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TSwesternkl
post Dec 25 2024, 12:48 PM, updated 12 months ago

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Is AI good for future human development?
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post Dec 25 2024, 12:49 PM

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Yes no maybe
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post Dec 25 2024, 01:03 PM

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Students now should be very grateful AI exist lol
Want to find answer also can just simply ask chatgpt
I asked chatgpt to make a bunch of websites for fun. Managed to create something like functional 4chan lite and such.
Anyone who wants to start a project can ask chatgpt to give them basic template and then up to them whether they want to directly take AI's output or heavily customize it to make it not look like AI. (They'll learn a lot too)
I;ve been using AI to assist in making a base to my artwork, which then I'd cut bits here and there, rearrange it, then heavily paint over it to fit my artstyle so I see this as very, very great tool.
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post Dec 25 2024, 01:15 PM

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Adapting with the use new technology and tools has been the way of human evolution.
Car replacing the need of using legs for transportation.
Forklift replacing manual labour.
Ai replacing part of human thinking.
As always when sometime is displacing or replacing, we need to ask ourselves how much we can rely on it . What if suddenly there is breakdown can one still do the job as usual albeit a little slower.
If the answer is yes, there is not much to be worried yet.

The horror lies in the answer of Ai which coincides with the law of nature but our human mind unable to grasp the path it arrives at the answer.
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post Dec 25 2024, 01:19 PM

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just like smartphone, it depends on how you use it because AI is just another tool

if you use it to save time and learn faster, you will become better and better, just leveraging on technology

if you use it to save time and do your work instead of learning that causes less cognitive activity and stimulation, you will loose your brain processing and become less intelligent. same goes to memory as well

to give you a real life example, how often do you remember important phone numbers or use your instinct to navigate around a new place? if you are doing this lesser and lesser, your gifted brain and memory will erode as time pass by
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post Dec 25 2024, 02:41 PM

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AI can free human from specific labour especially those without value added to be utilized in other areas. My observation before AI even exist human dumb down due to society social engineering. Just look at states under PuAS and Taliban.

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post Dec 25 2024, 03:51 PM

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Even with Google there are a lot even here doesn't use Google and search before asking basic questions.

Take example of cars with so many auto function that most drivers now doesnt know about things like headlights and turn signals.
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post Dec 25 2024, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(westernkl @ Dec 25 2024, 12:48 PM)
Is AI good for future human development?
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This is a very big question.
In short, no, human brain will not 'decrease'.
Yes, AI is good for human development.

AI is another recent technology leap after the PC, the internet, and the mobile phone. This will significantly boost human productivity and worldwide GDP. However, this will widen the gap between countries that adapt to AI and those that don't, almost like living in parallel universes. This is because, currently, only a few countries and people realize AI's significant value. Some even claim that the next world order will be based on IT capability due to the enormous economic advantage. (The fictional drama "Silo" illustrates how significant IT can be in shaping society.)  

Secondly, the current generative models and LLMs are built on a self-attention structure, a fundamentally flawed approach to human language understanding. AI doesn't, and cannot, understand language the way humans do. Because of this, AI does not and cannot create, at least not in the same way humans can, by far. (You can also explore Yuval Noah Harari's ideas on AI for further insights.)

My suggestion is to just pop a few TED videos and you will know better the AI situation.


ps. can you differentiate which part of this reply is written by AI?
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post Dec 25 2024, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Dec 25 2024, 04:04 PM)
This is a very big question.
In short, no, human brain will not 'decrease'.
Yes, AI is good for human development.

AI is another recent technology leap after the PC, the internet, and the mobile phone. This will significantly boost human productivity and worldwide GDP. However, this will widen the gap between countries that adapt to AI and those that don't, almost like living in parallel universes. This is because, currently, only a few countries and people realize AI's significant value. Some even claim that the next world order will be based on IT capability due to the enormous economic advantage. (The fictional drama "Silo" illustrates how significant IT can be in shaping society.)  

Secondly, the current generative models and LLMs are built on a self-attention structure, a fundamentally flawed approach to human language understanding. AI doesn't, and cannot, understand language the way humans do. Because of this, AI does not and cannot create, at least not in the same way humans can, by far. (You can also explore Yuval Noah Harari's ideas on AI for further insights.)

My suggestion is to just pop a few TED videos and you will know better the AI situation.
ps. can you differentiate which part of this reply is written by AI?
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In other words, human society has been discussing whether technology will make human creativity obsolete for the past few decades, since the inception of the PC and the internet.

This time, it is GenAI due to its technical advancements.
At its core, the discussion remains the same.

Edit: and not to mention the inception of Guthenbug press printing and photography.

This post has been edited by Sycamore: Dec 25 2024, 04:10 PM
Lucas0323
post Dec 25 2024, 05:44 PM

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Definitely. Creativity down to drain.
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post Dec 26 2024, 01:33 AM

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i see AI as a tool, much like a calculator. not everyone wants to spend years training in a subject just to be able use it practically once in a while. often, people just want to get things done without learning all the ins and outs, and AI excels at enabling that. while the results might not always match the quality of human expertise, they’re often good enough—and fast.

personally, i never got around to learning programming, but now i can simply tell AI what i want, and it will write the script for me. if there’s an issue, i just paste the error code back, and it sorts everything out. the same applies to creating excel formulas, tidying up work emails, and more. it has been an incredibly helpful tool in my daily life.

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post Dec 26 2024, 01:40 AM

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Yes. More human don't think anymore. Just wan spoon-feed the answer.
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post Dec 26 2024, 08:08 AM

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Its a tool .

AI cannot differentiate bad data from internet .

you still have to check and tailor to your needs at the end of the day. So will still need human intervention.
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post Dec 26 2024, 08:16 AM

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Currently, the usage of AI is a very serious and rampant issue in higher educational institutions.

Many students were already caught using AI (eg. chatgpt) entirely for their assignments and projects.

All these strawberry, spoon-feeding, instant gratification generation will be coming to workforce soon. They just want the easy way out to do things.

Another issue is that you can see for yourself from /k itself, there's an increase in the number of students enrolling in international schools.

The extremely very good students (those type that will end up in Oxbridge (Oxford, Cambridge, MIT, etc) are only few and far between. And then you have some who are least good in some way while the majority of the students in international schools are just hopeless, mostly coming from rich parents who don't discipline their kids at home in the first place.

As more ppl parents shifting their kids towards international private schools, this will also not be good for the workforce. It's all about spoonfeeding in those schools.

Just speak to teachers who are teaching there, not parents who will just exaggeratedly gloat how competent their kids are by attending those schools.

Chinese independent schools is like the last bastion to enforce discipline among students.
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post Dec 26 2024, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Dec 26 2024, 08:16 AM)
Currently, the usage of AI is a very serious and rampant issue in higher educational institutions.

Many students were already caught using AI (eg. chatgpt) entirely for their assignments and projects.

All these strawberry, spoon-feeding, instant gratification generation will be coming to workforce soon. They just want the easy way out to do things.

Another issue is that you can see for yourself from /k itself, there's an increase in the number of students enrolling in international schools.

The extremely very good students (those type that will end up in Oxbridge (Oxford, Cambridge, MIT, etc) are only few and far between. And then you have some who are least good in some way while the majority of the students in international schools are just hopeless, mostly coming from rich parents who don't discipline their kids at home in the first place.

As more ppl parents shifting their kids towards international private schools, this will also not be good for the workforce. It's all about spoonfeeding in those schools.

Just speak to teachers who are teaching there, not parents who will just exaggeratedly gloat how competent their kids are by attending those schools.

Chinese independent schools is like the last bastion to enforce discipline among students.
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Are you in academic? How do you guys detect AI?
I suppose using some kind of AI detection as well?

Sometimes I also wonder that and tried with those free AI text detection.
But often I realize AI writing is very common style, exactly like something I would write sometime.

I think the focus should be on ethical use of AI. AI enabled laziness in a new way.
Before this, student are already using copy and paste thanks to abundance of information enabled by Google search.
Before that, student copy from physical books.
The thing is general society is just of average intelligence and the smart ones are just few.

But AI can also enable average intelligence student to achieve another academic height, if they are guided well.

This post has been edited by Sycamore: Dec 26 2024, 04:54 PM
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post Dec 26 2024, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Dec 26 2024, 04:50 PM)
Are you in academic? How do you guys detect AI?
I suppose using some kind of AI detection as well?

Sometimes I also wonder that and tried with those free AI text detection.
But often I realize AI writing is very common style, exactly like something I would write sometime.

I think the focus should be on ethical use of AI. AI enabled laziness in a new way.
Before this, student are already using copy and paste thanks to abundance of information enabled by Google search.
Before that, student copy from physical books.
The thing is general society is just of average intelligence and the smart ones are just few.

But AI can also enable average intelligence student to achieve another academic height, if they are guided well.
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Using the AI tool itself to screen their work, it will tell whether it's a work of an AI laugh.gif

Or sometimes, some simple checking will do. Chatgpt can produce fictitious reference list. We just check whether they exist or not.

Most of the time actually, it's quite obvious for us to easily see that the students relied on AI to complete their work. The students are so lazy to the extend that they don't even bother to at least tailor their answer to the question requirement. They just simply dump everything in.


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post Dec 26 2024, 05:59 PM

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i use chatgpt to correct my email grammar also some of my meeting minutes grammar.

I've been using it for 4-5 months.

Honestly, it helps me to do things quicker, but i start to have the relying attitude to it, maybe a few times i did not work hard to think of the words i was trying to use. which is baaad. i know is not good. but it makes my communication in digital effortlessly and more professional.


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post Dec 27 2024, 12:15 PM

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Before the wide spread use smart phone, everyone need to remember a lot of landlines number or write it down on a phone book.

Now days, I only remember my own number.

Like everyone else said, AI is another tool.
It doesn't made us dumber. It just made us lazier.

If you, instead of making calculations in your head, open the calculator app, please put your hands up tongue.gif

Too lazy too write your letter/report/story etc? AI will do it for you.

I only wish that the AI are the one doing the hard work so the humans can have time for art and write poetry. Its the other way around right now.

Note: This post was made by AI. JK tongue.gif

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andyng38
post Dec 27 2024, 02:42 PM

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Our brains are like muscles...needs exercise and training. Do yourself a favor....minimize usage of AI, and turn off autocorrect.
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post Dec 27 2024, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Dec 27 2024, 02:42 PM)
Our brains are like muscles...needs exercise and training. Do yourself a favor....minimize usage of AI, and turn off autocorrect.
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Ya i off auto correct

 

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