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post Mar 21 2025, 04:03 PM, updated 9 months ago

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Alvin Tan granted asylum in the US

PUTRAJAYA – A man who sparked controversy 12 years ago, Alvin Tan, has claimed that his asylum application has been approved by the United States (US).

In a recent Facebook post, Alvin, whose real name is Tan Jye Yee said that the approval came after spending several months in immigration detention in the country.

He said that he entered the US by surrendering himself at the Mexico-US border after his international passport was revoked by the Malaysian government.

"Initially, I fled to Singapore, then to the United Kingdom (UK) and later to Mexico.

"From Mexico, I walked towards the US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers, informing them that I did not have a passport or visa," he said on Wednesday.

He was subsequently detained and handed over to the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), where he was given the opportunity to plead his case for asylum.



https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/07/politics...isis/index.html


During his 2020 presidential campaign, Joe Biden promised a stark departure from the immigration policies of the Trump administration.

He pledged a 100-day moratorium on deportations after taking office. He promised to protect sanctuary cities from federal law enforcement agencies. And he harshly criticized the Trump administration’s treatment of undocumented immigrants at the southern border, asserting that America had the capacity to “absorb people” while calling on asylum seekers to “surge” to the border

“We could afford to take in a heartbeat another two million,” Biden said at one event in August 2019. “The idea that a country of 330 million people cannot absorb people who are in desperate need and who are justifiably fleeing oppression is absolutely bizarre.”


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post Mar 21 2025, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Mar 21 2025, 04:13 PM)
So selow. You can read his opinion directly.
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what makes you think Trump made him citizen?

asylum seekers applications most likely in advance stage of approval.

tak sempat reject.


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post Mar 21 2025, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Mar 21 2025, 04:20 PM)
What's your point? Alvin was granted asylum in 2018, not 2020.
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He got his green card today, right?
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post Mar 21 2025, 04:34 PM

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These supporters of Alvin, seem to think that Trump is the one that gave him citizenship. But he was helped a lot by Biden. Trump on one hand, only implemented the below, he tak sempat to investigate the background of asylum seekers to know if they are of the right character to be granted the green card.

So its just a coincidence that he got it during Trump administration.


https://en.as.com/latest_news/goodbye-to-th...cy-in-the-us-n/

President Trump implements anti-immigration agenda
While the USCIS’s rule change has removed a potential obstacle towards securing Green Card status, Republican President Trump has otherwise sought to follow through on a hardline, anti-immigration agenda since returning to the White House last week.

What anti-immigration action has Trump taken?
Among a flurry of executive orders, Trump has declared illegal immigration at the US-Mexico border a national emergency, sending additional troops to the area “to support the activities of the Secretary of Homeland Security in obtaining complete operational control of the southern border of the United States.”

“America’s sovereignty is under attack,” the White House said in a statement on the day of Trump’s second inauguration as president. “Our southern border is overrun by cartels, criminal gangs, known terrorists, human traffickers, smugglers, unvetted military-age males from foreign adversaries, and illicit narcotics that harm Americans, including America.”

The Trump administration has also launched immigration raids across the U.S., as the Washington Post reports that officials at Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) have been told to up daily detentions to over 1,000.

In a statement announcing raids in Chicago on Sunday, ICE said it was carrying out “enhanced targeted operations” to “enforce U.S. immigration law and preserve public safety and national security by keeping potentially dangerous criminal aliens out of our communities.”

Meanwhile, Trump has eliminated the CBP One app, a mobile application that granted around 1,500 daily immigration appointments to asylum seekers at the US border, allowing the migrants to enter the country legally while their request was processed. All existing appointments were cancelled.

Furthermore, Trump’s anti-immigration moves include an executive order that seeks to end birthright citizenship in the US. Defined by the American Immigration Council as “a legal principle under which citizenship is automatically granted to individuals upon birth”, birthright citizenship is seemingly protected by the US constitution.

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside,” reads the constitution’s 14th Amendment.
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post Mar 21 2025, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Mar 21 2025, 04:28 PM)
got bola than most of the k/ here and even most of the politician here
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the bola ones are the ones that stayed here and fight.

not try to lure trouble and then use it when powers that be try to persecute him, for reasons of asylum.

hardly appear to be a big bola action.
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post Mar 21 2025, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Cyberbullies @ Mar 21 2025, 04:50 PM)
Lol what? You would equate being stupid to having big bola? I mean he has zero chance of winning had he stayed.

Imagine getting jailed because of meat bone tea kek.

I don’t think just anyone would have bola to do what he did that’s for sure. Those that think otherwise are just keyboard warriors.
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so people who use the reason to get asylum got bola?

actually what exactly is his purpose to do all that? To make change?

that videos he did, what the heck is that for? to main bola is it? Is it supposed to advance anything in human rights?

There is no meaning what he did. Julian Assange exposed wikileaks and ran away for asylum, that's bola. He did right thing but telling the truth. What did this guy did to earn bola? Stupidity to main bola ?

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post Mar 21 2025, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(shingo81 @ Mar 21 2025, 05:00 PM)
Karangan panjang but again, what's your point?

Secondly, he sudah dapat murica citizenship, can stand firmly on his 2 feet in murica soil. No main green card anymore lah.
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point is, he got lucky because of Dems policy of bringing in asylum seekers

not because he was successful

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Ramaswamy

look at this guy...he is even more successful as a migrant.

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post Mar 21 2025, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Mar 21 2025, 06:08 PM)
whether you like him or not, what he did is truly extraordinary

He is truly a "strong" man

some local looks strong, but with tongkat, therefore actually average.

those who looks weak, without tongkat, actually above average
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I would salute him even more, if he had more EQ.

To finish his NUS degree, become successful in Spore, then proceeded to USA.

As for the sex thing with Vivian, is his own private thing, he did not have to show the video out.

he could have had many more one night stands after vivian.

heck he could have graduated, then went to USA to become porn actor for all he wanted.

he didn't have to do all that he did. What so heroic about it?

he just caused more issues for himself and his parents.
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post Mar 22 2025, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Cyberbullies @ Mar 22 2025, 01:41 AM)
Of course there's meaning. It showed how intolerant the majority in our country is. It's an issue that you have no bola to bring up that's for sure. I already said it's ridiculous for him to be jailed for something like that.

One thing you seem to be confused about is you think that he made that big hoo-haa to get asylum - it's the other way round. He made a harmless joke > got persecuted > then without a choice he applied for asylum.

Your definition of being successful is to live like an oppressed man who minds his/her own business. His isn't.

He exposed the hypocrisy of the majority, which is the truth lmao. It's an ongoing issue btw and it's only going to get worse.


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its been exposed since day 1, don't need him to do that.

Everyone knows that la....you are from bolehland, its RULE no.1, sure its double standard.

Just like in USA, the white guy takes out an assault rifle to defend his home against BLM, he gets arrested. But the black people in Minnesota can riot, steal and beat other people, due to BLM, the governor ordered the police to stand down.

What hypocracy to expose? We all know already lah. Come on...unless person was living in Gua all this while.

You need balls to expose this? You don't even need it. Dude eating in the cafeteria kena slapped, it just happened and Hypocracy was exposed. That dude kena slapped have Bola too, right? You need to do what Alvin did meh? And supposed Alvin didn't did for Asylum. What did he do it for? To get bola or stupidity? No matter what you do to expose the hypocracy, it wouldn't make a damn difference anyways. To be an activist and expose hypocracy, you need to make RESULTS. What was Alvin's result? Naada. Mandela was jailed 20-30 years? he and his activists destroyed Apatheid. Just more pain and suffering for 12 years to finally claim he succeeded to USA. He could have done the same by not causing all this and graduated from NUS. Heck, he could still walk to the Mexico and become an illegal immigrant then get naturalised.

He doesn't need to do all that. At what cost? He wasted 12 years of his life to expose something here everyone knows. He could have graduated Magna Cum Laude, then with his grades and smart talk migrate to USA become wolf of wall street, and throw money to striptease like what Leonardo Di Caprio did.

No need to hero worship him. Thank goodness for him that he got through.

Everyone knows USA immigration system was screwed up under Biden and his democrat predecessors: that's why Trump wants to overhaul it with Holman.

Even chinese people are walking to the border of Mexico with Latinos, upload App, then get free food, education and shelter to become citizens in USA. Even Amos Yee the declared fighter for PedoBears can get it. Cannot imagine la. Had I myself walked to the immigration border at Obama/Biden time, and then I do some instigation videos and gave proof of asylum, I also would have achieved what Alvin achieved lah.



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QUOTE(Cyberbullies @ Mar 22 2025, 09:21 AM)
Yeah but you disliking the way he lives his life according to his way and not your way is irrelevant to the "bola" issue we discussed on lol.

He had bola regardless of how meaningless his actions "seem" to you. That's a fact.

Yes we already know but we all diam diam - that's why we are all cowards haha.

That's why sometimes I don't even want to post something that may seem harmless because I am not even sure how it would be interpreted by the majority. Because my life is too expensive for me to throw away for something as stupid as that.

But one thing I won't do is to act all high and mighty and condemn those who dared to do it lol - we are after all cowards who couldn't do what he did.

TLDR:

1) He had bola regardless of how stupid the post on meat bone tea seemed "now" (hindsight 20/20).

2) Whether it's stupid or not is questionable now because at the end of day, he got the green card - he won, lol.
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No, I dislike the way you all hero worship him. He is just a normal dude that made a big mistake, no doubt he had enormous talent (not his dick), an ASEAN scholarship student, an undergraduate of NUS, but he screwed it up and used 12 years of his life, turn it into 12 years as an illegal immigrant (not 12 years a Slave movie).

What bola? What was the result? Did he do any change? None whatsoever. As I said, look at Mandela, Spartacus, Gandhi, they all paid a price to get their people's independence. No doubt none of these dudes are perfect, they got their own shortcomings, but a price they paid to get their people's freedom.

Alvin? What did he do? He didn't help do any favors for people like you and me. He took another long long way to get that USA citizenship. He could have done it by the right way path: afterall he was brilliant and smart. Isn't it ?

But one thing I won't do is to act all high and mighty and condemn those who dared to do it lol - we are after all cowards who couldn't do what he did.

What the heck did Alvin do? He did it all for himself lah. Its nothing to do with bola, all to do with stupidity. Bola is using your talents to the max and achieving it. He didn't utilize his bola at all. He used his dick to think, just like Amos. You hero worship him, because you think he is an activist and he exposed hypocracy in bolehland. Fact is, everyone knows this hypocracy. Its not going to change anything. What has Alvin done, that others did not?

Let me tell you who is the hero, that lady who had her kids taken away by the state, now she is fighting back to keep them. She is the true hero.

Not me, not you, not Alvin. We are all cowards.

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post Mar 22 2025, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(nuvi @ Mar 22 2025, 10:36 AM)
Everyone have their own standards on what's seen as hero.

Yours just immeasurably higher
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maybe you think he is a cool guy.

but being a hero, he needs to have done something for the better of mankind or a role model.

If you think that is a role model, then good luck.

next time go n cause a viral issue, and seek asylum elsewhere, follow his example.
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QUOTE(superbike @ Mar 22 2025, 10:36 AM)
Ya I did follow him on facebook. He went on enjoy his moment in Indonesia.

He's probably choosing the wrong country, for asylum, as it seems. Though we can't really blame Sweden for that, due to middle eastern asylum seekers keep causing problems in Sweden.
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can he switch to another country for asylum...say Canada ?
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QUOTE(superbike @ Mar 22 2025, 10:42 AM)
I read that Canada is open to immigration from other countries to increase their already low numbers of population so i think he can try.
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wonder why he is still staying in sweden
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QUOTE(superbike @ Mar 22 2025, 11:09 AM)
My dad actually encouraged my sister to move to Canada (she's a doctor working under KKM) but she is discouraged by the extreme cold winter. Kek.
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my neighbor, he was working in Winnipeg...had to take 3 flights back to Msia, when his dad suddenly passed away.

by the time he arrived, his dad already buried.

winter there macam -20 degrees.

Don't say ur sister, even I cannot tahan.
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Mar 22 2025, 01:55 PM)
He thinks he is smart which is totally not. He abandoned his family/lover and being a wanted person that could not fly to other countries that have treaties with Malaysia.

The outcome was only fined 5k by the court and no jailing or whatsoever. It proves good in studies does not mean one is smart.
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I am not perfect either, most of us don't have good EQ. He has very high IQ, but he obviously demonstrates very rash decisions made.

Good point you have there, a lot of posters say he has big bola, but fact of matter is, he fled with only 5k fine.

EQ is very important, I've seen people with low IQ but high EQ, get to do well in life.
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QUOTE(Lada Putih @ Mar 22 2025, 11:49 PM)
worst part some folsk legit become american via long ass wait after so many money spent
he did it in less than 10 years
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How old is he now?

37yo ? Dunno.

But his wasted a big part of life, doing all this nonsense.

let's see if he can make back for those lost years now.


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QUOTE(Lada Putih @ Mar 22 2025, 11:57 PM)
who to decide he do best for his own life
im sure ifs definately not you
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I saying this not because it is for me to decide whether or not what is best of his life.

I am saying this because many hero worship him for his "heroic acts". But he did none.

Nothing herioc about what he did.
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Mar 23 2025, 12:22 AM)
for the record, what he did didn't change anything for those still here.

the real hero in my opinion are those never give up under oppression and try again another way at another day. not run away when have to face prosecution because of their opposition. maybe simplest example is Anwar during Mahathir time.
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people say he revealed double standards.

everybody knows that, its been happening for years.

what he has unitentionally uncovered didn't make any change. Yes.
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QUOTE(Pain 9000 @ Mar 23 2025, 12:25 AM)
if you look at his portfolio, i would say he had a second chance in life! hnngghhh
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you mean 4th chance?

1st sex video, he got expelled, left Spore for bolehland

2nd, bkt video, he got investigated, left bolehland to USA

3rd, got asylum, did porn video, green card delayed

4th, got green card, so please don't screw up this time.

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QUOTE(Pain 9000 @ Mar 23 2025, 01:17 PM)
i meant the porn business he had going on. even if reborn or reincarnation it is tough to match that standard.

my circle of friends all envy his businesses there. given the fact that some had supercars some climbed to the leadership team before 40 some had more than 10 properties, then a dude who yearly vacation etc etc,

i can conclude the gold standard of high quality of life for men = this refugee right here. no good foods no cars even to the extend of familyhood is having tough time going against the lifestyle of this guy right here.

too bad he is doing it for a living hence need to show himself out. saw before on youtube there this young albanian chain pharmacy owner having a blast in thailand. without showing his face but damn the girls he got - super top tier in of course variety of high end hotel rooms as the background of his video so you can really see the living fantasy of a guy.

too bad between him and bangkok119 youtube channel, his was banned. ahhh god not that i am complaining about my life my job right now but just please at the minimum let me get a god tier lady if i am doomed to be monogamy eg mira syafira, nia irwan hnnggghhh.
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the KOLs that over-advertise their life, you don't know whats going on behind. So don't envy them.

Lots of frauds out there.

He himself said that Porn movie caused his green card application delayed.

Since he has a legion of fans here. I am not surprise, he will tap into this to do some kind of KOL promotion to earn $$$.

Just like that Msian rapper that often go to Taiwan to sing.

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