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TSblue33
post Dec 8 2024, 06:18 PM, updated 2y ago

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Hi, made police report, and reported to bank, bank say they will investigate and freeze the bank account details that i provided.

wonder what is the chances that the money can be recovered. Anyone had experience on this to share?
TSblue33
post Dec 8 2024, 07:42 PM

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He invested in a dropshipping business model site, made few transfers to the site bank accounts and was able to withdraw once, now withdrawal got blocked and the customer service asked to top up more money to unblock.
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post Dec 9 2024, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Dec 9 2024, 10:23 AM)
Chances is zero. Scammer very quick to withdraw the money because bank first response always freeze affected account pending investigations. They will remove all money within 1 hour and circulate it into oblivion to avoid tracing.

I hope TS can share how and what method they use to scam. To warn others. Please state the name of the website/agency so this post can appear when ppl google and thus avoid being scammed.
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hi i mentioned it in post #7. to add more details, scammer add you in social media then slowly introduce you to this investment.
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post Dec 9 2024, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 9 2024, 11:12 AM)
added them in social media? not the other round from social media and added in whatsapp to chat further?
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hmm they did ask for whatsapp, not sure what's the issue for them to use social media chat. i skip mentioning whatsapp as i thought not important info.
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post Dec 9 2024, 05:49 PM

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wao found out that the company name for the hlb account that the scammer shared, does not exist in SSM. How come they managed to create the bank account with HLB.
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post Dec 9 2024, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Dec 9 2024, 05:53 PM)
Probably ssm expired?
Or registered using different company name?
Or maybe not company account?

U no provide any details how to guess
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no i tried using my friend company which he submitted termination 18 years old. the record still in SSM.

but what you mean by registered using different company name? then whats the hlb bank account recipient name they gave, it is not a personal name.
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post Dec 9 2024, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Sunshape @ Dec 9 2024, 09:19 PM)
like u said, no details how to help
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what details are you asking for?
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post Dec 10 2024, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(skyblack4492 @ Dec 10 2024, 02:10 PM)
Shopee telegram job like product job then get rm30. After that require to transfer money 100, get 140 commision etc ?
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Nope they claimed to run dropshipping business model, you invest as seller, when there is order you top up money in usdt and process the order, once customer got the stocks, the portal then transfer the money to you.
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post Dec 10 2024, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(skyblack4492 @ Dec 10 2024, 02:15 PM)
Kasi reveal company name,bank account, detail description how to fish bait etc to warn other.

At first bank in 1k get 200. Manage to withdraw.
Then second time put 10k, they give many reason kenot withdraw etc
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Yes something like that, ask to topup money then only allow withdraw.

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post Dec 10 2024, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(Autocountstick @ Dec 10 2024, 02:23 PM)
Freeze account take time.The time report polis and bank,money edy withdraw. Scammer dont put money and wait you freeze or gain interest
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Yes maybe. They tried asking me to cancel my ibg transfer before. They want instant.
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post Dec 12 2024, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Dec 11 2024, 10:02 AM)
https://jpa.spab.gov.my/eApps/system/index.do

also try this , if u really need get your money back, since u say police report has been done, might as well use this website and try your luck
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To file complain on the scammer or what ah?
They entertain such case meh?
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post Dec 12 2024, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 11 2024, 03:55 PM)
Sorry my typo Im not saying cannot trace.
But without solid prove the other one are scammer, you can't simply frozen your client account, or return back the amount.

Let's say you are honest businessman selling me iPhone 16 Pro max RM6999.
I agreed and paid you via ATM transfer RM6999.
Right away I lanjiao gatal went to police station say you scammed my RM6999.
You think bank has any authority to return my RM6999?

Under Malaysia Law, PDRM need to submit application for account investigation, which will take up to 3-5working days respond from bank to know which is the account owner. If the amount already transferred out, it will take another 3-5working days to follow up with next mule owner.

That's why it's endlessly PDRM rather waste time to follow such trace.
Because it's you willingly transferred out the monies by no one forcing.
It's your fault to sending monies out, not scammer fault.
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Hmm i was told by banks they will freeze the bank account then investigate la not sure how true it is, not sure if any expert here can't confirm the whole process. Pbb say they are not sure also, their internal handle this and they don't handle call or queried from external.

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post Dec 12 2024, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(deejay_krish @ Dec 11 2024, 04:24 PM)
this yes, most probably cannot do anything cause self transfer and self negligence
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They can investigate not based on 1 case la

1. The registered company name cannot be found in ssm, i tried my fren old company which he ask requested ssm to close it 18 year's ago, the record still in ssm

2. I am sure I am not the only one buying "iPhone" from them

3. Frequent deposit and full amount withdrawals are suspicious

4. Idk how else bank determines an bank account as scam besides above + police report.

5. Btw i check https://semakmule.rmp.gov.my/, they are 2 reports of this Bank account as of last Sunday.

 

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