P2 = Toyota?

dcvt akan rosak?
sure or not, shouldnt gear be more durable on those high load situation?

Tak tengok, tapi both assemble in same local plant

This post has been edited by stupiak07: Mar 13 2025, 12:53 PM

TBH tho internally wise i have no idea

but physically and visually, its literally the same and i sometimes mistaken the veloz as alza and vice versa

It is the same where veloz 90k had 2 to 3 things more than Alza which not worth 20k difference

internally both are same. only the design slightly differ. Like many people said before, U paid extra for veloz for some fancy internal design and better looking exterior design.

They are from same factory, what do you expect?

its not the same la bro. price also difference..

lancer gt is not same as inspira. proton perdana is not same as honda accord.hahahahahahahahaha

Here we have alza and veloz only

Indo consumers have to compare xenia, avanza and veloz
All 3 same car

This post has been edited by Boy96: Mar 13 2025, 01:01 PM

Lancer GT normally CBU from kilang jepun, Inspira kilang proton.
Honda Accord made in melaka, Proton perdana made in Tanjung Malim, Perak.
Same engine but both cars tuning very different; different power & feel when u drive.
This not include about accessories..

But Alza & Veloz basically same kilang & same person who install it.
Only trim & badge is different. Same parts number also..

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Mar 13 2025, 01:09 PM

WOI. that Toyota logo alone already worth 20k

it came from the same factory and assembly line = it's the same car

Sama as in your left and right testicles also sama.

lol why wanna promo? sohai

Its the same if you can only afford the Alza.

The appearance and external part are different, but the internal part is same. Both have drive shaft problem

I've watched the entire video. Really like Bro Wong content. Unbiased honest view. His conclusion is the extra RM20K is berbaloi, if you can afford it.

The max torque tolerance of the D-CVT is very close to engine output, probably that's why he said rosak easier vs Toyota

didnt go thru the video

tapi

dcvt only final gear is real gear ..the rest belt ..if full throttle since low speed/early in the end belt still putus


toyota direct shift is first gear physical gear

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 13 2025, 01:55 PM

but most people will not hit that max engine figure anyway, they only full throttle on lower speed. just because those gearbox were spec for 150nm torque, doesnt mean it couldnt exceed those figure.

Oh this one got direct shift ady? I misunderstood that it was reserved for the higher end models all these while

alza owner: same
veloz owner: not same

Born from the same mother.....

based on paultan article, they said the gearbox goes to split mode when the driving force is 40-90%.
so yeah, the gear were meant to reduce the belt load, hence giving more life expectancy to those belt.

So better buy alza lah

Got grade 1-4. Expensive to cheapest. Think P2 going to use best then undercharge for the car? Toyota got rep to maintain, not going to cari pasal over cheap parts.

implying daihatsu is bad? lol. they know how to make cheap parts perform well.

Never buy cheap brands that Toyota took over. Must be a reason they failed and got bought over. Nissan next.

lol, toyota wont be able ti make modern 3 cylinder engine without daihatsu tech and expertise la.

And some still swear KDK and Panasonic Ceiling fans are the same.

Between lancer gt and inspira, our inspira is better.
Inspira come with transmission oil cooler and better handling.

burukdua sales man sure cakap sama .

toyota sales man cakap toyota better.

Salesman Perodua say sama
Salesman Toyota say tak sama

I ride and test drived both memang tak sama

Perodua Veloz je

If it's any consolation, the 20k markup also includes VIP pass for shorter waiting time than Perodua's.

Alza used DCVT from Daihatsu same with Veloz

only final gear is physical gear


toyota direct shift only in high end toyota model like harrier

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Mar 13 2025, 03:26 PM

no ragrets watch Bro Wong video, naiisee

dia cakap alza pro max, where got sama, you didnt watch till the end ?

Drive shaft problem? This engine is same as Myvi/aruz also, right. Did not hear about drive shaft problem. Can elaborate pls? TQ

same same but different

Drive shaft problem only applied to Alza and Veloz, as it design weakness the drive shaft easily get loosen, the car will shake when low speed

Alza and Veloz 4 cylinder, still high on ketum? Why wud T want to make cheapo engines for cheapo b40/80 cars when they already have a minor serf compeni doing that?

same2 but not the same

M15 engine does use 3cylinder, the same goes with high performance G16E-GTS engine.

also 2nr-ve used in veloz/alza is daihatsu engine. it will best paired with daihatsu gearbox. the possible reason why umw not using dcvt because they dont want to get perodua(which also have a share on the dcvt gearbox manufacturing plant and co-design) to get the most profit or because they have so much of those gearbox in their storehouse.
https://www.daihatsu.com/news/2015/20150820-2.pdf

This post has been edited by zerorating: Mar 13 2025, 05:48 PM

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