Hi, considering a full sized SUV. Which one would you choose, the C10 BEV at around rm144k or the J7 PHEV at around 159k?

I already have a BEV and frankly, love it. (it's a Seal premium), Of course the C10 range cannot compare but it's still liveable with.

I was already putting aside the C10 and leaning toward the J7 Phev until yesterday when I was driving the Seal sedately when a green C10 came screaming from behind, of course I gave way and it looked bloody good!

As far as distributorship is concerned both are reasonably OK, one Stellantis and the other quite long here.

Anyone here already has the C10, care to comment. Of course the J7 phev is just out maybe next week will have some registrations but most of the regular petrol J7 owners I have talked to are pretty happy with their cars, of course the petrol version is even cheaper than the c10 at around 139k.

Already saw the Sealion 7 seems overpriced and I don't want another Seal look-alike just now.

both different segment right? C10 is D-segment, J7 is C-segment and it's quite small compare to others of this segment.

Do you travel far? Do consider as one is BEV and another one is PHEV, since you already have BEV why not Jaecoo?

My take is if you can survive with BEV and know that you will not need the range go for C10, pretty impressive tech or xPeng G6 also can consider.

The C10 especially the green one looks damn cool. I would have bought it if it was priced a bit cheaper. The C10 is huge and being a BEV it will be a lot cheaper to maintain. It seems now can get some discounts for 2024 cars, you might want to give them a call to find out.

PHEV basically need to maintain an ICE vehicle and still deal with EV components, I would avoid all types of hybrids. Additionally, Chery does seem to have issues with QC so this is a minus point. Stellantis seems to be doing a good job with their brands now compared to how Bermax and Nasim handled it previously, so personally I would be more confident with them rather than Chery/Jaecoo.

Did you consider the e.Mas 7? Cheaper than C10 with better battery tech but doesn't look as good as the C10.

I saw them both in person today regardless of the D/C labels, these 2 cars are about the same size, at least in my eyes though I will admit the c10 has a more bulbous look. the J7 is quite an imposing vehicle.

On a daily basis work/home hardly a few kms. On a twice weekly basis, to Port Dickson & back, round trip 200km. Other than that, distant locations such as Penang, once in a while. Why do you say c10 has pretty impressive tech? What extra tech does the c10 have that the j7 phev does not? I believe all present day BEVs and PHEVs have almost the same tech. Yes I agree Xpeng goes one notch higher where tech is concerned but it's too small and a little overpriced for me.

Yes I totally agree the c10 green looks great! Exactly the point I brought up with the dealer, the stocks are, as far as I know, YOM 2024. YOM 2025 stock are probably in but they are not releasing till the 2024 stocks finish. As far as I know the RRP now is 159k and the promo is 10k off and another 5k off if chosen from the dealer's inventory (keeps changing) so as far as I am aware the deal is 14k off making the price 144k. If 129k for YOM 2024, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and would happily pay 139k for YOM 2025.

At this point my wife's preference is the J7 purely on the c10's interior being too plain & that there is no gear lever in the usual place & that the seats are not leather!

J7 PHEV also moved the gear stalk to the same place as C10 FYI, no more traditional gear lever



This post has been edited by DogeGamingPRO: Mar 5 2025, 01:55 AM

Since you got other rides, i would vote for the C10 as that is pure EV and bigger segment compare to J7 and also simplicity to maintain (less parts to worry as compare to hybrid)

Some guys were able to get it for around RM130k but this was for 2024 demo cars. Their sales is not so good, you should be able to negotiate with them for this price. I tried to nego with them end of last year but at that time it was still new and had the RM10k promo discount, if I got it for RM130-140k, would have bought the green one definitely. But ended up getting the e.Mas 7 coz it was much better value although it does not look as cool.

The combination of its huge size, colour choices and cool rims make it a handsome car if you can live with some of the shortcomings like slower charging, NFC card key and no AACP. But the price is not very competitive IMO, for slightly more you can get the much better Xpeng G6 and for a lot less you can get the e.Mas 7 which is better equipped but has the minus point of having to deal with Proton's less competent sales and after sales teams.

any reason why not Xpeng G6?

xpeng is one class smaller a car and the price is 5k to 25k higher

Xpeng G6 is longer, wider and has a longer wheelbase than the Leapmotor C10.

Yikes, then I must go see.

This post has been edited by sbd: Mar 6 2025, 10:48 AM

The G6 is a much better car in almost all aspects compared to the C10 but the name and looks are not for everyone. The C10 looks a lot better overall.

Actually looks are very subjective, to me the J7 is the better looker. I only had a fleeting glance at a parked G6 and I don't consider the c10 to be good looking that much except the green does add some attraction. My wife too likes the J7 for its looks but has not yet seen the g6. I suspect in my eyes the g6 will look a lot better than the c10, especially in the orange!

Oh, the J7 only looks good in black for us.

This post has been edited by sbd: Mar 6 2025, 12:42 PM

Yes, the J7 is good looking which is why the ICE version is very popular. But that is where the buck stops, the J7 is an inferior car in every way other than looks and it is a much cheaper car in reality but due to taxes it it sits in the same price bracket of the G6 and C10. The first thing you need to decide is whether you want a PHEV or a BEV. Personally, I would no longer consider a vehicle with an engine due to maintenance costs and the premium you pay due to taxes, so the J7 is out of the equation. For me the C10 looks good in all colours but looks outstanding in green. The G6 looks ok but I am willing to compromise on looks for the overall package which is excellent value for money. But yeah, looks are subjective which is why its good to have choices. I actually like the Sealion 7 even more, but BYD cars are too expensive for what they offer, if the price comes down to RM150-160k range for the premium version, then its good value.

i was in the same position as you before.

I did place booking for C10 Green color as the interior brown only for this color.

but once emas7 came out, I cancel booking and go for proton instead.

Few things I research about C10 which make me quite hesitate to proceed

a. using NFC card to enter the vehicle as well as start the car
b. it seem AACP not available for on-going model
c. Slow DC and AC charging (as someone live in high rise, DC is important)
d. Rear boot looks bigger technically smaller than emas 7 plus underfloor storage minimal compared to emas7
e. based on review, application support mcm 50:50 saja with current model

Despite superb rear space and tough looking BEV, I made my decision to switch.

have you taken delivery of the e.mas?

yea, been driving it for 2 months already.

wow you are one of the early adopters. everything to your expectations?

which variant did you go for?

you mean emas7, went for Premium.

So far everything up to expectation, just some minor issue which hoping pronet will fix in their next OTA update.
* Pedestrian warning sound AKA ice cream sound
* Driver profile setting (bind with more setting rather than keep on manual turn off)
* built-in MAP better update
* More apps

quite happy with the purchase, since I was looking to upgrade from ICE compact SUV to C-Segment SUV.
after 5 years, I finally do not need to 'tetris' my boot space constantly

I decided to go with J7 Phev. Should be getting my car delivered Wed or Thu.

Congratulations, J7 definitely a good car and looks so classy
🚗🚙🚗🚙🚗

Bro, take note on the warranty terms ya. Highlighted few times in forum here.

https://www.jaecoo.com.my/warranty

A lot of parts actually not as claim until 10 years, so hopefully you understand well.
I found a lot of new owners quite mislead by marketing & did not really read thru or understand the warranty T&C.

FYI, a lot of important mechanical parts (including engine timing chain for J7 PHEV) only last 3 years or 60k. Especially motor starter, AC compressor all these are very high load items as hybrid will stop start the engine a lot more frequent (switch between EV/ICE engine mode) compare to normal ICE engine and Malaysia hot weather most will on A/C most of the time. Whatever a manufacturer give a warranty period, their engineer must have calculate & knew the average lifespan of it. So if you plan to own more years on the road, please standby some money for those items.

I usually keep cars only 1-2 years. Then sell off. If well kept, one will lose some money, say get back 130k after 2 years so I treat that 30k loss as leasing charges for 2 years. Not bad, 2.5k per month with no expenses, all under warranty and service and no tyre expenses. May even sell sooner if the J8 Phev comes out...

Also I don't believe in spending money on wraps, protection, etc. Even tinting, if I am paying will be below 1k. I believe one is buying the car for enjoyment and the car must work and care for me not the other way around. Also, RV or resale value is of no consequence. Everything depreciates - some a little more than others. For instance I'd buy the new Peugeot 408 in a hearbeat if it were not pure ICE contrary to what people say about its RV. It's a stunner in styling and RV takes a back seat when you want to enjoy the finer things.

This post has been edited by sbd: Mar 18 2025, 11:43 AM

So do i, not into those wrapping, ppf protection what so ever
It will cost a lot, Just send it for proper wash and detailing stuff more then enough
🤔🔥

leapmotor not famous. Probably will die off from market within 2 to 4yr

maybe maybe not. the B10 is a super success in China.

china is not malaysia

Too early to say right, just wait and see 👀🔥

Haven't heard the news?


Don't know why you guys still talking about current batch of EVs which will be redundant soon.

Jaecoo J8 will be on exhibit 27-30 march at 1 utama, will be launch soon 🙂🔜🔥

C10 is an EV and I think in terms of reliability will be way reliable and lower maintenance.
Can't really compare.
J10 phev has the benefits of both worlds at the expense of reliability and higher maintainence.

This post has been edited by Drian: Apr 4 2025, 05:37 PM

Why ... they are one the highest volume for Startup EV in China.



https://carnewschina.com/2025/04/02/chinese...9000-nio-15039/

In china but not in malaysia.

their internationalization game still early on, 100% no apple carplay android auto is one thing
and how much do u trust stellantis

if u just want a nice spacious car and don't care about everything else then sure

i think you might have misunderstood how this PHEV works,

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/10/19/it-ain...-hybrid-engine/

Hybrid engines may experience more wear than traditional internal combustion engines (ICEs). While they may be spared some of the worst wear from heavy loads due to the assistance of electric motors, the frequent start-stop cycles and the need for high efficiency at lower speeds can lead to increased wear in certain components.

LOL
this depends on the charger, and now in China BYD has to deploy their own network of chargers starting with their 4S showrooms only. will take at least few years to be more common, in Malaysia don't even hope la within few years can have. And this new platform maybe within 1-2 years only will get put into their cheaper cars, then maybe add 1-2 more years on top until we can see in export models that come here

then after this finally becomes mainstream then can buy here but then solid state battery also coming, they say first ones coming around 2027-2028, but of course will take another few years to get mainstream, but later say again why buy this BYD 1000v platform when solid state battery coming soon and this will become redundant and outdated, might as well wait for solid state battery

so considering current charging network (at least in Malaysia), the current batch of EVs are good enough to use for many years to come, then u can wait until solid state batteries become mainstream maybe in the early 2030s and then change car, nothing wrong with buying the current batch of EVs IMO

but if you not looking at changing car at the moment and can wait then wait lor nothing wrong with that either

Wait for Deepal S05 REEV