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post Dec 27 2024, 11:43 AM, updated 12 months ago

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Which condo, both developed and under construction, that has provision for installation of EV chargers at individual parking lot...let's list them for everyone's knowledge.

This list can also include condo that has already agreed/ been approved for installation of EV chargers by unit owners at their own parking lots or even condo with where owner has successfully installed their own EV charger at their own lots.

This post has been edited by EddyHyip: Dec 27 2024, 11:57 AM
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post Dec 27 2024, 01:04 PM

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Bon Kiara (Mont Kiara) under con.
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post Dec 27 2024, 02:31 PM

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Is this even possible? Currently the % of EV cars compared to ICE cars are low. When there are many EV cars, can the system handle the load?
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post Dec 27 2024, 04:22 PM

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later everyone change to EV, power grid cannot tahan LOL
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post Dec 27 2024, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(W.ROOK @ Dec 27 2024, 01:04 PM)
Bon Kiara (Mont Kiara) under con.
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IIRC, this condo provide 2 parking for each unit, 1 is normal parking at upper floor, and EV parking at G floor. The EV parking must be at G floor because it's a Bomba requirement.
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post Dec 28 2024, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Dec 27 2024, 11:12 PM)
IIRC, this condo provide 2 parking for each unit, 1 is normal parking at upper floor, and EV parking at G floor. The EV parking must be at G floor because it's a Bomba requirement.
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"Every unit comes with dedicated EV plug and charge port to encourage sustainable living"

Extract from Bon Kiara website.


Not sure about the Bomba requirement. FYI In Duta Park Residence, the EV charging stations are at level 9.
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post Dec 28 2024, 06:02 PM

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The EV charging requires higher power requirements , it is not easy for existing condo to apply to TNB to upgrade as well as for condo to lay new high rated power cables to each parking bay (imagine the cabling will look like- this is not those extension cable we saw but bigger one)

New development maybe they consider laying the higher grade cables to each bay…

Every condo can have 1k-2k parking bays, it does not make sense for every one to have it … like shopping mall, not every bays have it.

Therefore, sharing EV charging stations more feasible …
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post Dec 29 2024, 03:15 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Dec 28 2024, 06:02 PM)
The EV charging requires higher power requirements , it is not easy for existing condo to apply to TNB to upgrade as well as for condo to lay new high rated power cables to each parking bay (imagine the cabling will look like- this is not those extension cable we saw but bigger one)

New development maybe they consider laying the higher grade cables to each bay…

Every condo can have 1k-2k parking bays, it does not make sense for every one to have it … like shopping mall, not every bays have it.

Therefore, sharing EV charging stations more feasible …
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Honestly, i don’t want to share. I don’t have mood to monitor that the charger is in use or vacant. When I come home after work I don’t want to think, just park and plug. And I don’t want to come back down to unplug my car and move it so other ppl can use.

I think what the condo can do is provide 13A plug for the parking, and have shared fast charger on ground floor. 3kW slow charger can give you 30kW in 10 hours while you sleep. Good enough for most people daily use. And if you need to juice up fast, go for the shared DC charger.
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post Dec 29 2024, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Dec 29 2024, 03:15 AM)
Honestly, i don’t want to share. I don’t have mood to monitor that the charger is in use or vacant. When I come home after work I don’t want to think, just park and plug. And I don’t want to come back down to unplug my car and move it so other ppl can use.

I think what the condo can do is provide 13A plug for the parking, and have shared fast charger on ground floor. 3kW slow charger can give you 30kW in 10 hours while you sleep. Good enough for most people daily use. And if you need to juice up fast, go for the shared DC charger.
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If is slow charging plug point, usually the management will charge the owner of bay based on consumption and one time installation, will have issue neighbour leech on yours when you not around… i think ev charger can set password but not those conventional plug point…

Conventional plug if for every parking bay will also increase overall power consumption and load, management of condo also need to apply from TNB for upgrade + one time cost …


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post Dec 30 2024, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Dec 27 2024, 11:12 PM)
IIRC, this condo provide 2 parking for each unit, 1 is normal parking at upper floor, and EV parking at G floor. The EV parking must be at G floor because it's a Bomba requirement.
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If I'm not mistaken, if EV chargers design location were approved before new bomba rules, the chargers will follow original plan.

(if condo, though, would like for example modernize or change the charges, as in redo for example with new charging power, then they need to relocate them to G floor ho ho)
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post Dec 30 2024, 01:14 PM

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Any PPR flat got EV charger?
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post Dec 30 2024, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(W.ROOK @ Dec 28 2024, 01:01 PM)
"Every unit comes with dedicated EV plug and charge port to encourage sustainable living"

Extract from Bon Kiara website.
Not sure about the Bomba requirement. FYI In Duta Park Residence, the EV charging stations are at level 9.
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my 5 year old condo says cannot install ev charger at own parking as there is no wiring built in. Then there is a risk of fire and they don't have plans to do so. Charging can only be done at level 2 with 2-3 chargers operating at 2kw...
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post Dec 30 2024, 05:07 PM

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Following this, as I am also keen to talk to the developer for the installation.
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post Dec 30 2024, 09:20 PM

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the gomen only allowed 100k+ ev to masuk, this clearly says they not intend to 'popularize' the ev yet in Malaysia

so, i speculate the chance seeing gomen to make policy to make ev common is small

policy like to relax the local authority/bomba/tnb requirement to allow more charging station in condo, let alone ppr
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QUOTE(EddyHyip @ Dec 27 2024, 11:43 AM)
Which condo, both developed and under construction, that has provision for installation of EV chargers at individual parking lot...let's list them for everyone's knowledge.

This list can also include condo that has already agreed/ been approved for installation of EV chargers by unit owners at their own parking lots or even condo with where owner has successfully installed their own EV charger at their own lots.
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Interesting tered, aside from the electrical wiring, I am more keen to know how different the fire preventive measures will be.
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post Jan 13 2025, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(rayeonlee @ Jan 10 2025, 05:26 PM)
Interesting tered, aside from the electrical wiring, I am more keen to know how different the fire preventive measures will be.
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You may google Bomba EV charging. Bomba has outlined the requirement for EV charging station inside building, which is quite stringent.

Other than electrical wiring and fire preventive measures, there are some other things need to consider as well e.g. your property insurance.

Does your property insurer allow individual to install EV charging station? If fire break out, the damage covered by the property insurer? Or car insurance?

Also, if the property electrical infra only can support up to certain number of station, how to allocate it? First come first serve basis? Or balloting basis? You know lar, some people very kiasu, when see other people got, they also want. "Why he can get, why I cannot get?"


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QUOTE(whitejack @ Jan 13 2025, 04:39 PM)
You may google Bomba EV charging. Bomba has outlined the requirement for EV charging station inside building, which is quite stringent.

Other than electrical wiring and fire preventive measures, there are some other things need to consider as well e.g. your property insurance.

Does your property insurer allow individual to install EV charging station? If fire break out, the damage covered by the property insurer? Or car insurance?

Also, if the property electrical infra only can support up to certain number of station, how to allocate it? First come first serve basis? Or balloting basis? You know lar, some people very kiasu, when see other people got, they also want. "Why he can get, why I cannot get?"
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post Jan 13 2025, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(ChouTofu @ Dec 30 2024, 01:12 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, if EV chargers design location were approved before new bomba rules, the chargers will follow original plan.

(if condo, though, would like for example modernize or change the charges, as in redo for example with new charging power, then they need to relocate them to G floor ho ho)
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If the EV charging station approved before new Bomba rules, Bomba given two years to the property to comply. The new rules first started Sep 2023, means the existing property need to comply by Sep 2025, this year.

Not necessary all EV charging station must installed at G floor.
Only DC charging station need to be installed at G floor or 4 levels above G floor or 3 levels below G floor.

AC charging station can be installed at any floor, but need to comply some Bomba requirements.

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post Jan 13 2025, 04:57 PM

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The power requirements for overnight charging should be lower.
You don't need ad DC 150kW at your parking spot.

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QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ Jan 13 2025, 04:57 PM)
The power requirements for overnight charging should be lower.
You don't need ad DC 150kW at your parking spot.

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lower power chargers work for overnight charging scenarios, but 150kW charger at your parking spot gives flexibility and convenience esp during unexpected moments when you need a speedy topup or only have so little time to charge. for shared parking spaces, it will really reduce wait times and congestion. my dua sen
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post Jan 26 2025, 10:50 PM

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Tuju residences at jalan kuching. SA told me every carpark units will be prepare with EV infrastruture. But owner need to apply their own EV wall.
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QUOTE(Lone Wolf X @ Jan 13 2025, 04:57 PM)
The power requirements for overnight charging should be lower.
You don't need ad DC 150kW at your parking spot.

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How many 11kW charger cable could be pulled from condo db? how much cable will cost from condo db to car park?

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Dec 27 2024, 11:12 PM)
IIRC, this condo provide 2 parking for each unit, 1 is normal parking at upper floor, and EV parking at G floor. The EV parking must be at G floor because it's a Bomba requirement.
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Hmm, for my unit 3 parkings are provided. The allocated EV parking is the same floor as my other 2 parking lots
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post Feb 4 2025, 03:43 PM

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sunway flora also EV charging infra-ready

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QUOTE(freaklosophy @ Jan 26 2025, 10:50 PM)
Tuju residences at jalan kuching. SA told me every carpark units will be prepare with EV infrastruture. But owner need to apply their own EV wall.
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meaning ac charger can be installed?
AC 7kw or 22kw type charger can be install?
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QUOTE(Julia78 @ Feb 7 2025, 07:34 AM)
meaning ac charger can be installed?
AC 7kw or 22kw type charger can be install?
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According to the tuju salesperson, all car parks are ready for AC charger installation. This is the only development I’ve visited recently that comes with its own EV charger installation for individual parking bays, plus 3 public EV charging ports in the common area (if I’m not mistaken).

As for the charging capacity, I didn’t ask, but I think it should be 7kW since it’s installed at your own parking bay—can slowly charge overnight.
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QUOTE(freaklosophy @ Feb 7 2025, 04:30 PM)
According to the tuju salesperson, all car parks are ready for AC charger installation. This is the only development I’ve visited recently that comes with its own EV charger installation for individual parking bays, plus 3 public EV charging ports in the common area (if I’m not mistaken).

As for the charging capacity, I didn’t ask, but I think it should be 7kW since it’s installed at your own parking bay—can slowly charge overnight.
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So, each charging port will have individual meter? or how the electrical bill charge?
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QUOTE(Julia78 @ Feb 7 2025, 04:37 PM)
So, each charging port will have individual meter? or how the electrical bill charge?
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should be individual meter. but i dun sure about the billing way , I didn't ask to details about this...
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So, each charging port will have individual meter? or how the electrical bill charge?
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Spot on !!!

Assuming 500 units in the building, need to pull another 500 cables for EV charging from parking bay, and all the way to 500 units of individual meter (or just integrated into the unit's electricity meter 🫢 ... ). Imaging the cabling work involved for 5/6 storey of parking level. Also, imagine in future, if there is cabling problem or connection issue happened to your particular parking lot, who going to pay for checking and repairing works? That particular owner, or management???

Most important thing, safety !!!
Imagine 200 or 300 or 500 cars going on charging work at the same time, same premises, everyday .....
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post Feb 8 2025, 04:38 PM

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Spot on !!!

Assuming 500 units in the building, need to pull another 500 cables for EV charging from parking bay, and all the way to 500 units of individual meter (or just integrated into the unit's electricity meter 🫢 ... ). Imaging the cabling work involved for 5/6 storey of parking level. Also, imagine in future, if there is cabling problem or connection issue happened to your particular parking lot, who going to pay for checking and repairing works? That particular owner, or management???

Most important thing, safety !!!
Imagine 200 or 300 or 500 cars going on charging work at the same time, same premises, everyday .....
You're right to be concerned about the complexities of installing EV charging for 500 units. It's a significant undertaking! The cabling alone is a major project, but a reputable charging company will have experience in designing efficient and safe wiring solutions for large installations. They'll consider factors like load balancing to distribute power effectively and minimize the risk of overloads. They'll also be familiar with local regulations and permitting requirements, which are essential for safety and compliance.

For future maintenance and repairs, most reputable charging companies offer maintenance contracts that cover both the hardware and the installation. They should also have clear policies about who is responsible for different types of repairs. Many modern charging systems also have smart monitoring capabilities that can help diagnose problems remotely, potentially saving time and money on repairs.

You're absolutely right to prioritize safety. Charging hundreds of EVs simultaneously requires careful planning and robust safety systems. A good charging company will adhere to all relevant electrical codes and use equipment designed with safety in mind. They'll also implement load management strategies to prevent overloading the building's electrical system.

So, while the scale of the project might seem daunting, planning and engaging a reputable and experienced charging company is key. They can handle the complexities of cabling, ensure compliance with regulations, address safety concerns, and provide ongoing maintenance support.







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QUOTE(November11 @ Feb 8 2025, 10:27 AM)
Spot on !!!

Assuming 500 units in the building, need to pull another 500 cables for EV charging from parking bay, and all the way to 500 units of individual meter (or just integrated into the unit's electricity meter 🫢 ... ). Imaging the cabling work involved for 5/6 storey of parking level. Also, imagine in future, if there is cabling problem or connection issue happened to your particular parking lot, who going to pay for checking and repairing works? That particular owner, or management???

Most important thing, safety !!!
Imagine 200 or 300 or 500 cars going on charging work at the same time, same premises, everyday .....
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usually, it would happen for all charge at same time, also condo car park usually not fully parked as well.
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Westside 1,2,3 at dpc all also cannot get EV charger in common areas. Those who bought EV cars are either charging in their office or at public charging stations. So inconvenient!.
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QUOTE(November11 @ Feb 8 2025, 10:27 AM)
Spot on !!!

Assuming 500 units in the building, need to pull another 500 cables for EV charging from parking bay, and all the way to 500 units of individual meter (or just integrated into the unit's electricity meter 🫢 ... ). Imaging the cabling work involved for 5/6 storey of parking level. Also, imagine in future, if there is cabling problem or connection issue happened to your particular parking lot, who going to pay for checking and repairing works? That particular owner, or management???

Most important thing, safety !!!
Imagine 200 or 300 or 500 cars going on charging work at the same time, same premises, everyday .....
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After talking to the agent from Tuju, what I understand from him:

Basically, there will have a main port where a direct line from TNB’s facilities is pulled to. This setup isn’t cheap, and it’s almost impossible to add later on.
So what they provided is actually the mainport allows you to run cable to your own parking bay. You still need to apply if you need to install own wall EV charger at your parking bay. For those car park bay within 10M, cable installation is free. Anything beyond that will cost extra.

If you have two parking bays, you can only install one charger, and the electricity bill for the charger will be included in your regular electricity bill.

As for capacity, the main port’s load capacity isn’t unlimited. If the demand gets too high, they might limit future EV charging applications. For typical daily usage in city, one day drive 30-40km, you’d likely need to recharge every 4-5 days, not day day ma....

There’s no specific rule from Bomba about EV charging for building now, but soon or later, they will work on this. However, I believe TNB will handle it in safer way.
For Tuju, they actually separate the carpark from the main parcel, which I think makes it feel safer.









 

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