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 Which hydrogen cars will you drive on Srwk road?

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Heroicage
post Oct 31 2024, 08:13 AM

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until it gets cheaper....sure...

otherwise...14 times more expensive to drive a hydrogen car vs EV car....

sorry....don't want to own one.

https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transport/a..._sso_ott=1iEnev


Heroicage
post Oct 31 2024, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Oct 31 2024, 08:27 AM)
It will be cheaper with economies of scale

https://kleanindustries.com/resources/marke...drogen-engines/

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Did you read this part of your link? Which I already knew....

Although hydrogen is the most common element in the universe it’s never found in its pure state, since is generally combined with other elements. As a consequence, creating pure hydrogen for vehicles requires a great deal of energy process to break the compound, which is derived from fossil fuels like natural gas.


Good luck to BMW + Toyota...

Here's another real life challenges/issues using "hydrogen" scenario in San Francisco
https://insideevs.com/news/708375/toyota-mi...stations-close/

While this points the poor refueling stations, at least EV cars can be charge from anywhere that has a household electric socket , with the vehicle adapters, likewise...fossil fuel cars. You can't even produce liquid hydrogen at home or buy a special hydrogen tank-fill it up and refuel them at convenience....

By the time, hydrogen reaches it's practical state vs fossil fuel, ...EV technology would have excelled much further.

IMO, in no time....it's obvious which is phasing out which.

Note: I am not anti-HFCV.






Heroicage
post Oct 31 2024, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 31 2024, 08:39 AM)
Hualawei… 14x more pricy to pump hydrogen?? 😳🤯
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we plug socket to get electricity to power EV, we won't get 100% or even 90% efficiency from battery storage...
power from plug comes from?... fossil fuel burning. 1 stage

we use liquid hydrogen to power HFCV, we won't get 100% efficiency either, we will even get incomplete combustion, that produces nitrous oxide. 1 car maybe nothing...if 1,000 cars...bad to environment.
power from liquid hydrogen ?...fossil fuel- > electricity to process to liquid -> ...2 stage.
Also require far more electricity to process it and liquidify them, and maintain it in liquid form.


so...where is the plus?..greener?...

Toyota Mirai, and Mirai stands for dream....and should remain just a "dream". LOL.

 

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