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TSjack2
post Feb 15 2025, 08:50 AM, updated 7 months ago

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I met one foreigner but he has no passport and working permit.

Able to make one for both to legalise everything?
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post Feb 15 2025, 09:07 AM

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if he's already in malaysia, passport matters can only be dealt with at his embassy. no malaysian authorities can create a passport for him
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post Feb 15 2025, 09:16 AM

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passport need re-do at his embassy, permit is the tricky part, need go through all the process of
applying approval, and re-hiring is not always open. hmm.gif
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post Feb 15 2025, 09:55 AM

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Perhaps wait for this?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5508925/
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post Feb 15 2025, 09:56 AM

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Ask them to go back.
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post Feb 15 2025, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Feb 15 2025, 09:07 AM)
if he's already in malaysia, passport matters can only be dealt with at his embassy. no malaysian authorities can create a passport for him
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Yes, he is in Malaysia already and from Myanmar. He wanted to work in my kennel. But later found out he has nothing.


QUOTE(ben_ang @ Feb 15 2025, 09:16 AM)
passport need re-do at his embassy, permit is the tricky part, need go through all the process of
applying approval, and re-hiring is not always open.  hmm.gif
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Sigh
TSjack2
post Feb 15 2025, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Feb 15 2025, 09:55 AM)
He has no UN document too.
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post Feb 15 2025, 09:58 AM

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You planning to hire the foreigner for work?

If you planning to hire him ask him to process his passport and exit malaysia and when he enter malaysia you can process his work permit (most important is that his passport cannot stamp as social visit)

The foreigner now dont have passport and you can ask him to go polis station and make a report that he have lost his passport then he can take the report and apply for new passport at embassy

You dont know if he enter malaysia illegally / over stay / wanted by polis / wanted by immigration or got other criminal record, if he can apply for new passport and can exit malaysia (not deported) means his record is clean

With his clean record you can process / hire agent to process his working permit when he re-enter malaysia

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post Feb 15 2025, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Feb 15 2025, 09:56 AM)
Ask them to go back.
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Please, people needs money and want to work for life. If they have choices, do you think they wanna come here?

Life is hard.

TSjack2
post Feb 15 2025, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(darkwaka @ Feb 15 2025, 09:58 AM)
You planning to hire the foreigner for work?

If you planning to hire him ask him to process his passport and exit malaysia and when he enter malaysia you can process his work permit (most important is that his passport cannot stamp as social visit)

The foreigner now dont have passport and you can ask him to go polis station and make a report that he have lost his passport then he can take the report and apply for new passport at embassy

You dont know if he enter malaysia illegally / over stay / wanted by polis / wanted by immigration or got other criminal record, if he can apply for new passport and can exit malaysia (not deported) means his record is clean

With his clean record you can process / hire agent to process his working permit when he re-enter malaysia
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Yes, for my kennel.

Thanks for your valuable information. I need to reconsider if I should hire him.

How about if he applies for the UN refugees card? His friend has this card but without passport too during 2009 when gov opened for registration.

This post has been edited by jack2: Feb 15 2025, 10:02 AM
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post Feb 15 2025, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 15 2025, 09:59 AM)
Please, people needs money and want to work for life. If they have choices, do you think they wanna come here?

Life is hard.
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Malaysian no need money?. Seems you just want cheap and obedient slave labor instead
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post Feb 15 2025, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Feb 15 2025, 10:03 AM)
Malaysian no need money?. Seems you just want cheap and obedient slave labor instead
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Wrong. You never know my history. Malaysian is not willing to work in this dirty and hard work. I have been searching for many years without success.

I offered him 2500 for free stay and all meal for just 6 hours work.

Don't comment if you never know anything.

This post has been edited by jack2: Feb 15 2025, 10:05 AM
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post Feb 15 2025, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 15 2025, 10:00 AM)

How about if he applies for the UN refugees card? His friend has this card but without passport too during 2009 when gov opened for registration.
Malaysia law state that a person under refugee status (UN refugees Card) cannot work in malaysia


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post Feb 15 2025, 10:10 AM

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Thanks for everyone's reply.
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post Feb 15 2025, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(darkwaka @ Feb 15 2025, 10:09 AM)
Malaysia law state that a person under refugee status (UN refugees Card) cannot work in malaysia
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So strange. The one who recommended me has this card only but he works for someone.


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post Feb 15 2025, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 15 2025, 10:57 AM)
So strange. The one who recommended me has this card only but he works for someone.
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My friend work as aircond service / repair and he hire UN card holder before, when stop by polis the polis will tahan the UN card holder and they will be release after few days because they will check if his UN card is real or fake

You can try hire UN card holder for your kennel but when kena check by polis / immigration you can try informing them that he is helping out here and "you dint pay him salary" but providing him daily food for his assistant (you know malaysia alot loop hole)

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post Feb 15 2025, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(darkwaka @ Feb 15 2025, 11:12 AM)
My friend work as aircond service / repair and he hire UN card holder before, when stop by polis the polis will tahan the UN card holder and they will be release after few days because they will check if his UN card is real or fake

You can try hire UN card holder for your kennel but when kena check by polis / immigration you can try informing them that he is helping out here and "you dint pay him salary" but providing him daily food for his assistant (you know malaysia alot loop hole)
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My friend advised me this too that his friend is doing sub-con work for construction. He can't get local people and has no choice to get foreigner without permit (not sure if has passport or UN card). He got stopped by polis and at the end, he ahem ahem to take his worker out.

The one you suggested, I did think before by giving such info but I don't know if it will work or not.

Definitely I give priority to local people but I can't get them at all although I have offered good pay. Even some big co advertised to hire account exe, baru RM2k for 8 hours job.


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post Feb 15 2025, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(kesvani @ Feb 15 2025, 10:03 AM)
Malaysian no need money?. Seems you just want cheap and obedient slave labor instead
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Wow still can ride high horse after screw ppl life upside down .
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post Feb 15 2025, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Feb 15 2025, 05:10 PM)
Wow still can ride high horse after screw ppl life upside down .
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I screw whos life upside down
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post Feb 15 2025, 07:00 PM

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U can hire UN card holders but he sure not to let him roam around freely. Rela or PDRM will catch and as the employer, u will kena fines if they know he's working for u. Of course, many just settle under table.

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