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yiidonger
post Dec 16 2024, 09:21 PM

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Even though its on par or better than 3060ti, it's way more efficient than 3060ti and 3070, making the card run cooler and quiet.

Don't buy 3070, 8gb is not enough for some games as windows background already took 1GB vram, even more when you want to run multi monitor setup. B580 is the best choice if you can get it around its MSRP.

As for the card edition, I won't recommend you to get LE:
1. Even though the shroud and looks are premium, it's heavy and fingerprint magnet.

2. They run hotter than 3rd party ones.

3. They are more expensive.

3rd party ones like Asrock are superior to the LE, aside from the premium packing and the shroud.

I had A750 for a year and their driver has improved a lot, rarely encounter any in-game bug. So now B580 surface means intel going to start gaining marketshare from AMD Nvidia, my prediction is that Intel should surpasses AMD in a few years, if RX8000 series not ground breaking.

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yiidonger
post Dec 16 2024, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 16 2024, 09:55 PM)
And if Intel BOD doesnt give up yet on the money losing side of the business... they ady sacked both the Arc main benefactors and if BM doesnt gain marketshare its baibai for C gen.
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Which it would for sure, if RX8000 is not ground breaking. Intel BOD is pathetic and retarded, its not surprised that they are doing stupid things and will be doing stupid things. Long term Intel is going to win.

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yiidonger
post Dec 19 2024, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Dec 17 2024, 03:48 PM)
Depends on what you define by decent.

I see it a basic 2 slot, 2 fan card for 190W GPU. Very similar to 3060Ti which can hit 80+ C at full gaming load. Nothing to worry about here but your likely to hear the fan noise if the PC is table height close to you.
A 3 fan version like Sparkle Titan wont significantly improve cooling or increase OCing, but the fans will spin slower so will not sound as loud.

As long as you game with earsets and dont mind the noise, its a 'decent' card.
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B580 despite being a 190W card, but only uses around 110w in most of the games. its better than RX7600 in almost every aspect : price, raw performance, power efficiency, vram size, ray tracing, etc. In ray tracing, AMD is so far behind. Intel XeSS is also slight better than DLSS. There will be small amount of games the performance are same or less, but more ppl buying the card means intel will trying harder on fixing bugs.

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post Dec 19 2024, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Tsuki91 @ Dec 17 2024, 01:22 PM)
Gotta ask; is the ASRock Arc B580 Challenger a decent card to consider?
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What u meant by decent card? It's a steal if you could get it around its msrp. The card is just too good at that price. But problem is, could u even get it that price? It look like a paper launch because the card is expensive to be produced because it had a bigger die size than 4060/7600, just slightly smaller die size than 4070S, but with that die size the performance is only slightly better than 4060 u know wat i mean.

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post Dec 20 2024, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(hdbjhn2 @ Dec 20 2024, 02:09 PM)
I used to like Intel graphics for different reason. When i was young, era 2010s, i used to play lot's games on INtel IGP.
Despite being not known for gaming, being just igp and smhow playable fps(that time lepas 30-40fps, 800x600, hoooray la, jnji no lag haha), the graphics still didn't look too terrible.
SO, i do trust their software optimization and support a lot.
If u experienced both sides(igp n Dgpu), should be amazed what that lil igp can do for wat it was.
That's why i didn't like AMD when their software optimization usED to suck, for being gaming oriented.
BUt, this time, personally, i don't like that 190 watt, especially Rm1000 gpu often sold with crappy coolers nowdays, not based on tdp.
Sapphire rx 570(138w), for exmple have way heftier cooler thn rtx 3050(130w, but some don't hv heat pipe, or maybe just 1) released on later years.

190w vs 115w of 4060. That's higher by 60%, though performance difference isn't even close to 60% and present with issues also, lepas beli, it's gamble.
Rmmber, this is a newly released gpu, not like comparing slightly faster old gen 3070(220w) with 4060 ti(170w).
Only slightly cheaper kot.

For budget users, that tdp matters.
Anything close 200, gonna need more than basic ventilation, so, for people using budget level PSU(higher load + more hot air from gpu inside casing), casing(better vents + air flow path) and fans(more, or bigger or louder), spends more, and end up spending same like Rtx 4060, but with more dust maintenance,,
or, be fine with running comparatively higheer temperature.
But we live hot country, and people should have device last as long as they can.  Soo,, temperature it is.

Again, if mere 20-w to 40 watt pun ok la. but, 70watts, hmm.
even RTX 4070 is only 200 watt.
Mehh, it's just being over hyped i feel.
Marketing nowdays is to appear like saviour.
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yiidonger
post Jan 8 2025, 04:28 PM

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If you normally play esports title u can try to find new or used Arc A750 for a good price because i bought one newly last year for rm770 and it runs so well in esports titles. Althrough it doesn't run well in UE5 titles, but in some games like Cyberpunk 2077 it's as good as 3060TI. What i dont like is a lot of ppl discredit A750 and A770 after they released Battlemage, just to find out that it has so much issues at launch, just like back when Alchemist was released. I even saw someone picked up usd A750 at 100usd used, this is crazy consider a new 4060 is 300usd now.

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