground where the crater is

somehow the pipe just snap in half

A long fully operational pipeline is very heavy and need structural supports along the way.
Not referring to this pipeline in particular, but if a support is disturbed or shifted due to soil movement (tremors ke, soil erosion ke) or a pipe itself kena mechanical shocks, it places big mechanical stress on the piping, and the weakest point, especially welded joints might give way.
My 2 sen opinion jer.

Sometimes it depends on sale spec. Because its hard to reduce h2s until below 5 ppm. For utilization by industry the small h2s will just burn into sulfur dioxide a anyway. So they can accept that.

But still like you said. Its questionable approving residential area within couple of meters from gas line.

I even saw road already built crossing the line? If that is true thats even more irresponsible.

It's always vapour cloud that ignites. You throw a lighted match in a bucket of diesel and the match probably just dies off. Heat up the diesel to generate enough fumesand it may be a different story.

I've mentioned about its high auto ignition temperature and the need for an ignition source.

My theory is the leaks cause gas to acculumate, and the gas travelled until it caught a source of ignition. In a housing estate, there aren't many intrinsically safe devices being used, so it can easily find a source of ignition. A TNB meter? Anything.

Wtf is Omen Necrofis

a burning incense, a hot engine surface and etc

thousand of potential spark point in a residential area.

Bingo.

Do we know already which company that fuck up and who gave them permission? Kamon /k.

cigarette bud. owai..

If you are talking about smell detection, yeah sure you can 'detect' a leak if you are there or the wind blows your direction, the concentration is sufficient, etc. So you can report it to authorities (BOMBA).

But the operators monitoring the pipe flows will not detect the 'neglegible' leaks. It is 'accepted' there will be leaks, whether it is 'harmless' or not, etc before a decision is made to shut the pipes down for maintenance.

if it is a cigarette when dude was chilling outside, dude need year of stay in ICU if not KO on the spot

I dono la... If even you can come out thing like that then i dont think a million or billion dollar industry wont just dont care about it and never find a solution for this. Gas pipe line is not new also and it is not something that can be taken lightly for its safety. Even a small leakage can cause explosion and fatality. I pretty sure these industries know how important to detect early leakage big or small.

Korek then leak then boom terus this 1 i can understand la... korek then leak then boom 1 or 2 days later really susah to make sense. But still i can't say i am right also la... Better wait report out see la...

back hoe operated korek korek while smoking cigarette lo.....

typical construction site behaviour, brought into oil and gas environment

Actually has anyone bothered to chekc if they have a missing backhoe and foreign worker who hasn't checked in.....

dude probably already check and now in thailand chilling