How much to change old house roof from, cement to clay tiles?
How much to change old house roof from, cement to clay tiles?
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Oct 15 2024, 11:06 AM, updated 8 months ago
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thinking of some time in future in invest in subsale double storey house but there is a certain place in Klang valley, value high but their tend to use cement roof tiles which makes the house very hot. I am thinking of replace them with clay tiles which are cooler. would someone have quote for 22X75 size house for clay tiles? |
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Oct 15 2024, 11:08 AM
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Oct 15 2024, 11:10 AM
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Suggest to install a layer of insulation under tile roof, above ceiling and enable air flow for heat to escape ceiling.
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Oct 15 2024, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Oct 15 2024, 11:10 AM) Suggest to install a layer of insulation under tile roof, above ceiling and enable air flow for heat to escape ceiling. one of my houses has layer of insulation (developer last time put it). but i wonder which one better? clay tiles or put insulation? how much does insulation costs? This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Oct 15 2024, 11:13 AM |
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Oct 15 2024, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 15 2024, 11:13 AM) one of my houses has layer of insulation (developer last time put it). if you insulate cement roof where heat has no path to escape then you can enjoy warmth. but i wonder which one better? clay tiles or put insulation? how much does insulation costs? you may want to research online on what works best, then acquire quotes around your area. TQ for the input at WTA Chest pain. |
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Oct 15 2024, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Oct 15 2024, 11:17 AM) if you insulate cement roof where heat has no path to escape then you can enjoy warmth. Err Msia here, we want to make house as cooling as possible.you may want to research online on what works best, then acquire quotes around your area. TQ for the input at WTA Chest pain. No worries, glad to help This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Oct 15 2024, 11:20 AM |
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Oct 15 2024, 11:26 AM
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Oct 15 2024, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Oct 15 2024, 11:26 AM) thanks |
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Oct 15 2024, 11:30 AM
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heard something like fixing awning on top of existing roof
sounds not so pretty looking but guess can reduce heat i have turbines on roof first few days felt the difference in temperature but now like used to it oredi This post has been edited by kangkayu: Oct 15 2024, 11:31 AM |
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Oct 15 2024, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(kangkayu @ Oct 15 2024, 11:30 AM) heard something like fixing awning on top of existing roof yeah another thing is I want to ask about turbines.sounds not so pretty looking but guess can reduce heat i have turbines on roof first few days felt the difference in temperature but now like used to it oredi how much they cost? what's their electricity usage cost? any brochures to share? |
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Oct 16 2024, 10:37 AM
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no electricity needed
just google and lots of suppliers around less than rm1k for a pair, including installation (a few years ago) |
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Oct 16 2024, 11:15 AM
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the cost varies a lot depending on the installer.
Me didn't ask about using clay tiles. Me got quoted from 30k(reputable installer) to normal installer(roughly more than 10k) excluding extra insulation sheet (need add few k depending quality) recently me didn't do it now as my roof tiles still ok( 20+ years only) but look very not nice. Thinking paint or replace it. Was advice by friends, if ok, don't risk it. Just change and repair those broken tiles will do, roof tiles should withstand at least, if not more than 30 years. Experience and workmanship are very important. He saw many change roof tiles but leaking much worse. His explanation Our wooded roof truss after so many years with the weight on it, will bend/deformed to a certain way. Experience installers need to compensate those things in order for future leaking during installation or change the whole roof truss to steel (he prefers this method to settle all problem associated with old wooden roof truss. I don't see changing to clay tiles justify the extra cost, but it does look nicer and without worry of color distortion comparing with cement type. For me, I would invest in good insulation than clay tiles. It does provide 2nd layer of protection but will have other set of problems. The major problem about adding insulation is detecting the actual leaking location and after many years, it will decay. This post has been edited by Iceman74: Oct 16 2024, 11:17 AM |
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Oct 16 2024, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Oct 16 2024, 11:15 AM) the cost varies a lot depending on the installer. The issue with cement tiles is that they are very hot. Me didn't ask about using clay tiles. Me got quoted from 30k(reputable installer) to normal installer(roughly more than 10k) excluding extra insulation sheet (need add few k depending quality) recently me didn't do it now as my roof tiles still ok( 20+ years only) but look very not nice. Thinking paint or replace it. Was advice by friends, if ok, don't risk it. Just change and repair those broken tiles will do, roof tiles should withstand at least, if not more than 30 years. Experience and workmanship are very important. He saw many change roof tiles but leaking much worse. His explanation Our wooded roof truss after so many years with the weight on it, will bend/deformed to a certain way. Experience installers need to compensate those things in order for future leaking during installation or change the whole roof truss to steel (he prefers this method to settle all problem associated with old wooden roof truss. I don't see changing to clay tiles justify the extra cost, but it does look nicer and without worry of color distortion comparing with cement type. For me, I would invest in good insulation than clay tiles. It does provide 2nd layer of protection but will have other set of problems. The major problem about adding insulation is detecting the actual leaking location and after many years, it will decay. For eg, PJ houses are very expensive but they are mostly hot, due to cement tiles. Thats why I am considering if I were to purchase one, I may change te tiles. |
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Oct 16 2024, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Oct 16 2024, 02:15 PM) The issue with cement tiles is that they are very hot. House hot can be due to many reasons. For eg, PJ houses are very expensive but they are mostly hot, due to cement tiles. Thats why I am considering if I were to purchase one, I may change te tiles. If just for specify on roof itself, the effect of using clay tiles or cement tiles consist of small % different that generating the heat inside the house below if ignore other source of heat onto the house. You need to understand how the sun transmits the heat onto the surface and below. The design of the roof plays a large role how the house comfortable below beside the surrounding area. You will start seeing more house design with high roof because of 2 things, air is not a good conductor heat transmission plus with good ventilation work wonders, but we all scare of small animal running wild on the roof if too much open for ventilation. Surrounding with a lot of trees and shade compare with open empty concrete heat absorbing and hot tarmac road. Example house in rural area always cooler than vs house in urban area keyword Radiant Heat Ventilation Insulation https://rumahhq.com/how-to-create-a-cool-ro...malaysian-heat/ This post has been edited by Iceman74: Oct 16 2024, 03:19 PM |
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Oct 19 2024, 02:17 PM
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5390606
The installation method may only withstand for a few years. Nonetheless, there is a market for the material in MY. |
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Oct 19 2024, 06:03 PM
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Recently did it. 13-15k for the roof tiles.
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Oct 22 2024, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Pikichu @ Oct 19 2024, 02:17 PM) https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5390606 Ah yes, one of my houses has this insulation installation. The installation method may only withstand for a few years. Nonetheless, there is a market for the material in MY. the developer did it. the house is quite cooling. |
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Oct 23 2024, 08:07 PM
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Oct 23 2024, 08:21 PM
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Check if the roof thrusts are metal or wood. If wood, need to replace all in case got termites. Expensive because need to hire a crane to get the job done.
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