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Jason
post Feb 4 2025, 11:30 AM

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Mind? Where can I find a gf/wife who earns more than me? I will gladly resign, be stay at home husband, and tell everybody including my neighbors, my dog, my neighbor's dog, that my wife earns yo!
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post Feb 5 2025, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 5 2025, 01:30 PM)
somewhere above, TS has already revealed her opinion on men who earned less than women.

She said men are leeching on women if the husband earns less than the wife.  rolleyes.gif
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Thank god that's just her one opinion, and not that of the entire female population. Previous posters have gave very elaborate breakdown, but let me take a simple jab.

An individual is not measured only by the income they make, but that's the easiest metric to measure an individual.

What if the guy works for a non-profit, draws just enough salary to make a decent living and dedicate his life to help others? Or the guy is just a teacher at a government school? I have the utmost respect, for people who dedicate their lives to cause above monetary gains, and that their goal is to help other people. If everybody also care about earning as the one and only objective, government hospitals will have 0 doctors.

So, because his gf/wife is a superstar insurance/property/bitcoin sales agent who make 5x to 10x what he makes, it is a problem? Wow that's really shallow.

And men leeching on women? What happened to the females who champion equality? hahaha.. some women. they want to win all arguments even when it is mutually exclusive

Oh, my personal opinion, men and women are not equals, women are far superior, they can give birth.
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post Feb 6 2025, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Feb 5 2025, 09:35 PM)
out of 10 women, 9 will not be happy if their husbands earn less than them.

this is the sad inconvenient truth.

most men who earn less than their spouse will suffer, either openly or in silence.

all over the world, most women expect their partner to earn more and practice the gospel truth that his money is our money and my money is my money
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And I expect her to look like supermodel and be a superstar in my bed. I confirm earn way more than her.

Then I’m labeled as objectifying women.

Hahaha how la? Cannot win one. 😆
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post Mar 17 2025, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Zero Correlation @ Mar 12 2025, 03:09 PM)

Btw, I think it's 2 different things - the guys think they will be happy that their wives make more than them, and when they are living that as a reality
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The guys who have issues with that reality, is their ego eating at them. Because traditionally and societal norm it is expected that the guy bring the dough.

As a guy I feel if my wife makes significantly more than me, I can be the house husband.

If friends, family, even random people say to my face “oh so you’re living off your wife, eating soft rice, eating slipper rice”

I will proudly answer yes, my wife is capable and she is happy to serve me soft rice on a slipper. Got anybody wanna let you eat slipper rice?

Simply because if my wife is that capable, I’d be hella proud and let everyone know.

Your husband is reaping the benefits of your higher salary yet his ego is having an issue accepting it. End of the day when 2 people are together the biggest issue is unmet expectations. Clearly he expects you to pay more yet at the same time conflicting expectations of actually accepting it. If you know your husband ego besar, just praise him on other things lah. Say some praises cost nothing and makes everybody happy.
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post Mar 17 2025, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 16 2025, 10:11 PM)
Some women (or most?), when they become more successful than their partners, will start to look down on their men. They lose respect. When respect is lost, then the marriage becomes an empty shell.
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Money doesn’t change a person. It just amplifies who you already are.

If you’re an a55. Money just makes you a bigger one. Likewise with nice generous people. They just become more generous.

The woman already feel she can do better than (settling for) the man. When she is more successful she just feel she has more resources to choose. That’s all.

Ask Zero Correlation would she leave her husband if she were to make 10x more money tomorrow? I doubt it. And if she wanted to leave him but haven’t, then the money just enables her to do so.
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post Mar 17 2025, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Mar 17 2025, 03:24 PM)
Maybe there's some ego in it, but I think it's much more than that.


As far as how the man himself feels, usually its the ego. Societal norm/view also ties back to how he feels about it. Clearly, he is in the position of being a househusband due to reasons that is private to him and his wife. Men's ego very fragile, lol. While I am firmly aware of it and keep it in check, it's there.

QUOTE(Takudan @ Mar 17 2025, 03:24 PM)
So how will you treat your partner in your date nights? Sure we can flip the genders and say it's same as housewives receiving allowance from husband, and they can allocate an amount to treat their partner on special days.

It's very common to assume you can accept certain things until you're really in that position. I used to think I'd be okay to be the breadwinner when I saw him earning less even after working lots of overtime, but his argument convinced me:
- my bf likes to pamper me, he feels happy doing that
- I like to be pampered too
The dynamic just won't be the same if I give him money for him to give me back, because I prefer to save money and tell him he's spending too much on me. If he receives less money then he would lose the freedom to splurge on me because I would then cut the allowance (and it'd probably become a tug of war where he further skimps on himself in unhealthy ways just to spend on me).


But what you described is simply a flip from the normal husband working/housewife script, no? If housewife treats husband to a date night with her allowance, that's fine with men, yet it doesn't sit well for you in the reverse? Hahaha cut the allowance... he is not your child that you are penalizing him for spending money on comics.. he is a grown adult. And the most important keyword in that sentence, he is not your child, yet your stance is viewing him in a lesser position as he doesn't make the money -- which I frown upon when men does this to their wives! You need to respect him as your peer even when he spends your money! I preach the same for the reverse, even if the wife doesn't work and spend the husband's money, he must respect her as a peer. She is not lesser or contributes less. Because money is not the unit of measure.

QUOTE(Takudan @ Mar 17 2025, 03:24 PM)
In the end, each couple has different viewpoint on money/finance. I'll admit it's easier to go with the flow / societal norm for now, because there's already so many past couples who did that and it worked (hence, the norm). Maybe that will change later, say if we have kids then the dynamics will change a lot, it might make sense to have a housewife/househusband especially if the time spent on earning  the paycheck can be better used to take care of the house.
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This we can agree on. I think a couple should sit down and be frank about money, how they each view it and what's the expectation from the partner so that they align on it. I do not believe in marriage that finances are separate, because if 1 manages finances badly and the spouse is adept, then? Need to cover gaps for the partner? That is grossly unfair. When 2 mature adults get married, they are no longer just responsible for themselves, but for their partner, their children, their parent in-law, and money is the finite resource that is required.


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post Mar 26 2025, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Mar 19 2025, 12:12 PM)
I'm just asking a simple question.

If a man (let's say male school teacher) is pursuing a high flying corporate lady (eg. C level suite), will she accept him?

So, now you are saying that most women will not accept him because of a fragile male ego. And most men are not supportive of their wife if the wife earns more.

I find this a new perspective.
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I think she might if he fulfills other aspects of her wants. E.g. finds his stories of students fascinating and funny, finds him attentive and good with kids, envisions him as the father of her child and having the patience and knowledge to educate and nurture the children — so she can focus on her career. It might tick her boxes.

If she wants a high flying man, then it is tough, cause the man got his own money, don’t need hers so that’s off the table.

Keep in mind, high flying capable men can provide, and thus have a lot of options. And they would likely choose the attractive looking woman. Don’t believe me? Just look at the wives of rich successful men. Again, statistics, majority is the keyword. There are always exceptions, and some men find whales attractive so there’s that.

An attractive looking woman is more desirable than a high flying corporate lady to most men. Thus we can conclude that the man who wants her probably likes her for her money or likes her for who she is. Then the question comes, is she okay that he likes her for her money?

The saying goes.. you choose people, people choose you. The man with most money has the widest range of options, and the best looking woman has the most propositions — not the woman with most money. Simple supply & demand. Economics.

 

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