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QUOTE(hellothere131495 @ Jan 28 2025, 11:50 PM)
the 671b, full bit unquantized model.
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Its free right? Then what point of using the smaller version compared to 671b?
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jan 29 2025, 01:11 AM)
Its free right? Then what point of using the smaller version compared to 671b?
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The smaller version are less demanding in terms of hardware (VRAM in particular)
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post Jan 29 2025, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jan 29 2025, 01:11 AM)
Its free right? Then what point of using the smaller version compared to 671b?
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full bit 671b requires around 1400GB memory size of either the system RAM (if running cpu AI) or GPU VRAM.

Not rich enough to have that monster pc

This post has been edited by terradrive: Jan 29 2025, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Jan 28 2025, 11:10 PM)
hey. any freelancer willing to do a bit coding for hire?

im planning to build a chatbot using deepseek for my online futsal court booking platform. API ready.
deepseek api cost is very attractive compare to chatgpt.
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No need, just run small model with tool support will do.

QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jan 29 2025, 01:11 AM)
Its free right? Then what point of using the smaller version compared to 671b?
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Use less resource, but much weaker performance.
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post Jan 29 2025, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(syyang85 @ Jan 28 2025, 11:10 PM)
hey. any freelancer willing to do a bit coding for hire?

im planning to build a chatbot using deepseek for my online futsal court booking platform. API ready.
deepseek api cost is very attractive compare to chatgpt.

im a bit lazy to code on the side now.

different topic:
US tech stock dipped after deepseek blew up. but I think its a knee jerk reaction.

deepseek is open sourced. chatgpt and the likes can make reference and make changes to their codes. and with their massive AI chip that is only available to them.
its gonna come back MASSIVE.

its good for business and consumers. I think massive discount gonna come soon to chatgpt and the likes when are on par in term of cost with deepseek.

I think have a long position on US AI stocks is still a good look
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Ask deepseek to code?

Maybe wait a couple months will have deepseek r2 since liangwenfeng just met with Chinese Premier and gotten Hangzhou govt support after rocking US's AI industry? Imagine having entire huawei cloud for his team to train the next version of deepseek.

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 29 2025, 07:30 AM)
full bit 671b requires around 1400GB memory size of either the system RAM (if running cpu AI) or GPU VRAM.

Not rich enough to have that monster pc
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But with full bit, what is the performance compare to chatgpt? Same or even higher than chatgpt?
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jan 29 2025, 09:40 AM)
But with full bit, what is the performance compare to chatgpt? Same or even higher than chatgpt?
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the competitor for o1

but of course doesn't have image generation and video generation capability under this deepseek r1.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 29 2025, 12:02 PM)
the competitor for o1

but of course doesn't have image generation and video generation capability under this deepseek r1.
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So after all? Still chatgpt win ke?
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post Jan 29 2025, 11:23 AM

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Sorry. Missed the bus.. apa guna AI setup at home? Can tell me when the collapse of crypto?
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jan 29 2025, 11:09 AM)
So after all? Still chatgpt win ke?
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if you wanna pay $200 dollars a month for unlimited o1 use lol

plus the ability to run deepseek r1 offline solves privacy issues which is very important for some users
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 29 2025, 12:52 PM)
if you wanna pay $200 dollars a month for unlimited o1 use lol

plus the ability to run deepseek r1 offline solves privacy issues which is very important for some users
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I am wondering with my house desktop setup, what version of deepseek can it use.
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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jan 29 2025, 02:00 PM)
I am wondering with my house desktop setup, what version of deepseek can it use.
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It depends on memory size. I can only answer for GPU part. If you have 24GB VRAM gpus like rtx3090, rtx4090, you can go for quantized 4 bit deepseek-r1:32b. If you have 12 or 16GB gpu then you can try 14b. 8b for 8GB gpus. But this is for the distilled version quantized 4 bit, not the full bit. full bit uses way more memory.

It can also be run on CPU only, I didn't read much about that but I saw ppl running 70b using 9950X with 64GB system memory but the response is slow. Another built a amd dual epyc system with 768GB memory that managed to run the full bit 671b with 6-8 tokens/s with total system cost at his place around 6000usd.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 29 2025, 03:08 PM)
It depends on memory size. I can only answer for GPU part. If you have 24GB VRAM gpus like rtx3090, rtx4090, you can go for quantized 4 bit deepseek-r1:32b. If you have 12 or 16GB gpu then you can try 14b. 8b for 8GB gpus. But this is for the distilled version quantized 4 bit, not the full bit. full bit uses way more memory.

It can also be run on CPU only, I didn't read much about that but I saw ppl running 70b using 9950X with 64GB system memory but the response is slow. Another built a amd dual epyc system with 768GB memory that managed to run the full bit 671b with 6-8 tokens/s with total system cost at his place around 6000usd.
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Damn my GPU old let ... Rtx 3060 super I think... Can do what? Just subscribe chatgpt?
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post Jan 29 2025, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jan 29 2025, 02:10 PM)
Damn my GPU old let ... Rtx 3060 super I think... Can do what? Just subscribe chatgpt?
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gpu requirements
https://apxml.com/posts/system-requirements-deepseek-models
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post Jan 29 2025, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jan 29 2025, 02:00 PM)
I am wondering with my house desktop setup, what version of deepseek can it use.
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If you used to use the free version of ChatGPT, this won't beat it. It is already has way more parameters than what home user can (afford to) run.

QUOTE(KitZhai @ Jan 29 2025, 02:10 PM)
Damn my GPU old let ... Rtx 3060 super I think... Can do what? Just subscribe chatgpt?
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Run 14b models and see which one works best for you. That's it. At this model size, there is nothing that can know everything.

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jan 28 2025, 03:34 PM)
arguably, this is like back during mining trend? people buy hundreds and thousands of GPUs just to mine the hell out of it plus the insane electric bill monthly
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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 29 2025, 03:20 PM)
I can go for lowest tier sad

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