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 [2024] Mac Mini with M4 / M4 Pro

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jonthebaptist
post Nov 3 2024, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(glauncher @ Nov 3 2024, 01:59 AM)
Any way which can use ipad as the monitor for mac mini? Be great if can work anywhere with this pair
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get one of those lapdocks made for Samsung dex, uperfect makes them. or even protable monitor also ok.
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post Nov 3 2024, 03:27 PM

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does anyone know when we can start ordering this m4 mac mini in Malaysia?
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post Nov 4 2024, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Nov 4 2024, 10:51 AM)
in your dream. they can pre-order now and get on 8. we not yet pass sirim and no pre-order yet.
u can see from ipad mini. why other country available but MY not yet
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SG tomorrow start, but MY just says to wait for availability.

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post Nov 6 2024, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 5 2024, 10:25 PM)
listed on FB marketplace, within couple hours sold liao my mac mini… 1800 i include satechi dock which i tried selling for so months and unable to sell.. bundle it seems more attractive deal.
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Are you planning buy the M4 Mac Mini? If yes why not keep the satechi dock, more ports is always better.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-mi...t-work.2442026/
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post Nov 6 2024, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(fabvader @ Nov 6 2024, 01:54 PM)
Will be possible to play games in say high settings?
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 6 2024, 01:55 PM)
M4 max might be able to.

What kind of games are you talking about?
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You probably can expect iPad/iPhone level games for now, but we probably going to see some AAA Games seeing how powerful the spec of the M4 is and how cheap Apple made the new Mac mini M4.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/m4-mac-mini-appl...-200417831.html
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post Nov 6 2024, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 6 2024, 02:26 PM)
There are few AAA games available already.

You can also compare it with iPad Pro M4 gameplay of Assassin's Creed Mirage.

Seeing how M3 already can perform quite good, M4 should handle it even better. Also 8GB vs 16 GB ram helps a lot with the FPS as well.

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Yes this is probably the beginning of AAA gaming on the Mac. This Mac Mini M4 probably cheaper then the next PlayStation/Xbox/Nintendo.
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post Nov 6 2024, 03:23 PM

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For anyone wondering how to use iPad as a display for Mac mini: https://www.arzopa.com/blogs/how-to/ipad-as...or-for-mac-mini

https://youtu.be/S_0KfcKyTBY?si=bVJYixfYd-QFQidj

https://youtu.be/zHrTqQ2FSUE?si=xbQV9BkB7HdP2R9t

Credit: https://www.reddit.com/r/macmini/s/TOKif239Tm
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post Nov 6 2024, 10:55 PM

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Is this true?

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QUOTE(jonthebaptist @ Nov 6 2024, 10:55 PM)
Is this true?

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Pukimak it's true by RM50

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post Nov 8 2024, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Nov 8 2024, 03:18 PM)
how about the RAM? brows.gif
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 8 2024, 04:57 PM)
Ram is soldered as it's unified ram shared with gpu and cpu.
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although slower, why not just use ssd as extra ram (virtual memory) since now has thunderbolt ports, can get a really fast ssd

although m2 mac mini video, but here he talks about swap memory at 6:20 mark



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QUOTE(muman7 @ Nov 14 2024, 04:04 PM)
You meant everyone can get edu discount regardless of their qualification?
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From what I know you just need .edu email from local uni/school to register
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post Nov 16 2024, 03:48 PM

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This Mac Mini M4 probably even the cheapest Windows based arm system at the moment (if you install windows on it of course)

I've seen the Thinkpad and Asus offerings running the snapdragon X Elite/Plus, and they are all above RM6000-RM10000. I've not even seen desktop base windows arm systems yet in the market.

My question is do you know any windows offerings that can match the cost/value of the Mac Mini M4 at this moment?

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post Nov 16 2024, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 16 2024, 11:17 PM)
It’s hard to match this M4 Mac mini cost to performance value. For 2.5k you get the fastest single core cpu in the market. Edu is 2k. You can’t built any pc with such performance.

I don’t believe X Elite is targeting desktops. It’s specifically designed for mobile devices. And since it’s not significantly cheaper either, I think it’s more practical to build a desktop PC with better software support. I believe X Elite faces competition from Apple, AMD, and Intel. AMD’s new mobile chip efficiency is already quite impressive, and I don’t see any reason why people would choose ARM over X86 if battery life is comparable.
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The M4 chip in the Mac Mini M4 was also designed for mobile (iPhone/iPad) which later came to the Mac and MacBooks.

It's only a matter of time until you see ARM bases desktop PCs too (probably running snapdragon).

Anyways you're right cost to performance is amazing here, it leads me to believe Apple is trying to corner the desktop market from the old Wintel Era (windows/Intel).
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Nov 17 2024, 12:06 PM)
Jumping on the bandwagon and everyone's excitement, what's your take on upgrading the MM's internal SSD from 256GB to 512GB?
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It's almost RM1000 just to go from 256GB to 512GB, that's 50% the cost of an entire Mac Mini M4 256GB (education pricing), if you ask me I'd rather top up a bit more and get two Mac Mini M4's for that price.

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 18 2024, 05:13 PM)
Looks like SIRIM totally forgotten Mac mini m4 model. I think only the iMac models are fully approved.

Left Mac Mini M4 and MacBook Pro M4 14".
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The base model Mac Mini M4 is probably the hottest product by Apple now. It's probably just delayed and more focus given to the first wave countries.

It really makes no sense to even buy a windows machine at this point for casual users, the Mac Mini M4 is hands down the best PC to buy at this moment.

We all thought Microsoft would be leading the ARM based windows revolution but no manufacturers followed suit. But they'll definitely follow suit now seeing how many Windows users will buy a Mac instead of the traditional Intel/AMD PC's
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How much power consumption would a similar Windows set up need?



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QUOTE(yvliew @ Nov 18 2024, 08:23 PM)
my pc idle at 70w already.. believe the m4 wont exceed 45w full load  sweat.gif
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This guy did a power consumption test with windows equivalent price vs Mac Mini M4 at the 6 minute mark:
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post Nov 19 2024, 01:00 PM

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Windows vs Mac test, sure it's not fair comparison cause desktop vs laptop but it gives you an idea how good the Mac Mini M4.

I do hope to see people in future install windows on the Mac mini M4 and running the same tests.

https://www.xda-developers.com/tested-apple...dragon-x-elite/

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Some saying Beelink SER9 is a contender here but that thing is RM4.5K-RM5K on shopee/Lazada . Mac Mini M4 is just RM2K-RM2.5K.

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QUOTE(shahr04360 @ Nov 19 2024, 03:14 PM)
Base M4 model, A3238 just get approved.
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My CC and edu account ready. Can't wait.
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QUOTE(fabvader @ Nov 19 2024, 04:27 PM)
How to do the edu account? Asking for a friend.  console.gif
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Need edu email and verify with unidays. I using one from my older days from uni still active
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