Every month or so, they take an MC without fail unless it falls on a weekend I suppose.

Tak kira whether got important task or not, just whack an MC.

On the MC, the reason is stated as stomach pain, gastroenteritis or period paid.

Is this an acceptable reason? Can a superior do anything about it at all?

period pain is real. some women experience this. employees entitled for MCs if they are not feeling well.
Do they produce MC certs...if yes...then there is basically nothing you can do.

Yes it’s acceptable

Who are you to question a medical doctor that diagnose the issue

MC cert is a valid cert to be excused from work to recover as the individual cannot discharge thier duty

Simple as that

Whether you like it or not, there is nothing you can do about it.

Performance review there u can give remark lor.
Or if don't want passive aggressive, just reward the others who don't take MC.

Seriously, the place I work ppl whack unlimited leave (as long as approved) like there is no restrictions.

End up those who don't take leave have to shoulder their work. Makes me wanna do the same

Valid, you don't want labor office to find you,
Unless you can prove that, the mc is fake or bought then yes you can do something

reward those who didnt take given they are more productive ofc, that is the best way forward.

i think many guys don't realise how painful period pain is

If period pain, then it's kinda acceptable...

Certain people have weak body....

Anyway as long not fake MC...
Really cannot do much

Just during reviews given
Can write notes saying high usage of MC...

I have seen a colleague take all the sick leave that we entitled until she has used up all the coverage of the medical benefit.
What my company did is, just send a letter to remind her, you have used up all the leave and the coverage. If you wanna seek for medical advice, the cost will be under her. Regarding the leaves, I have forgotten already.
But still, it is normal for them, especially non-executive. They will think it is supposed to take.

Coincidentally this was on my mind this week. I took two days MC on mon and tues. my colleagues were like wah TWO days ah. like it was a big deal. Now still recovering but back to work.

some ppl rather not take mc and rough it out in the office then they infect everyone else with flu and stuff and when other ppl get sick, they will be like look at me, didnt even take MC. as if got badge to be had for infecting others.

I kept telling them, if your sick take MC lah, dont spread it in office. Everytime my accounts lady get sick, following week my manager then me.

yes set a rule those MC every month for 3 months in a row with no good reason such as pregnancy (not normal flu) will kena appraisal downgrade.

As long as their work performance not affected by taking MC, just let them take. Some old staff having habit of taking MC, they already reaching their retiring age soon so as long as not making big issue just let them be.

Learn to differentiate fake vs real sickness. Even fake MC once a month is considered as very good already. I used to have a colleague that MC 4/5 days per week. Once we are over 30 years old, our body is more prone to sickness (myself is example), especially when under stress (deadline, issues, etc). To me MC is not an issue, but IF it's an abuse of MC, then the pattern needs to be studied before any action is taken. This is to prevent penalizing those who really needs it. HR needs to clarify in front of everyone that MC is not annual leave (must clear all). It's only meant for sickness.

instead of a being suspicious and prejudice, why don't you talk to her about her health issues? if she has serious health issues, why don't you advise her to see a specialist about it?

As long the MC is issued by licensed doctor then manager have to accept. What the manager could do is reward more to those "healthy" employees.

Some HR has a guideline stated if an employee taken more than 5 days MC in a financial year, 0.5 will be deducted from the overall performance rating.

When an employee is on MC, his/her colleagues need to cover the dept's commitment. So reward those work extra. Fair an square.

If u work in mnc and follow those post that ask u put in review for too many mc, good luck respind to hr when the staff complain.

virtual signal? are u paying ? those salary?

12 days per year which is still lesser than the normal standard of 14 days MC per year right

If the employee is performing well and achieving his/her/they goals, why be concerned about them taking MC once a month ?

I don't think the company can take any discipline action on this because all staffs are entitle sick leave. But one thing company can do is when the time of performance review those employees always on MC they will not get a good rating and this gonna affect their bonus and increment. For those who wanna said I am cruel please think twice, if you MC suddenly then the work will pass on to your colleague who did not get extra paid to do your job. If your job do not need others to assist the problem still exist, this will cause delay of work and company loss.

Labour law allow 14 days of sick leave, it doesn't mean we have to take it all.

Using mc rating, are employees not allowed to be sick ?
Good luck to you on never getting influenza a and covid, that would be 8 days of MC.

If the employee is still delivering their work, not getting into any trouble, I wouldn't really bother with the MC.

I have a female staff in her 20s, takes mc first day of her menses. She told me the cramp will be bad on the first day, and I can relate when I see my wife at times. But her productivity during working days are good, so I don't see a problem here.

As for others, as long it's within their allocation, I don't think it's an issue as well, and we have strict instructions not to base our appraisal on the number of MCs taken.

This post has been edited by tampinmy: Dec 25 2024, 09:24 AM

If it were a real sick of course it is acceptable, but in reality many employees abuse MC. Imagine a staff every month sick and the sick always on Monday or Friday (if Sat is off day), it is very clear the employee is taking extended holiday. It is quite common many companies are busy on Monday, if someone suddenly absence from work then the workload pass to the colleague who did not get extra paid to backup. Few times a year is fine but some can take all the sick leave entitlement of 14 days. None of the company hope to hire a staff who do not know how to take care of health and always in sick.

As you defend my statement I guess you are one of the person always take MC in the company. Btw it is not good to curse person as it always get karma as return.

I think interviewer also need to do questionnaire on interviewee healthy condition when in interview session. Or else it would be end up like TS colleague.

unless u suspect the doc got foul play la.. else no point la.. its an official rest letter.. though you can try to come out with a counter-plan to reward non-MC..

If women take MC everyone because of cramp and pain on first day of menses I think it is acceptable. But what is women take this menses cramp every month once but it is always fall on day before or after holiday or weekend? We knew that is actually an excuse to get extended leave. And also there are men who always sick, and the sick always happen 1 day after salary issue, or sick before or after the holiday or weekend.

MC cannot be official rating during performance review, but it always be the informal evaluation during performance review.

overseas, you can take medical leave without the need to provide medical certs. you should be thankful employees take the trouble to spend their money and time to go see doctor just to produce a paper to you when they're sick.

I know an employee who takes 30 days MC due to backpain

he's been doing that for past 3 years.

he is young guy about 27yo

one day boss decided to retrench him because whenever she needs him, he is not around.

No joke, i knew ppl that plan their MC like planning AL holiday

My friend she always use MC at least 10-14 days a year. The way she MC is always on MONDAY or FRIDAY, or sometimes MC on the day she came back from travel which she took it as extended leave. She said she dont care how others think about her and she don't give a shxt if her colleagues need to take up her job during her MC.

my company give reward to reduce MC


MYR 2000 Maximum 1 day absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 1500 Maximum 3 days absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 1000 Maximum 6 days absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 500 Maximum 9 days absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave
MYR 0 10 days or more absence due to medical leave, hospitalisation and/or *unpaid leave

ask your boss do the same

This post has been edited by soul333: Feb 27 2025, 08:57 AM

No.

They misuse MC for.

This happen when comoany too much those kind of MC people

The hirer is blind or inexperiences

How to know at the point of hiring?

Question

And do due diligence check before hire la

Noob hirer will ask this question : "How to know at the point of hiring?"

Bodo

definitely ok

Is the MC valid? Did u call the clinic to verify?

This post has been edited by amboi_asamboi: Mar 18 2025, 11:03 AM

Genuine sick?

hey! what about No MC (0 day) thru out the year? what is the reward for this?

what is your company name? I should join your company lar

P/S: I have been 0 day MC in my prev company for 8 years, even my ex-manager, ex TL also ask me how I maintain my health

My immediate superior and CFO question MC given by HKL. I write up a report on them to HR after physical meeting to iron things out ..

I bluntly tell them to the face :
1. You don't play doctor role in which you are not qualified to give your opinion on my medical related matters
2. If you want to question HKL, by all means give them all call. The MC is not issued by private practitioner where there is possibility to obtain by paying .. This is government hospital
3. If you are not happy, I'm more happy to bring this to labor court. Easy win for me with all relevant submitted and filed document given to HR and my own personal record safekeeping.

From that days onwards, no one on my back including HR

You cannot penalized ppl for valid MC although you can put whatever remark to it .. I'm talking about increment, bonus and what not ..

I been in that position before; heck even get an "appreciation" award ..

HR role is to protect Company from its Employees..

I understand government hospital/clinic MC most powerful. Even you want skip court hearing like Najib also can only use Government hospital MC.

But I was asked before, I got one staff frequent MC, I can only answer "I'm not a qualified medical professional, I cannot check the reasonableness of a letter issued by a medical professional"

This post has been edited by Mixxomon: Jul 2 2025, 03:24 PM

Unless one have trust issue like my boss, I tell them .. call them to validate / verify if such letter or note had been issued .. simple as that if one is not disputing / disagree with the medical opinion ..