But China market so huge impossible can't beat 16.61 millions units. Did the data excluded China sales ?

not hard to believe. all the brands you mentioned are not officially sold in the west.

So that means when it comes to flagship Fon, Samsung is king ?

err no. means chinese phones cant enter into western markets?

Dunno but EU market got Chinese Fon not sure about USA market though

not all the brands. alternative android flagships in the US are Pixel and OnePlus only

Within China market still need to compete with iPhone, and iPhone sales in China remains high. if China suddenly ban iPhone and only allow local brand then yes possible

I think American don't even know what is Oppo, vivo or realme at all

Impossible China will ban iPhone, their peasants will rage like Tiananmen 1989 again.

China market is huge and they have SO MANY different brands competing. You listed some of them yourself. So the market gets cut up into many many slices (this isn't even taking into account the behemoth that Apple is in that market).

Ya apple is big in China but Huawei is making a return there

Noticed the lens, it's glued to the body not unibody together, that's why some Fon got water damage. Samsung is smart right,💸water damage warranty automatically void

I think the 7 years update plus green line is the best strategy. People buy for the 7 years yet forced to upgrade because of the green line.

Although Samsung are IP68 rated but it still has limitations.

Not even 1 year OLED spoiled & need to wait till now 2025 only Samsung acknowledge it & repair & it's not free have to pay labour charges around RM 90. Easy money for Samsung

The lens are glued the back cover are glued if both failed then GGWP the IP68 ratings

Give me 8 Elite 3 with 1nm chip also I wouldn't buy another Samsung flagship

they only claim water and dust resistant... not waterproof...

Samsung Fon usually only IP68. Meanwhile China Fon up to IP69. Not really sure what it means in real life. All I know once I put my Note 8 into a bucket of water & it start to random reboot heats up reboot again non stop. That's where I realized Samsung ads about water resistant or water proof of their Fon is misleading abit.

actually a simple google search then you will get your answer.

IP68 or IP69 are both not water PROOF. only water RESISTANT. both ratings will void warranty if water somehow get into the phone .
how is it misleading? the s25 is indeed IP68 rated.


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Hater as usual speak nonsense without facts

There's no waterproof phones out there unless is specialised heavy duty phone or waterproof casing

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jul 9 2025, 09:19 PM

I am able to get S25 ultra 256gb with free watch 7 Bluetooth 40mm at rm4860 from Samsung shop app.

May I know if this is good deal and how's the quality of S25 Ultra? Or makes sense to wait next year for S26 ultra?