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TSblue33
post Dec 10 2024, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(skyblack4492 @ Dec 10 2024, 02:10 PM)
Shopee telegram job like product job then get rm30. After that require to transfer money 100, get 140 commision etc ?
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Nope they claimed to run dropshipping business model, you invest as seller, when there is order you top up money in usdt and process the order, once customer got the stocks, the portal then transfer the money to you.
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post Dec 10 2024, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(skyblack4492 @ Dec 10 2024, 02:15 PM)
Kasi reveal company name,bank account, detail description how to fish bait etc to warn other.

At first bank in 1k get 200. Manage to withdraw.
Then second time put 10k, they give many reason kenot withdraw etc
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Yes something like that, ask to topup money then only allow withdraw.

TSblue33
post Dec 10 2024, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(Autocountstick @ Dec 10 2024, 02:23 PM)
Freeze account take time.The time report polis and bank,money edy withdraw. Scammer dont put money and wait you freeze or gain interest
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Yes maybe. They tried asking me to cancel my ibg transfer before. They want instant.
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post Dec 10 2024, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(blue33 @ Dec 10 2024, 06:53 PM)
Yes something like that, ask to topup money then only allow withdraw.
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How much total damage?
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post Dec 10 2024, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(blue33 @ Dec 9 2024, 05:49 PM)
wao found out that the company name for the hlb account that the scammer shared, does not exist in SSM. How come they managed to create the bank account with HLB.
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Right there is negligence by you or your family member.
Pls do all the due diligence before invest in anything.
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post Dec 11 2024, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Dec 10 2024, 06:59 PM)
Right there is negligence by you or your family member.
Pls do all the due diligence before invest in anything.
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Thread should be - family member willingly get scammed. AMA.

People still believe outside, people wanna give you free money. But all payment is paid in foreign currency or to bank account not of the company's name.
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post Dec 11 2024, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(blue33 @ Dec 8 2024, 06:18 PM)
Hi, made police report, and reported to bank, bank say they will investigate and freeze the bank account details that i provided.

wonder what is the chances that the money can be recovered. Anyone had experience on this to share?
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No you can't.
You can't retrace back the money that you transferred out. The financial system doesnt work that way.

Just take it as a lesson.
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post Dec 11 2024, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(blue33 @ Dec 8 2024, 07:42 PM)
He invested in a dropshipping business model site, made few transfers to the site bank accounts and was able to withdraw once, now withdrawal got blocked and the customer service asked to top up more money to unblock.
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QUOTE(blue33 @ Dec 9 2024, 05:49 PM)
wao found out that the company name for the hlb account that the scammer shared, does not exist in SSM. How come they managed to create the bank account with HLB.
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not sure this can help you are not, try transfer 1 ringgit to that HLB account , remark and detail write scammer ! traitor ! and write police report done , this will alert the bank and immediately block the HLB account , hope it help.

anyway money already gone, that for sure.

edit : u also need few more bank account to do the same thing so that HLB get alert enough, 5-10 or more will do.

This post has been edited by nelson969: Dec 11 2024, 10:01 AM
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post Dec 11 2024, 10:02 AM

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https://jpa.spab.gov.my/eApps/system/index.do

also try this , if u really need get your money back, since u say police report has been done, might as well use this website and try your luck
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post Dec 11 2024, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 11 2024, 08:24 AM)
No you can't.
You can't retrace back the money that you transferred out. The financial system doesnt work that way.

Just take it as a lesson.
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who said cant? every ATM has a CCTV, the bank can trace back via CCTV to see who withdraw from that account and which ATM. If online, can trace back where the money ended to and investigate on the final account number who is the owner. This is a modern digital world, nothing is impossible.
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post Dec 11 2024, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(deejay_krish @ Dec 11 2024, 03:18 PM)
who said cant? every ATM has a CCTV, the bank can trace back via CCTV to see who withdraw from that account and which ATM. If online, can trace back where the money ended to and investigate on the final account number who is the owner. This is a modern digital world, nothing is impossible.
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Sorry my typo Im not saying cannot trace.
But without solid prove the other one are scammer, you can't simply frozen your client account, or return back the amount.

Let's say you are honest businessman selling me iPhone 16 Pro max RM6999.
I agreed and paid you via ATM transfer RM6999.
Right away I lanjiao gatal went to police station say you scammed my RM6999.
You think bank has any authority to return my RM6999?

Under Malaysia Law, PDRM need to submit application for account investigation, which will take up to 3-5working days respond from bank to know which is the account owner. If the amount already transferred out, it will take another 3-5working days to follow up with next mule owner.

That's why it's endlessly PDRM rather waste time to follow such trace.
Because it's you willingly transferred out the monies by no one forcing.
It's your fault to sending monies out, not scammer fault.

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post Dec 11 2024, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 11 2024, 03:55 PM)
Sorry my typo Im not saying cannot trace.
But without solid prove the other one are scammer, you can't simply frozen your client account, or return back the amount.

Let's say you are honest businessman selling me iPhone 16 Pro max RM6999.
I agreed and paid you via ATM transfer RM6999.
Right away I lanjiao gatal went to police station say you scammed my RM6999.
You think bank has any authority to return my RM6999?

Under Malaysia Law, PDRM need to submit application for account investigation, which will take up to 3-5working days respond from bank to know which is the account owner. If the amount already transferred out, it will take another 3-5working days to follow up with next mule owner.

That's why it's endlessly PDRM rather waste time to follow such trace.
Because it's you willingly transferred out the monies by no one forcing.
It's your fault to sending monies out, not scammer fault.

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this yes, most probably cannot do anything cause self transfer and self negligence
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post Dec 12 2024, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Dec 11 2024, 10:02 AM)
https://jpa.spab.gov.my/eApps/system/index.do

also try this , if u really need get your money back, since u say police report has been done, might as well use this website and try your luck
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To file complain on the scammer or what ah?
They entertain such case meh?
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post Dec 12 2024, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 11 2024, 03:55 PM)
Sorry my typo Im not saying cannot trace.
But without solid prove the other one are scammer, you can't simply frozen your client account, or return back the amount.

Let's say you are honest businessman selling me iPhone 16 Pro max RM6999.
I agreed and paid you via ATM transfer RM6999.
Right away I lanjiao gatal went to police station say you scammed my RM6999.
You think bank has any authority to return my RM6999?

Under Malaysia Law, PDRM need to submit application for account investigation, which will take up to 3-5working days respond from bank to know which is the account owner. If the amount already transferred out, it will take another 3-5working days to follow up with next mule owner.

That's why it's endlessly PDRM rather waste time to follow such trace.
Because it's you willingly transferred out the monies by no one forcing.
It's your fault to sending monies out, not scammer fault.
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Hmm i was told by banks they will freeze the bank account then investigate la not sure how true it is, not sure if any expert here can't confirm the whole process. Pbb say they are not sure also, their internal handle this and they don't handle call or queried from external.

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post Dec 12 2024, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(deejay_krish @ Dec 11 2024, 04:24 PM)
this yes, most probably cannot do anything cause self transfer and self negligence
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They can investigate not based on 1 case la

1. The registered company name cannot be found in ssm, i tried my fren old company which he ask requested ssm to close it 18 year's ago, the record still in ssm

2. I am sure I am not the only one buying "iPhone" from them

3. Frequent deposit and full amount withdrawals are suspicious

4. Idk how else bank determines an bank account as scam besides above + police report.

5. Btw i check https://semakmule.rmp.gov.my/, they are 2 reports of this Bank account as of last Sunday.
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post Dec 12 2024, 09:41 AM

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Unless you got strong contact in pdrm otherwise gone case.

The problem always stuck at the io phase, io will ask how much money scammed then kopi from scammer then tutup report.

Otherwise tonnes of mule account holders already got charged in court unless the mule account holder is dead person
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post Dec 12 2024, 10:16 AM

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Mule account is hard solve due to address issue.
Chances to find them in person is tough due to this kind of ppl move around and are renting.


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