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TSillwill3
post Jan 30 2025, 08:43 PM, updated 11 months ago

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My friend is a foreigner who started working in Malaysia a while back. However, recently his employer stopped paying his salary and didn't renew his visa but still expects him to work. What can he do or what can I do to help him out? It's even tougher for him since his dad passed away last year and now he's the one working and helping his mom out with expenses.
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post Jan 30 2025, 08:52 PM

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Report the employer to the authorities for employing illegal workers.

Unfortunately your friend will be deported but this is better than being continually exploited by the unscrupulous employer.
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post Jan 30 2025, 09:04 PM

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post Jan 30 2025, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(empstar2 @ Jan 30 2025, 09:04 PM)
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no its an actual friend lol. im Malay and my company's quite chill Alhamdulillah
TSillwill3
post Jan 30 2025, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jan 30 2025, 08:52 PM)
Report the employer to the authorities for employing illegal workers.

Unfortunately your friend will be deported but this is better than being continually exploited by the unscrupulous employer.
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labor court you mean? will they be able to get the unpaid salary or will that be gone too?
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post Jan 30 2025, 09:24 PM

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Not sure if JPP or JTK have any power in foreign employee, but I think it does. Your friend may want to refer to them.

As long as there is black and white contract. If he report your friend on working without valid visa, he himself also kena under various act.

Even better if your friend have any proof that the employers is still asking him to work eventhough they know he is wihout visa. Any proof will do, as long as they acknowledge that he is working with them without proper visa. That will land them in hot water.
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post Jan 30 2025, 10:53 PM

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Whatever he does do not let the employer take notice of it beforehand.

Have seen an absolute dick move from employers on this before.
>Do not pay last few months salary
>Visa almost expire / expired
>When project finished / employer caught wind of possible legal report:
>Employer call immigration on illegal overstaying.
>$$$$ Free labor, possible legal case also averted.
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post Jan 30 2025, 11:28 PM

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Maybe try message PSM? Parti sosialis malaysia. Saw them always helping workers regardless local or immigrant.
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post Jan 31 2025, 12:40 AM

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Foreigner always lose out. They win at labour law then kena immigration law screw them.
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post Jan 31 2025, 08:20 AM

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working in what field?construction?
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post Jan 31 2025, 08:23 AM

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Kerje Bangla ke? Or Ada title punya?
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post Jan 31 2025, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(*lightbringer* @ Jan 30 2025, 09:24 PM)
Not sure if JPP or JTK have any power in foreign employee, but I think it does. Your friend may want to refer to them.

As long as there is black and white contract. If he report your friend on working without valid visa, he himself also kena under various act.

Even better if your friend have any proof that the employers is still asking him to work eventhough they know he is wihout visa. Any proof will do, as long as they acknowledge that he is working with them without proper visa. That will land them in hot water.
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Jan 30 2025, 10:53 PM)
Whatever he does do not let the employer take notice of it beforehand.

Have seen an absolute dick move from employers on this before.
>Do not pay last few months salary
>Visa almost expire / expired
>When project finished / employer caught wind of possible legal report:
>Employer call immigration on illegal overstaying.
>$$$$ Free labor, possible legal case also averted.
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QUOTE(MrBaba @ Jan 31 2025, 12:40 AM)
Foreigner always lose out.  They win at labour law then kena immigration law screw them.
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Yea thats what im worried about. report to JPP/JTK but end up getting deported and no help bcos he's foreigner :/ I do know that employer also can get in trouble, but i dont hv much faith in the system since I've read on multiple occasions the employers who employ ilegal bangladeshi people arent punished, only the employee is. But i'll give him this advice. tq!

QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 30 2025, 11:28 PM)
Maybe try message PSM? Parti sosialis malaysia. Saw them always helping workers regardless local or immigrant.
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I'll check them out as well. didnt know they helped with this, only knew MCA can help a bit with loan sharks. thanks for the advice!



QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Jan 31 2025, 08:20 AM)
working in what field?construction?
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no not bangladeshi work. got title/white collar job.

anyways, thanks everyone for the advise. I'll share it with him. hopefully all goes well
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post Jan 31 2025, 09:10 AM

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JTK doesn't bother with legal or illegal. It's immigration dept that handle foreigners passes and deportation.
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post Jan 31 2025, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(illwill3 @ Jan 31 2025, 08:51 AM)
Yea thats what im worried about. report to JPP/JTK but end up getting deported and no help bcos he's foreigner :/ I do know that employer also can get in trouble, but i dont hv much faith in the system since I've read on multiple occasions the employers who employ ilegal bangladeshi people arent punished, only the employee is. But i'll give him this advice. tq!
I'll check them out as well. didnt know they helped with this, only knew MCA can help a bit with loan sharks. thanks for the advice!
no not bangladeshi work. got title/white collar job.

anyways, thanks everyone for the advise. I'll share it with him. hopefully all goes well
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As mentioned, its not JTK or JPP power to deport foreigner. The power lies within Immigration jurisdiction. No doubt, he will be deported, but he will certainly get his salary first. A lot of foreigner also faced with the same thing during covid time, and they all got paid. Plus there is nothing to lose anymore, so might as well go all out. Don't let it slide. If u will, they will let it happen to another person again.

Just go to Menara Perkeso, or lodge report to JPP and JTK. They will take care of it.
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post Jan 31 2025, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(illwill3 @ Jan 30 2025, 09:12 PM)
labor court you mean? will they be able to get the unpaid salary or will that be gone too?
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No not industrial court.
no need to waste time filing claims bcs he would have been deported by then because his visa has expired and will be considered an illegal immigrant.

His so called employer is exploiting him knowing he cant do anything without implicating himself.

We call this modern slavery and unfortunately it still exist in 2025.

This post has been edited by COOLPINK: Jan 31 2025, 12:41 PM
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post Jan 31 2025, 04:16 PM

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