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TSkk2628
post Feb 25 2025, 04:49 PM, updated 10 months ago

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Hi,

I am looking for ISP provider that support DDNS, with reasonable package price i.e. 100mbps <RM100.

Just asked YES, they don't.



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post Feb 25 2025, 05:18 PM

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Most low priced packages is on CGNAT, only one that still supports Public IP to work with DDNS is maxis but with charge (Either monthly or one time iirc)
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post Feb 25 2025, 05:40 PM

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A lot of CCTV already has portal/website for you to login and check video.

If you are hosting your own server/website. Then you can use Cloudflared agent to mapped a domain name to your server.
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post Feb 25 2025, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(kk2628 @ Feb 25 2025, 04:49 PM)
Hi,

I am looking for ISP provider that support DDNS, with reasonable package price i.e. 100mbps <RM100.

Just asked YES, they don't.
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Using YES now, all my IP-Cams just work fine through its cloud app which is free.

These days DDNS via CGNAT or public IPs are no longer needed.

Modern day IP-Cams are supplied with their own apps which you register your free account, then link/bind your IP-Cams to your account.Once done, you connect your Cam devices to your home WiFi/LAN Network which all of them will automatically connect itself back to the cloud server whenever you want to view through your cam outside through your app installed on your phone.

The DDNS relaying is already taken care by the manufacturer's app.

No cloud subscription fee needed, you can still record with the Cam's SD card inserted in them and then use the cloud service as a relaying service to access your cams via the phone/PC app remotely.

Unless you want something safer to record your videos in a remote server so that even if the burglar destroys your CAM the evidence has been safely uploaded across the internet. Then you'd have to pay for subscription.


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post Feb 25 2025, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(kk2628 @ Feb 25 2025, 04:49 PM)
Hi,

I am looking for ISP provider that support DDNS, with reasonable package price i.e. 100mbps <RM100.

Just asked YES, they don't.
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Take maxis cheapest plan then top up rm10 for public ip
TSkk2628
post Feb 26 2025, 03:52 PM

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Thank you all for your reply.

I am using DDNS now with Maxis, I asked because there are some issues with them now that I'll share later.

At times, I may need to access my PC and servers remotely via desktop sharing app like NoMachine. Without DDNS, what are the ways I can connect to my PC and servers remotely ? Some say VPN, but I am not familiar how to setup and use the technology in this case i.e private ip if no DDNS. I have tried teamviewer, Desktopshare or some others just not meeting my requirements.

Here is the issue with Maxis, last week the internet connection went down, I lodged a complaint, and went through all the ding-dong, I was told yesterday that "They can only solve my internet problem if I accept a new two year contract because they have upgraded to fibre optic" I have signed up this 30mbps package more than 8 years ago (that time was using copper wire), and I just cannot tahan their coercive attitude that this is the only solution.

So, start looking for a new ISP. From the reply, I am a bit disappointed, seems the ISP are more restricting their services compare to years ago.


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post Feb 26 2025, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(kk2628 @ Feb 26 2025, 03:52 PM)
Thank you all for your reply.

I am using DDNS now with Maxis, I asked because there are some issues with them now that I'll share later.

At times, I may need to access my PC and servers remotely via desktop sharing app like NoMachine. Without DDNS, what are the ways I can connect to my PC and servers remotely ? Some say VPN, but I am not familiar how to setup and use the technology in this case i.e private ip if no DDNS. I have tried teamviewer, Desktopshare or some others just not meeting my requirements.

Here is the issue with Maxis, last week the internet connection went down, I lodged a complaint, and went through all the ding-dong, I was told yesterday that "They can only solve my internet problem if I accept a new two year contract because they have upgraded to fibre optic" I have signed up this 30mbps package more than 8 years ago (that time was using copper wire), and I just cannot tahan their coercive attitude that this is the only solution.

So, start looking for a new ISP. From the reply, I am a bit disappointed, seems the ISP are more restricting their services compare to years ago.
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What issue that you said those apps does not meet your requirements,since those apps is quite popular for pc remote control.

You can install SDWAN VPN apps like zerotier or Tailscale,and using RDP or others remote control app on both end. (For this latency might not be good enough,but can be mitigate with additional configuration as traffic node)
Cloudflaretunnel should also working,but need additional configuration. (This might be okay,since the data passthrough Cloudflare networks)
This way does not need public ipv4.

And last ipv6 is also a way for you to use remote connection without public ipv4.

And i think u are misunderstanding about DDNS.
DDNS is not equal to public acces/public ip.

DDNS mean dynamic DNS service. it only used to update the current public ip of the device to the domain. (It does not provide public ip.)

And u actually asking about public ip for your thread.

Update:
And For your monthly budget, therer are no Malaysia ISP have the plan with public ip with below rm100.

For unifi the minimum speed plan with public ip is 500mbps plan,which should be rm129-rm149 per month exclude sst depends of the plans.

This post has been edited by go626201: Feb 26 2025, 05:11 PM
TSkk2628
post Feb 26 2025, 05:46 PM

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Thank you @go626201 for your reply.

I just found out about ZeroTier and Tailscale, need to explore and evaluate these two days. Any tips to lower the latency ? What is traffic node ?

May be my description is unclear, I do aware what is DDNS. Anyway, thanks for pointing out.

Anyone using CelcomDigi, how is their customer service and service performance ? Their new all in one plan of RM261 is really interesting if I can successfully use the above without public ipv4.


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post Feb 26 2025, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(kk2628 @ Feb 26 2025, 05:46 PM)
Any tips to lower the latency ? What is traffic node ?
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Get a local low latency vps and setup the vps as a relay node (traffic will be exchange by this vps server between your device).
Which will bring the latency to within 20ms,depends of the vps and routing connection.

And the vps must be low ping to both size.
Example:
At site A,your control device latency ping to that vps is 12ms,
At site B,being control PC located at site B,and the ping to that vps is 10ms.
Then this is okay.

But when the vps routing is not optimized.
example:
At site A,your device to that vps is 100ms,
At site B,PC to that vps is 10ms.
Then you might be having unstable connection when you are remote control the devices.

But this might be have a 3rd situation(With no private relay node),at this time if the STUN is succesful done between your device and PC,and ping is so far okay like 40-50ms+, then it might be okay for use without the relay node.

But this vps method might be unnecessary if the official relay node already works okay for your usage. (But it might be changes depends of the time and routing, sometime good sometime bad)
As i mention before ipv6 is also a way to remote connect.(Which will be 100% public ipv6 address)
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post Feb 26 2025, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(go626201 @ Feb 26 2025, 06:20 PM)
Get a local low latency vps and setup the vps as a relay node (traffic will be exchange by this vps server between your device).
Which will bring the latency to within 20ms,depends of the vps and routing connection.

And the vps must be low ping to both size.
Example:
At site A,your control device latency ping to that vps is 12ms,
At site B,being control PC located at site B,and the ping to that vps is 10ms.
Then this is okay.

But when the vps routing is not optimized.
example:
At site A,your device to that vps is 100ms,
At site B,PC to that vps is 10ms.
Then you might be having unstable connection when you are remote control the devices.

But this might be have a 3rd situation(With no private relay node),at this time if the STUN is succesful done between your device and PC,and ping is so far okay like 40-50ms+, then it might be okay for use without the relay node.

But this vps method might be unnecessary if the official relay node already works okay for your usage. (But it might be changes depends of the time and routing, sometime good sometime bad)
As i mention before ipv6 is also a way to remote connect.(Which will be 100% public ipv6 address)
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Thank you for your sharing and clarification. I'll keep the VPS solution in mind for the moment. I'll explore the IPv6 option.

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post Feb 26 2025, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(kk2628 @ Feb 26 2025, 07:03 PM)
Thank you for your sharing and clarification. I'll keep the VPS solution in mind for the moment. I'll explore the IPv6 option.
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Setting up a VPS is more tedious than you think, you'll also need to pay for further subscription which adds to your bill.

Should you decide to use VPN, you need another functioning internet gateway over the other end which must be readily available to connect to.

If you don't want to use Cloud based IP-Cams, switching to fibre and requesting for public IP from Maxis is still the best deal you shouldn't ignore.
I strongly advise you never to touch CelcomDiGi Fibre.

No public IP option and their connectivity is very lousy worst than Unifi.Switching to other ISPs will also need you to sign a 2 years contract.

Might as well ask Maxis to offer you 100Mbps for the price you're paying now and see if they can give further reduction for the public IP option. They might give you something good if they want to retain you.
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post Feb 27 2025, 08:51 AM

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TIME has moved all users to CGNAT a few months ago.
But now, I think you can request for Public IP for free for 200mbps.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...0&p=110779296&#

This post has been edited by ChenKaiWen: Feb 27 2025, 08:55 AM
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post Feb 27 2025, 10:34 AM

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My past experiences with Unifi and Maxis are somewhat balance in between Good & Bad... laugh.gif

My understanding of DDNS is just a Free Domain Name that points back to your Home's Public IP Address. By using DDNS such as No-IP or similar, doing so will help you to remember "Names" instead of IP Address which may be changed from time-to-time. So, by using DDNS... you just needs to remember its name only.

For Public IP, both Unifi and Maxis does offers such service and usually its FREE too. But depending on your subscriptions, they may request you to upgrade to a higher package like 300Mbps. tongue.gif

Take note that the Free Public IP Address will be change from time-to-time (depending on ISP), so it makes sense to use DDNS instead. If you want a permanent Public IP Address, then you need to subscribe to Fixed Public IP Address with additional of RM200/mth (depending on ISP, Unifi charge RM200/mth per IP).

If you just want to access your house's CCTV cameras, as recommended by everyone here... just use those Wifi Cameras (eg. TP-Link) then register a FREE Cloud Account, Install the Apps and you are good to go. For more conventional system with DVR/NVR, you can have a look at HIKVision System. Their DVR/NVR are Cloud Ready too with their own Platform and Apps.

Thus its all depends on your usage and requirements, if you want to run your own Home Server then using DDNS with Free Public IP is the way to go & cost saving too.

If its just for the sake of CCTV access, just use their Free Platform like HIKVision/HIKConnect. Easy, hassle free and totally FREE.


Hope this helps... cool2.gif

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post Feb 27 2025, 02:42 PM

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The TS already said his budget is just only under RM100.

It is impossible other ISPs will offer him low rates similar to his previous Maxis Business Fibre plan for RM88/mth.

Now they're asking him to renew his contract so that they'll switch him over to fibre from the old copper infra.Since his contract is already over, and there's retention benefits it is always good to ask for some additional offers.

There is no longer 30M plans now from Maxis, it's been upgraded to 100Mbps for same price. Also maybe TS should request for additional discounts/rebates and use them to offset the additional RM10 request for public IP.
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post Feb 27 2025, 03:15 PM

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go IPv6,guarantee public IP,now I use ALLO fibre 100mbps(RM49) with IPv6 RDP/EVERTHINGS/TORRENT(PT) and work perfectly

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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Feb 25 2025, 09:41 PM)
Using YES now, all my IP-Cams just work fine through its cloud app which is free.

These days DDNS via CGNAT or public IPs are no longer needed.

Modern day IP-Cams are supplied with their own apps which you register your free account, then link/bind your IP-Cams to your account.Once done, you connect your Cam devices to your home WiFi/LAN Network which all of them will automatically connect itself back to the cloud server whenever you want to view through your cam outside through your app installed on your phone.

The DDNS relaying is already taken care by the manufacturer's app.

No cloud subscription fee needed, you can still record with the Cam's SD card inserted in them and then use the cloud service as a relaying service to access your cams via the phone/PC app remotely.

Unless you want something safer to record your videos in a remote server so that even if the burglar destroys your CAM the evidence has been safely uploaded across the internet. Then you'd have to pay for subscription.
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but some cctv cloud server provider that's free to use has restrictions, like you cannot streaming over 5 min, it will cut off and need reconnect again, to remove that restriction you need to subscribe to their premium service


for normal lite users are fine, but if need long time streaming their cctv, still need public IPs
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post Mar 3 2025, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Mar 2 2025, 10:49 PM)
but some cctv cloud server provider that's free to use has restrictions, like you cannot streaming over 5 min, it will cut off and need reconnect again, to remove that restriction you need to  subscribe to their premium service
for normal lite users are fine, but if need long time streaming their cctv, still need public IPs
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No limitation on TP-Link's Tapo on how many IP-Cams you can add to each account and live view restrictions.

It is to conserve cloud service streaming resources when you're on an external network connecting back home but recording still continues..
Only when you're on the same WiFi LAN network at home with unrestricted bandwidth resources, then only you can live stream continuously.

https://www.tapo.com/ph/faq/55/

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In certain situations, some customers may prefer continuous access to the live stream of their Tapo camera. For instance, you might want to keep an eye on your baby while occupied with household chores like preparing dinner. Generally, yes, it is possible to maintain a continuous live stream, this requires that both your monitoring phone and the camera are connected to the same wireless network and have a strong signal.

However, some customers might encounter interruptions, receiving prompts to continue viewing after several minutes. In such cases, it's advisable to verify that your phone and camera are connected to the same network. Only under this condition can the camera communicate directly with the phone, ensuring a stable and prolonged streaming experience.

Case 1. Your phone and camera are on the same network

Case 2. Your monitoring phone and the camera are on different Wi-Fi networks

Case 3. You are using third-party devices such as Google Home Hub, Echo Show, or Fire TV to view the camera's live stream


You can set your camera to detect changes in a viewing area whereby if it detects movements, you'll be alerted or the camera can start recording for a length of time.

Now all though other brands allow continuously live stream mode.
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I remember long ago xiaomi cameras didn't have a stream limit, a friend of mine had one continously streaming.

Not sure if it's still the case now
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So far I have tested HIK-Connect Apps, no limitation.

I also heard my friend tested on TP-Link TAPO & HuaWei, no limitation also.

Thus I think TAPO & HuaWei is a good bet.


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Actually centralized self managed CCTV PVRs through DDNS/public IPs are more risky than cloud based secured IP-Cams.

If a hacker manages to hack into your PVR recorder, you home because a live feed streaming channel broadcast.

At least a fully managed cloud service has encryption protected and account based with each IP-Cam registered with it.

Unknowingly this is what happened in India:

DESTROYING A Father And Son's SCAM OPERATION!



Scam Call Center Gets EXPOSED Live On Their CCTV!



The professional hacker/detective recorded every single min of the scam call centre operation at different angles..

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