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post Feb 19 2025, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Feb 19 2025, 06:30 AM)
Landlords like Jason face challenges as some tenants have fraudulently opened TNB accounts in their names, leading to massive debts from illegal Bitcoin mining activities.
This part doesn't make sense. It says the tenant fraudulently open a TNB account in the landlord's name?

Or the landlord rent the premises and the tenant use the rental agreement to open an account in the own tenant's name?

Which is correct?
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Feb 19 2025, 06:32 AM)
With tnb app, there's no reason for LL to get surprises if he checks diligently.
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May be the LL doesn't know an tnb account has been opened in his name? If he doesn't know the account exist, how can go check?
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Feb 19 2025, 06:40 AM)
Electricity Supply Act 1990 is lopsided against consumers
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Which part or what did it says that is unfair to consumers?
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Feb 19 2025, 06:56 AM)

When we talk about responsibility, the landlord and also TNB both are responsible.

Landlord did not check the bill contantly to prevent massive amount from accumulation.

If account in the tenant's name, how to check regularly? Unless the account is in the Landlord's name and bill given to LL
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(boystyle @ Feb 19 2025, 07:19 AM)
tenant can register electricity under their own name, why landlord want to use own name for electric bill

still living in 80s?
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The news say "fraudulently". Meaning the LL did not agree to use LL name.

Now assuming the meter is under the Tenant's name and the LL suspect something, all LL can do is report and have no power to request TNB to cut off electricity. Since TNB will come after the LL anyway, why not put the meter under LL name. Anything suspicious, LL can immediately request electricity cut off
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post Feb 19 2025, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(wow1wow2 @ Feb 19 2025, 07:22 AM)
Some of my client faces this issue to but not to the extend of millions but hundred of thousands.

My advice to them is not to go to court since the act is very clear tnb is going to win as long you are the account owner
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If account in tenant's name, LL still responsible?

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Feb 19 2025, 08:00 AM)
The Court of Appeal in Thomas followed the decision in Tenaga Nasional Bhd v Empayar Canggih Sdn Bhd (previously known as ODVD Manufacturer Sdn Bhd) [2014] 8 MLJ 280, where it was held that it was the registered consumer that was responsible as the power and supply agreement with TNB was in their name.
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Quote. It says if meter registered in tenant's name, then responsibility is with the tenant. So LL doesn't get saddled with the unpaid bills?

In the circumstances, it would be advisable for landlords to execute a change of name of the registered consumer, during the tenancy, whereby the tenant becomes the registered consumer and would therefore be liable for any offences committed.


https://www.thomasphilip.com.my/articles/i-...eter-tampering/
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post Feb 19 2025, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Feb 19 2025, 08:21 AM)
correct. TNB can only sue the party in which it has signed a contract which is the buyer of the electricity (or the registered meter owner).  If i own a concrete shell, TNB has no business sueing me.  TNB needs to go after the buyer of the electricity (or its counterparty).

executing a change of name is actually quite easy these days.  register at mytnb and can open or close account online.  cool2.gif
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Let's say there are several tenant in a shop house. And 1 of the tenant refused to pay, can TNB threaten to cut off electricity for the whole shop house since it has the same address?
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post Feb 19 2025, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Feb 19 2025, 08:27 AM)
TNB will only deal with the registered electricity meter name. Its implicit that this meter name has sub-contracted out to the other tenants, and this name has to deal with the sub-contracted accordingly.

TNB cannot cut off other registered names in the same address. its illegal
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well, I know of a case whereby they threaten to.

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post Feb 19 2025, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Feb 19 2025, 08:38 AM)
they can huff and puff but legally they have no case.

report them to TNB HQ.
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TNB and Sarawak Energy under same law? Or different?

 

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