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post Oct 15 2024, 11:06 AM, updated 8 months ago

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thinking of some time in future in invest in subsale double storey house

but there is a certain place in Klang valley, value high but their tend to use cement roof tiles which makes the house very hot.

I am thinking of replace them with clay tiles which are cooler.

would someone have quote for 22X75 size house for clay tiles?
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post Oct 15 2024, 11:08 AM

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post Oct 15 2024, 11:10 AM

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Suggest to install a layer of insulation under tile roof, above ceiling and enable air flow for heat to escape ceiling.
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post Oct 15 2024, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Oct 15 2024, 11:10 AM)
Suggest to install a layer of insulation under tile roof, above ceiling and enable air flow for heat to escape ceiling.
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one of my houses has layer of insulation (developer last time put it).

but i wonder which one better? clay tiles or put insulation?

how much does insulation costs?

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Oct 15 2024, 11:13 AM
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post Oct 15 2024, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 15 2024, 11:13 AM)
one of my houses has layer of insulation (developer last time put it).

but i wonder which one better? clay tiles or put insulation?

how much does insulation costs?
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if you insulate cement roof where heat has no path to escape then you can enjoy warmth.
you may want to research online on what works best, then acquire quotes around your area.

TQ for the input at WTA Chest pain.
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post Oct 15 2024, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Oct 15 2024, 11:17 AM)
if you insulate cement roof where heat has no path to escape then you can enjoy warmth.
you may want to research online on what works best, then acquire quotes around your area.

TQ for the input at WTA Chest pain.
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Err Msia here, we want to make house as cooling as possible.

No worries, glad to help

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Oct 15 2024, 11:20 AM
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post Oct 15 2024, 11:26 AM

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Just give call to company that do that

https://homementor.com.my/roofing/best-roof-repair-malaysia/
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post Oct 15 2024, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Oct 15 2024, 11:26 AM)
thanks
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post Oct 15 2024, 11:30 AM

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heard something like fixing awning on top of existing roof
sounds not so pretty looking but guess can reduce heat

i have turbines on roof
first few days felt the difference in temperature
but now like used to it oredi

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post Oct 15 2024, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(kangkayu @ Oct 15 2024, 11:30 AM)
heard something like fixing awning on top of existing roof
sounds not so pretty looking but guess can reduce heat

i have turbines on roof
first few days felt the difference in temperature
but now like used to it oredi
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yeah another thing is I want to ask about turbines.

how much they cost?

what's their electricity usage cost?

any brochures to share?

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post Oct 16 2024, 10:37 AM

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no electricity needed

just google and lots of suppliers around

less than rm1k for a pair, including installation (a few years ago)




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post Oct 16 2024, 11:15 AM

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the cost varies a lot depending on the installer.
Me didn't ask about using clay tiles. Me got quoted from 30k(reputable installer) to normal installer(roughly more than 10k) excluding extra insulation sheet (need add few k depending quality) recently

me didn't do it now as my roof tiles still ok( 20+ years only) but look very not nice. Thinking paint or replace it. Was advice by friends, if ok, don't risk it.
Just change and repair those broken tiles will do, roof tiles should withstand at least, if not more than 30 years.
Experience and workmanship are very important. He saw many change roof tiles but leaking much worse.

His explanation
Our wooded roof truss after so many years with the weight on it, will bend/deformed to a certain way.
Experience installers need to compensate those things in order for future leaking during installation or change the whole roof truss to steel (he prefers this method to settle all problem associated with old wooden roof truss.

I don't see changing to clay tiles justify the extra cost, but it does look nicer and without worry of color distortion comparing with cement type.

For me, I would invest in good insulation than clay tiles. It does provide 2nd layer of protection but will have other set of problems.
The major problem about adding insulation is detecting the actual leaking location and after many years, it will decay.

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post Oct 16 2024, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Oct 16 2024, 11:15 AM)
the cost varies a lot depending on the installer.
Me didn't ask about using clay tiles. Me got quoted from 30k(reputable installer) to normal installer(roughly more than 10k) excluding extra insulation sheet (need add few k depending quality) recently

me didn't do it now as my roof tiles still ok( 20+ years only) but look very not nice. Thinking paint or replace it. Was advice by friends, if ok, don't risk it.
Just change and repair those broken tiles will do, roof tiles should withstand at least, if not more than 30 years.
Experience and workmanship are very important. He saw many change roof tiles but leaking much worse.

His explanation
Our wooded roof truss after so many years with the weight on it, will bend/deformed to a certain way.
Experience installers need to compensate those things in order for future leaking during installation or change the whole roof truss to steel (he prefers this method to settle all problem associated with old wooden roof truss.

I don't see changing to clay tiles justify the extra cost, but it does look nicer and without worry of color distortion comparing with cement type.

For me, I would invest in good insulation than clay tiles. It does provide 2nd layer of protection but will have other set of problems.
The major problem about adding insulation is detecting the actual leaking location and after many years, it will decay.
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The issue with cement tiles is that they are very hot.

For eg, PJ houses are very expensive but they are mostly hot, due to cement tiles.

Thats why I am considering if I were to purchase one, I may change te tiles.



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post Oct 16 2024, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 16 2024, 02:15 PM)
The issue with cement tiles is that they are very hot.

For eg, PJ houses are very expensive but they are mostly hot, due to cement tiles.

Thats why I am considering if I were to purchase one, I may change te tiles.
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House hot can be due to many reasons.
If just for specify on roof itself, the effect of using clay tiles or cement tiles consist of small % different that generating the heat inside the house below if ignore other source of heat onto the house.

You need to understand how the sun transmits the heat onto the surface and below.
The design of the roof plays a large role how the house comfortable below beside the surrounding area. You will start seeing more house design with high roof because of 2 things, air is not a good conductor heat transmission plus with good ventilation work wonders, but we all scare of small animal running wild on the roof if too much open for ventilation.


Surrounding with a lot of trees and shade compare with open empty concrete heat absorbing and hot tarmac road.
Example house in rural area always cooler than vs house in urban area

keyword

Radiant Heat
Ventilation
Insulation

https://rumahhq.com/how-to-create-a-cool-ro...malaysian-heat/

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post Oct 19 2024, 02:17 PM

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The installation method may only withstand for a few years.
Nonetheless, there is a market for the material in MY.
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post Oct 19 2024, 06:03 PM

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Recently did it. 13-15k for the roof tiles.
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post Oct 22 2024, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Oct 19 2024, 02:17 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5390606
The installation method may only withstand for a few years.
Nonetheless, there is a market for the material in MY.
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Ah yes, one of my houses has this insulation installation.

the developer did it.

the house is quite cooling.
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post Oct 23 2024, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 22 2024, 04:42 PM)
Ah yes, one of my houses has this insulation installation.

the developer did it.

the house is quite cooling.
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How long has this method last?
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post Oct 23 2024, 08:21 PM

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Check if the roof thrusts are metal or wood. If wood, need to replace all in case got termites. Expensive because need to hire a crane to get the job done.
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post Oct 27 2024, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Oct 19 2024, 06:03 PM)
Recently did it. 13-15k for the roof tiles.
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Clay tiles or cement tiles ?
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post Oct 29 2024, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Oct 23 2024, 08:07 PM)
How long has this method last?
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I been living there for past 14 years.

Insulation still there.
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post Oct 29 2024, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 29 2024, 02:49 PM)
I been living there for past 14 years.

Insulation still there.
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+1 Thanks.
Got brand of the material?
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post Apr 13 2025, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 29 2024, 02:49 PM)
I been living there for past 14 years.

Insulation still there.
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Read in some older threads that there could be mold due to moisture trap, so need to check regularly?
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post Apr 19 2025, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Oct 29 2024, 02:56 PM)
+1 Thanks.
Got brand of the material?
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Sorry don't know.

When I bought it, developer provided one.

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QUOTE(ItsJustheOne @ Apr 13 2025, 05:32 PM)
Read in some older threads that there could be mold due to moisture trap, so need to check regularly?
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so far ok

 

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