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 is 300k-500k saving is not enough for retired?

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TSlatipbogiba
post Jan 28 2025, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jan 28 2025, 11:18 AM)
actually raw material cost in kampung are not cheaper. if house already paid, the cost living will be around the same.
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just pay water electricity bills.
no need wifi, astro. just use mobile phone.
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post Jan 28 2025, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jan 28 2025, 11:24 AM)
just pay water electricity bills.
no need wifi, astro. just use mobile phone.
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if already retired, just live frugally la.
who want to talk in the back said this old people unmeployed la, useless la, etc.
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post Jan 28 2025, 11:26 AM

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Not enough. 350k at 5% dividend rate can get you 1.5k monthly only.

That's below b40 level
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post Jan 28 2025, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jan 28 2025, 11:26 AM)
if already retired, just live frugally la.
who want to talk in the back said this old people unmeployed la, useless la, etc.
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i imagine the scenario of pensioner is like,
morning go kebun kejap sejam dua. petang lepak dengan kawan yang belum mati. malam lepak surau.

QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 28 2025, 11:26 AM)
Not enough. 350k at 5% dividend rate can get you 1.5k monthly only.

That's below b40 level
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1.5k paying nothing tak cukup?
old people dont eat much. entertainment pun tak layan sangat
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post Jan 28 2025, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jan 28 2025, 11:26 AM)
Not enough. 350k at 5% dividend rate can get you 1.5k monthly only.

That's below b40 level
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but then again you got of tons of money, but you cant eat much, you are lacking of energy, no mood to travel. not much point either.
also you can spend the whole fund as fallback, why must limited to interest only?
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post Jan 28 2025, 11:32 AM

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Gentingkan ada. 1 kali kena. Siap selama-lamanya.
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post Jan 28 2025, 11:35 AM

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500K upon retirement ???..... DEPOPZ liao lor....

5mil Ktard standard if wanna live in KV area... if not keje sampaii matii

2-3mil doable in kampung...

500K doable in jungle...

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post Jan 28 2025, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jan 28 2025, 11:29 AM)
i imagine the scenario of pensioner is like,
morning go kebun kejap sejam dua. petang lepak dengan kawan yang belum mati. malam lepak surau.
1.5k paying nothing tak cukup?
old people dont eat much. entertainment pun tak layan sangat
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jan 28 2025, 11:30 AM)
but then again you got of tons of money, but you cant eat much, you are lacking of energy, no mood to travel. not much point either.
also you can spend the whole fund as fallback, why must limited to interest only?
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Ayam target retire at 55 also, target 3 million epf and other savings.
5% dividend will net around 12k per month for spending

Of course priority is different, when retire:
1) I want to be able to belanja my grand kids
2) pigi holiday bring family
3) travel sana sini look see got what interesting
4) drive BMW or Merc

1.5k not enough lor

And when retire at 55, I plan to work at non stress job. Like drive grab, volunteer cleaner, etc etc. Because mind still need to use, if no use later become senile
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post Jan 28 2025, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jan 28 2025, 11:10 AM)
the scenario is you are 55 or maybe 60.
house loan settled. even you have another house at kampung, also settled.
car loan settled.
at 55 all your loans settled.
your kids all ady grown up and they live independently
and then you pencen with, let say 350k in saving and/or investment, just for yourself and/or with spouse

i think it is enough enjoy a bit and put the rest in investment or fd or whatever compounding.
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really gila

Even if got 3-4 mil also have to be cautious to retire
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post Jan 28 2025, 11:55 AM

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Use epf app to estimate money when you retire based on current salary, increment level, bonus level etc.

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post Jan 28 2025, 11:56 AM

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depends on your living standard, for me, i think 10k per month is comfortable, so i have to aim for 4M @ 4% return/annum.

Based on my estimation, if i can tolerate with work stress till 60, then i can retire with 10M, that should be more than enough.
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post Jan 28 2025, 11:59 AM

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post Jan 28 2025, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jan 28 2025, 11:22 AM)
than we need to set date when to die also in the retirement plan
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Another way to look at it is… if your monthly expense is RM10k.

Then your investment (cannot withdraw) return needs to yield 5% per annum i.e. 2.4M.

So without worrying when you will die you will have 10k per month to spend.

Meanwhile 2.4M (at 10k per month) can last only 20 years depending you dont open spend on crap and con by friends/family …

This post has been edited by p4n6: Jan 28 2025, 12:10 PM
LamboSama
post Jan 28 2025, 12:21 PM

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There are people who live with less. Not comfortable but still living.
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post Jan 28 2025, 12:23 PM

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i think.. if all loans settled.. hubby and wife.. 3-5000 per month will be ok..
anything less,will be a little stressful
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post Jan 28 2025, 12:24 PM

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Enough if you planned to RIP at age 56
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post Jan 28 2025, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Jan 28 2025, 11:13 AM)
usually at that age, u will have some sort of a health problem. if unlucky, multiple.

if u totally healthy no issues and u don't spend like crazy maybe.

if u r not healthy, can't last long with that money alone
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If totally healthy live too long pun maybe got financial problem.
Inb4 got anak, no problem.
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post Jan 28 2025, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Jan 28 2025, 11:10 AM)
the scenario is you are 55 or maybe 60.
house loan settled. even you have another house at kampung, also settled.
car loan settled.
at 55 all your loans settled.
your kids all ady grown up and they live independently
and then you pencen with, let say 350k in saving and/or investment, just for yourself and/or with spouse

i think it is enough enjoy a bit and put the rest in investment or fd or whatever compounding.
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are u talking about today or 10 20 years in the future? u also need to be more specific with lifestyle. how often eat out? do u plan to just sit at home all year/every year or go traveling? are u frugal or spender?

This post has been edited by annoymous1234: Jan 28 2025, 12:30 PM
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post Jan 28 2025, 12:30 PM

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500k all in nvidia, goreng to 3m then cukup
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post Jan 28 2025, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(KenM @ Jan 28 2025, 12:23 PM)
i think.. if all loans settled.. hubby and wife.. 3-5000 per month will be ok..
anything less,will be a little stressful
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I have seen that retired hub and wife use less 2k for monthly expense in. that is in perak.

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