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 Do you mind if your gf/ wife earns more than you?

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post Mar 12 2025, 03:09 PM

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Hmm, not sure if the thread is still active, but in a story telling mode, so here goes

I met my husband in college, so there's no way to tell who is going to earn more in the future. It is not an important factor to me, but I recognise this being a societal expectation and can strain our relationship due to men ego

Our career path is different, and somewhat uneven; for half the time my pay is more than his, as at today, he earns more than me, but I would say, by Msia standard, we make good income and live comfortably

My husband did not make a big deal out of me earning more when I do, just teasingly talk about it in front of kids and say I should pay for more stuffs. We don't do 50:50, we just have a system of this is what you pay and and what I pay. I also organise and pay for all the holiday bookings, which I don't think he realise how expensive it gets, he will pay for ground costs when we are there

Does it get into his ego? My guess is a little bit. Other than to his boss, where he use my pay as a package negotiation, he doesnt tell any friends or family that I make more. I don't mind it since I have always kept a low profile of my pay and position. But I do wish he is proud of what I've achieve professionally, which I don't feel that he does. I also do not have lavish lifestyle or much luxury items so it's not obvious.

I have friends where the wife makes significantly more than their husbands, it's not easy at all. Quite a few of them got divorced or having thoughts to get divorced. I do know a guy with a very successful wife who love his wife to bits and brave through the societal pressure he has to face. It's not easy at all.

Btw, I think it's 2 different things - the guys think they will be happy that their wives make more than them, and when they are living that as a reality
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post Mar 17 2025, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 16 2025, 10:11 PM)
Some women (or most?), when they become more successful than their partners, will start to look down on their men. They lose respect. When respect is lost, then the marriage becomes an empty shell.
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I think the question is - Why did the husband did not do as well

If it is because he chose a noble cause in life and pursuing career based on his passion; eg: participate in Doctors without border, work for gov hosp although could come out to be specialist in private hospitals because he can help more people - I cannot imagine the wife not being supportive, both emotionally and monetary wise; or the husband is in gov service and couldn't go far because he has integrity and refused to take bribes or do whatever the boss demands so he can be promoted.

But if he didn't make much because he refused to put in effort and do the best he can in his career, then is it so wrong that the wife lose respect? Especially if the wife tries to advise him on how to progress and go far in his career

Of course, on the flip side, if the wife is willing to do whatever to make more $$$, obviously it's not going to work well even in the first category I just described
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post Mar 19 2025, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Mar 18 2025, 10:33 PM)
I wish she does.

but until now, I still earn 4x her pay.
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I don't know what is the point of this reply other than to brag. Come back when your other half earns similar amount as you, don't have to be higher or 4 times, and tell us if you feel the same way
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post Mar 19 2025, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Mar 17 2025, 07:57 PM)
The "allowance" part was my way of describing how the working partner hands money to the other, but my intention was not to put the working partner on an authority, my bad. So you're right it sounds unfair, perhaps this is a better way manage it: suppose you have a joint account where both have equal access to the same pool of money.

Still, the feeling of using your own money to splurge for another will not be the same as using the joint pool -- maybe there'll be some hint of guilt, because this is after all a jointly owned money; it's a shared responsibility. I guess this arrangement will work well when both are equally responsible + aligned on how to split the pie, otherwise there'll be disasters like on the news: a housewife fell into a scam and depleted the family savings.

Lastly, I heard this from my bf but idk how other men think: it's in men's nature to want to protect and care for their woman. He cannot accept non-full ownership of the money (i.e. his own hard earned money) because he wouldn't be able to freely pamper me and feel proud. Aiya a bit touched la after hearing that, how can I accept househusbandry after he said that 😂
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Perhaps your bf should understand that it is not just monetary or material things that will make you feel loved, but the gift could be in the form of something really thoughtful but not necessarily expensive; like getting you a good neck pillow if you travel a lot, a silk pillow case so you don't have hair loss from friction or messy hair in the morning
Or it could be a service type gift like giving you a nice massage, takeover the kitchen for a week, takeover the chores etc

That way hopefully it doesn't strain his finances as much
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post Mar 19 2025, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Mar 18 2025, 12:43 PM)
What you said above is only practical if the man and woman were already a couple before they started working. Of course the wife will not simply leave the husband just like that, let's say the woman has managed to climb higher than the husband although the husband is also equally working hard.

But let's say the man is in the process of courting a woman and if the man is in a low paying profession (eg a teacher or some NGO worker). Will you accept him assuming you are holding a managerial/directorial post high up in the ladder? I dare to say 9 out of 10 ladies will not. The woman will definitely look down on the man. Common sense of course because she will be looking for a guy with a higher earning ability.
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To be honest, when I read this reply, I mostly felt annoyed because there's so much victim mindset in it. I cannot get the girl not because I'm not good enough, but it's because women are materialistic, they only want ppl who earn more than them, it's all women's fault.

I can understand why a lot of successful women go for men who are more successful than them, because this fragile male ego thing is just exhausting, and they tend to have better things to spend their time on. Especially after a few bad experiences.

Besides, if the women has been successful and single for a while, you can't expect her to hide her wealth and success just to make men look good, she would likely be unwilling to.

If more men can practice what they say - be proud and supportive of their other half who are more successful than them in career and wealth; then maybe the situation can improve. Besides, all of us needs to be less defined by our career and wealth, so that we don't feel that is the only thing that validate if we are successful in life or not.

I feel that this is not a prevalent issue in Malaysia, you see a lot more of this problem in Singapore partly due to national service requirement for Singaporean men; and more equal career opportunities to women in Singapore.

 

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