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Since most suggest own built,

Can anyone suggest small footprint mini itx case?

This post has been edited by mystvearn: Nov 29 2024, 06:19 AM

Laptop >>>> Mini PC

MiniPC all uses laptop chipset, no battery, no screen, no KB, no Resell Value.

Unless you really HATE laptop.
for abit more price, you get a complete set.


I was planning to have a MiniPC to replace my Gaming PC.
but after i study, even thunderbolt 4 auto cut 35% eGPU perf. then i totally give up the idea of MiniPC.

But if you familiar with MacOS, Mac Mini M4 is the best out there. magically cheapest if you consider the performance it packed.

If its solely for wife use and she already has a tablet, just buy a mini pc (Intel NUC/Mac Mini) which you can easily turn it into an entertainment PC when required.

But if you wanted to use it 'occasionally' as gaming PC as well, then build a mini ITX PC.

Mini PC like those intel Nuc which is 4x4inch size or the new MAC Mini 5x5inch is truly portable which you can put it in your backpack and use a tablet as a monitor.

<5k can't build a good ITX.

ITX need many good hardware and most of the ITX hardware is more expensive.

if for normal work, maybe the new mac mini is suitable?
what is the model/spec of that lenovo 2in1 laptop?

Something thats with big RAM size (32GB) I would vote for build MATX/ITX PC, as I doubt there are many available NUC/Laptop with such capacity or wont cost you a bomb. If that office 12gen PC serves her need why not build another one for WFH? Can mix around with 13/14gen nonK i5 too.

You can try with Asrock Deskmini B660/B760 for Intel 12th Gen.
It is using desktop chipset and desktop proc.
Performance is better than laptop chipset.
Only limitation is no slot for graphic card.

Yes you can.

Try

Viewnet:
Core i7-14700K - 1429
Corsair H100i Elite Capellix XT - 299
Asus ROG Strix B760-I - 999
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 359
Cooler Master V 650W SFX - 549

Shopee:
Acer Predator Pallas 32GB DDR5-6400 CL32 kit - 634
Lian Li A4-H2O (11 Liters. Around PS5 size) - 678

RM4948 total

This post has been edited by TristanX: Nov 28 2024, 06:58 PM

PROCESSOR: Intel Core 14th Generation i7-14700T Processor (20 Core, Up to 5.20GHz, 33MB Cache, 35W)
SOFTWARE: Windows 11 Pro
512GB PCIe M.2 NVMe Gen 4 Class 35 Solid State Drive Hard Drive
16GB (2X8GB) Up to 5600MT/s DDR5 SoDIMM Non-ECC MEMORY
No Display Included LCD
Intel UHD Graphics GRAPHICS
Realtek RTL 8852BE Wi-Fi 6 2x2 802.11ax NETWORK
Dell Outlet OptiPlex 7020 Micro Form Factor
3yr warranty

RM3029

PROCESSOR: Intel Core 14th Generation i7-14700 Processor (20 Core, Up to 5.40GHz, 33MB Cache, 65W)
SOFTWARE: Windows 11 Pro
512GB PCIe M.2 NVMe Class 35 Solid State Drive + 512GB PCIe M.2 NVMe Gen 4 Class 35 Solid State Drive Hard Drive
16GB (1X16GB) Up to 5600MHz DDR5 UDIMM Non-ECC MEMORY
No Display Included LCD
Integrated Graphics GRAPHICS
Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210 Wireless Card NETWORK
Dell Outlet OptiPlex 7020 Small Form Factor Plus
3yr warranty

RM3379

PROCESSOR: Intel Core 14th Generation i7-14700 Processor (20 Core, Up to 5.40GHz, 33MB Cache, 65W)
SOFTWARE: Windows 11 Pro
2TB PCIe M.2 NVMe QLC Gen 4 Class 25 Solid State Drive + 2TB PCle M.2 NVMe Gen 4 QLC Class 25 Solid State Drive Hard Drive
64GB (2X32GB) Up to 5600MHz DDR5 UDIMM Non-ECC MEMORY
No Display Included LCD
Integrated Graphics GRAPHICS
Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX211 Wireless Card NETWORK
Dell Outlet OptiPlex 7020 Small Form Factor Plus
Original Price RM 5,469.00

Just to add. RM150 more can get you Cooler Master V 850W SFX. Makes it more future proof if you plan to turn that Lian Li A4-H2O into gaming rig. It has triple slot graphic card support and a PCIE 4.0 X16 riser.

I don't mind building a pc if mini pc is too slow. Just build a cooler master nr200 for wife's office last year. But since she doesn't need a gpu, was thinking of something smaller.

Forgot. Outstation. Later will check

You dont need a GPU but the i5 4th gen is too slow? Weird to be honest. If you upgrade the ram to 16gb plus a SSD, does it still perform slowly?

Im personally using Intel N100 with 16GB ram because I dont feel I need anything more powerful than a Skylake (6th gen Intel). My bro wanted something future proof thus he upgraded all the office pc to i5 13th gen with 8 GB ram and I honestly couldnt feel any difference using them for normal day-to-day work. The only real difference is when you do heavy tasks like windows update or want to play games that require 3D rendering. The only reason why I upgrade is because I needed W11 and this mini pc idle at 10w vs i5 3570 which idling at 60-70w.

If you feel like you need more processing power, then just avoid those U chip. Those HX chip from Intel are desktop class.

Just give me these 2 "old" PC. Install Linux and these "old" PC will fly. Windows is what make the PC "old". I'm running a dual core PC 10 years old running Linux doing work (designing electronic, 3D, programming, etc).

Fine with integrates graphics. Weird, not sure but install windows 11,office 365, zoom, webex. E
I've sold my i7 4770k setup few years ago, but I am using photoshop, 3d tools.

Even on my current laptop, I type sometimes faster than the text appears. Not sure if it eset though. My workplace has phased out all pc more than 5 years. These include just normal clerical work.

Video conferencing is a bit of a mix bag depending on system. Some older system with a mediocre GPU may suffer a bit. Maybe get a current i3 or i5 desktop chip without those E-cores. E-cores is a bit saving on power consumption but the switching between P and E cores are not exactly smooth (latency) and have been identified as one of the reason why Intel has stuttering problem ever since 12th gen. Keyboard and mouse input lag are among the known problem.

Even AMD cpu with more than 1 die also suffer from this latency problem when more than 1 die is activated.

how about deskmeet?

https://www.asrock.com/nettop/AMD/DeskMeet%...eries/index.asp

I switched my AMD Ryzen Acer laptop to an intel N100 with 12GB RAM windows tablet 2 months ago due to Acer keyboard and power problems. The tablet was meant as a temporary replacement and since I don't need much processing power so I bought the tablet under RM1K after discount.

So far so good.

Had not crossed my mind

you can build with AMD APU or with small RTX or RX GPU <200mm length.
ram and SSD can upgrade later on.

at first i want to build one, but end up buy a used Dell for macOS

Used pc with latest internals?