Tenant have default payment for more than 3 months.

messaged him,also no reply. Call, no pick.up

what should i do.? landed House, no acccess card.

This post has been edited by teacherharvard: Dec 29 2024, 10:35 PM

Continue let your tenant to stay in until responded to your texts

I assume your property is at other state?

Do you have tenancy agreement?

not far away only.

40 min distance.

No tenancy agreement

Faster cut utilities...
Otherwise u deposit also gone

hahaha i have similar situation before many times.. and hate to say all of them that do this in my case is not chinese , only thing you can do is find them and talk to them face to face talk until everything is clear. if they still not pay up month after month then is time to find another tenant

need to warn them? scared destroy house....

No tenancy agreement is already a red flag.

And you should have intervened earlier, not wait until 3 months of non-payment.

Any IC, photo of the tenant? Many things you can do if you have these, lodge a police report, threaten to cut water and electricity etc.

Being too nice doesn't pay you well.

Yes, u r correct. I don't have.

i also think being too Nice...

block access card.

Take a drive there to check the place out first, maybe already moved out, hopefully not die inside.

No agreement means the tenants also no need to pay the rent. Plus, they can damage the house as they like.

Why? No proof of docs they must pay rent or keep the property pristine like Day 1. Don't play2.

Better u kick them out before they burn down the property later.

Why didn't you go see yourself?

And don't go alone.

Bring a friend or a family member

You should have taken action after 1st month default.
Now not even replying you and 3mths default...
Good luck buddy

still using electricity lo.

because I.admit hospital. I.didn't chase .... my WRONG also la.

how u resolve d case?

Yes, better chase them out or make a proper agreement.
They might use the premise illegally, ie prostitution den, drug store etc and as owner you are liable because no agreement.

U can’t do anything to him and u have no right to enter the house. Good luck ts. Only way is u bow down to him and say sorry

cut utilities lor, if not sell the house

Halau them. Better now than later
If you wait, more loss at ur side

Consider the loss as a stupid fee
Next time filter ur tenant, woth valod tenancy agreement
But it is still based on ur luck. Better something than nothing

I sold my house last year because of stupid tenant, although got valid agreement. Cut air/tnb no work, much hassle

This ah you worried the most? Ur tenant can be dead inside your house lor. Confirm he is not dead yet then worry about the rest.

maybe you can bring a friend who is the same race as the tenant to talk to them in native language and resolve peacefully? what race of friend you should bring along?

resolve peacefully means ?

walaowei.. no paperwork - MAJOR RED FLAG
mau jimat stamp duty pun bukan ini macam leh - like legit, there is no LEGAL documentation between both parties

if it were me (oh god why, touchwood) step by step
1. since no comms response, GO visit the property (strongly suggest bring a friend or TWO along and when you are there, TAKE PICTURES/record video)
...1(a) The purpose is for YOU to see if they still staying there and the condition of the property.
...1(b) If they are there, talk face to face - i'd tell them to move out within 7 days from the day you visit
...1© If the house LOOKS abandoned, like they've left - don't masuk first.
*remember belanja your buddies makan lunch or minum teh ok?

2. AFTER visit the property, LODGE POLICE REPORT. First to state that you rented out whom and when ,THEN
...2(a) if the tenant is still there, put in your report you have given VERBAL notice for them to leave within 7 days since tak bayar
...2(b) if no one there, ask if the police can accompany you when you enter the house (like fellow forumer said, maybe dieded inside already)
...2© you may also state your intention to cut the utilities
in a way - You are building your LEGAL documentation now - so if shit (paiseh mod, pls dont ban me, just expression) hit the celing, you got some black and white

3. Once the visit and report made
...3(a) well, if they are still there after 7 days - you gotta pay but serve them legal letter (eviction or something), then proceed to terminate the utilities
...3(b) be prepared cost-wise, there is a chance they will leave but only after making a huge mess

anyway, just my 2 cents, hopefully if you do meet them - everything can be settled amicably - win win both sides

Your patient level not bad, still can wait for 3 months. thumb up

For me, I always buy condo as investment properties as oppose to house.

Why?

Because whenever tenant don't pay, I can block access card.

Blocking their TNB and water bill, may cause issues, as tenant has right to access, they can sue you.

Latest trend is to go and remove all doors and windows.

Maybe hire some people to go live in there with them, say that's your new tenant.

I basically ruining your own property

Telephone neighbor and check
Drive there if no reply for more than 7 days
If house is empty, send a formal message to tenant that you go in

technically no agreement means they are intruder right? lmao.. u can just report police and break the door haha

Y U no tenancy agreement?
then again... it will be your advantage also - just kick him out of your house.
if got deposit - use it to change locks.

no easy way.. but the best thing to do is to find them face to face talk straight to the point until they understand what you need them to do as a tenant or else you say you will find another tenant if they still don't pay up.. since you said you have no agreement with them and don't expect them to pay up the past 3 month rental to you cause they obviously cant for obvious reason ( no money or they just not afraid not to pay )

but renting is like this la..sometime will not so lucky get this kind a tenant..

Renting here is pain in the ass especially tenant not paying. Even with tenancy agreement, all the hassle to apply court order etc if follow proper law.

Since no tenancy, u go there and ask him when he is going to pay rent, else kick him out.

because previously,wit tenancy agreements,doesn't help... in my case

I'm thinking that if tenancy agreement never existed, u can actually use it to your advantage. u can cut water and electricity at your own will. u can also lodge a report for intrusion. however, u need to face the consequences of tenant doing bad things.

Bring people go there....say new tenant want see house

Keep us updated, curious as well

User name checked out

I curious where Ts got the idea of not requiring TA from

messaged him, called him, no reply.

went there, not at home. maybe time not right. but,they are staying there wit parcel on d floor.

Move in and live with them until they move out. Everyday bring in prospective 'tenants' for inspection, friends. Play loud annoying music, prayer, chanting, etc. Annoy the F out of them.

This post has been edited by Peace888: Jan 15 2025, 01:52 AM

i think u have to get ready and speak to them properly, perhaps ask the neighbour if they are still there?

im not sure if u have the right to move everything out if they are not home.

do you have access to the house or they already change the lock?

u have to get ready to really speak to them.. perhaps during weekend. else u will just get there and back home for many months to come.

This post has been edited by NoobHacker: Jan 14 2025, 11:09 PM

Hire people everyday to pour red paint, very fast he/she will contact you

find gangster

I've been renting my houses for more than 20 yrs. This thing never disappointed. Fast, cheap, proven

u mean lock water supply?

Just reduce the water flow to 25%. Don't shut it off totally or faces basis human rights charges.

All the more reason why I don't do renting

Ur best bet is talk to them and sort out peacefully

Before you stop water u give reminder will stop at bla..bla..date. will not be responsible bla..bla.

If he want to press charge let it be..rental also cannot pay wanna engage lawyer? I deal with few defaulters for the past 20 yrs..never once they bising² I lock the water meter. Once pipe locked they will automatically call u to deal the payment. Mostly because their wife bising² cannot cook wash etc.

But it up to you..If u willing to be bullied by tenant then let them stay la with no consequences

Police report. No pay rental. Want to masuk check your own house. Scared got people die inside. Then got reason to bang the house door

Block access card. Block water. Block electricity

My lil sis kena this headache before. 2 storey link house no g&g.

Really hard and problematic to settle.

can meh?

U ask JBA to control 25% flow ?

don't buy shop lot

rent condo easier.

because can block access card.

No choice. Make police report, cut water, cut electricity. Give notoce and paste police report on the door.

Access card can be clone lah

Just throttle the inlet valve to 25% and lock it la.
At least this is more humane than totally no water.

This post has been edited by Singh_Kalan: Jan 16 2025, 09:30 PM

actually by law can we do so? get somebody to live in with them since it's your house you have the say and they can't object it or can you move in yourself it's not consider intrusion right?

This post has been edited by quintesson: Jan 16 2025, 10:33 PM

true true.

but that's a first step.

once the tenant felt it, macam 1st warning, he knows landlord will do the next step: electricity and water cut.

if condo can

but house, tenant has control of inlet?

actually this works...but my case the other way round

he really borrow ah long and scared run away over night ...