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post Nov 6 2007, 09:54 AM, updated 19y ago

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Now everyone is aware that there isn't a perfect console , each console has it's + points and it's downfalls , some worse than others.
I'll be constructing a guide on each consoles individual flaws , please PM me with any flaw your believe ive missed out or any flaw you believe needs to be included. I'm not going to go into good points of each console as this would consist of mostly opinion rather than fact , consoles + points are relative to the user whereas negative points generally affect every console user.

DISCLAIMER : THESE ARE NOT MY VIEWS ALONE ,ALL THIS INFORMATION HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES THERFORE ALL FLAMES DIRECTED TOWARDS ME FOR THIS POST ARE POINTLESS.

Let's Start of with the current Gen champion , the Wii


KIDDY GAMES (OPINION)

The Wii is seen to be the most babyish out of the 3 current gen consoles "little Bro". with a large libary of games that would be considered suitable for only those below 10 , this may be seen as a serious downside for more mature gamers interested in purchasing a console.

Potentially damaging to equipment and people in the immediate area (OPINION)

There have been reports of people,equipment being damaged because of intensive playing on the Wii , you'd have to be pretty excited and no focused
enough to maintain a propper grip on the Wii controler. This - is really relative to the person using it , if your a sensible gamer it shoudln't really affect you.

The Wii doesn't come with a HD, can't currently Utilise HD w/o modifications ( FACT )

this seriously limits the multimedia capabilities of the Wii , this shoudln't limit the Wii's gaming capabilities unless an MMORPG is introduced onto the console.
although Nitnendo may introduce a wii HD in the future when there is a real need for it , right now not really...

LACK OF DVD PLAYBACK , Next Gen optical format.(FACT)

The XBOX 360 and the PS3 are boasting the ability to play either next gen format the Blu-Ray and the HD-DVD , the Wii currently isn't even able to
play a DVD at the moment , but to my understanding this is possible with a firmware update or an external pherical.

Poor Graphics and power in comparison to PS3 , 360.(FACT)

The 360 and PS3 are over 5X more powerfull then their predecessors while the Wii could be seen as up to 2X as powefull as the GC as most , whilst
it is still a big hit regardless this - point could really prove to be fatal within the next 2 years. There has already been reports of ports being
impossible to bring to the Wii because of it's lack of power (assassins creed to name one).

Poor Quality:Garbage ration in relation to games.(OPINION)

There are quite a killer exclusives that nintendo can boast about such as Zelda , SMG , red steel etc but the amount of garbage nintendo DS is somewhat of a disappointment for Wii owners , not really too much of a downside because there is still a good range of quality titles to compensate.


Growing Piracy scene for the Wii(FACT/OPINION)

For some this may be seen as a huge plus but in actual fact it massively damages Nintendo and the consumer in the long run , piracy for the Wii scares away developers , makes games more expensive , reduces nintendo's profitability and generally isn't a good thing for anyone at the end of the day.A quick search ona torrent site shows 4,000 downloaders of SMG (i'm sure the actual number of people downloading SMG is much greater) this translates into millions of $$$$ lost. There isn't much nitendo can do about this I believe.

Gimmicky/Flawed FPS's on the Wii


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The problem I have with it [Red Steel] and other Wii shooters is that I can't lay my right hand down, not for one second, without the camera flying up or down," writes Louis Bedigian. "The consequence is disorienting, frustrating, and after getting used to it, just plain annoying.

Maybe this problem has been resolved on later FPS games , I unno. This could easily change in the future though with more developer innovation, this could easily be turned into a + point.

Next Up , PS3

Many games are delayed up to months after rival consoles have it(FACT)

This is going to pose a huge problem for Sony especially with multi platform games , exclusives won't be as much of a problem because they're only available on the PS3 but then the delays alone could be sufficient reason for the PS3 failing in this gen.

A Poorer library of PS3 games (OPINION)

there is a number of factors the contribute to this , the PS3's difficulty to develop for , the PS3's later release date ( in comparison the 360) and other things. The 360 it's closest competitor probably boasts a better line-up of games currently and there are reports of multi-platform games appearing better on the 360. ofcourse future exclusives and increasing developer understanding of the console could change this.

PS3 17% Market Share(FACT)

It would take alot of effort from Sony's side if they are going to dominate the market at any point of this Generation , despite the PS3 currently beating it's closest rival XBOX in sales in Europe ,japan and nearing the sales gap between itself and the Wii. Both the 360 and the Wii have a much larger user base than the PS3 so even in the scenario where the PS3 was to outsell both consoles it would have to maintain this for quite a while for a decent market share.

Possibility of Blu-Ray loosing the HD-DVD (OPINION)

with the current release of the sub $200 HD-DVD players this could be the end for the Blu-Ray's dominance as we know it.Considering one of the main selling points of the PS3 is it's blu-ray player.

Wii beating PS3 2:1 in japan.(FACT)

Sony was traditionally the main console seller in Japan however it apears the the Jap's have decided to embrace the Wii much more than they have the PS3 , despite reports of the PS3 closing the sales gap on the Wii , the Wii is still far off in the distance in terms of it's sales.

PS3's Price (FACT/OPINION)

Maybe this - is becoming less and less of an issue but even the wide belief that the PS3 is an expensive console is a downside , although considering everything that is included maybe it's worth it.

The PS3's Size/Weight(OPINION)


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This may or may not matter to you, but it's a bit large, and it's a bit heavy. Weighing in at around 11 pounds, the PS3 is the size of a really thick textbook. If you have to move it around, it'll start getting annoying.

.I'm not sure of how much of a problem this is for other people, for me personally it doesn't present much of a problem .

Powerful with 8 cells but lack of RAM(FACT/OPNION)


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256MB of system memory seems like too little. Based on my PC gaming experiences, some games use more than twice that. It may be different on the PS3, but I can't see why. In fact, with 8 cores running simultaneously, I'd imagine you'd want more memory, not less.

When I saw this 256 MB figure I was kinda worried , even my 5 year old computer has 1GB of ram . with XMB running and all those other background processes I don't exactly know how damaging this will be to PS3 game play. I haven't heard any reports of it having any damaging effects so far though.

CELLS (OPINION/UNPROVEN)

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The Cell processor looks great on paper, but IBM claims 10 to 20 percent yields when they actually try to manufacture it. Your PS3 may actually come with only 7 of the 8 cores working; Sony will accept any processor with at least 7 cores working. And if one of the cores dies...well, I hope your warranty's still active.

I won't comment on this because I don't know how valid this is , I haven't seen any proof of this being true though.

Now for the 360

Fully utilising the XBOX 360 can be expensive.(OPINION)

-XBOX live 12 months subscription £35
-Wifi £60 ( optional but much more convenient for gaming )
-HD-DVD Drive £115 ( For next gen HD-DVD)
(prices based on amazon.co.uk , one of the lowest possible prices for new hardware)

Fully utilised 360 costing between £450-£510 ($900-$1020) which is more than it's competitors.Although you could run your 360 perfectly fine without these things(Maybe you might need a fan at most)

XBOX 360 has quite a few Hardware related problems.(FACT)

RROD , Disc Read error to name a couple , this seems to have plagued many XBOX 360 users and the problem still hasn't been rectified with newer XBOX ELITE. The exact % of 360 failure is unsure (it's rumoured to be 33%) but with the sheer volume of reported 360 hardware failures it is a problem that needs to be addressed.The extended warranty should keep XBOX owners at ease for a while longer , with 1billion set aside maybe they'll replace the current 360's with newer 65nm ones.

Many 360 exclusives going to appear on a PC near you(OPINION/FACT)

Big titles such as Halo 1 , Halo 2 have appeared on the PC after their XBOX releases , it's possible Halo 3 will be on the PC next year. there are a range of XBOX 360 destined for PC screens however i'm advised that there are some exclusives they will remain just that "exclusive". The 360 performs better than most PC's anyway so it's not that much of a downer.

360 PIRACY WILL COST MICROSOFT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS(FACT)

Looking @ a popular torrent site I see that a XBOX 360 game named The Darkness is being downloaded by 60,000 people X $60.00 that they should have paid will = 3.6 Million in losses ( although considering not all of the people downloading the game may have bought or may still buy it , the losses may not be as great) But assuming each piracy will cost microsoft 1mil per game they are looking @ losses of at least 100Mill for every hundred games they release.

XBOX 360 performing poorly in Japan

The XBOX series has traditionally performed badly in Japan , without killer titles that apeal to the Jap's (mainly RPG's sicne they aren't as interested in FPS's) then the 360 might as well not be sold in that region. I can see Micrsoft turning this around but not without investing serious $$$ into development of games that the JAPS love, they have traditionaly embraced Sony and Nintendo so this would be in the realms of miraculous if MS could pull this off.

Not enough USB Ports (OPINION/FACT)


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As I said, there's only one USB port on the back, and in a lot of cases, that's going to be tied up with the USB Wi-Fi accessory. That leaves only the two USB ports on the front left available to plug in such accessories as the video camera (coming soon). Toss in another wired controller, and your 360 is full up--and looking untidy, with wires sprouting from the front.

I read on Max Console that you need a USB hub to play the special edition guitar hero , although it's provided with it.This won't really limit the 360 that much though.

SPECIAL THANKS TO...
MAX CONSOLE
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AND OTHER SOURCES I CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO REMEMBER

MORE UPDATES IN THE NEAR FUTURE , PLEASE HELP ME UPADTE BY PM'ING ME.
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post Nov 6 2007, 11:26 AM

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Thats the point for Wii for me (and even NDSL), playing mostly cute cute games to relax instead playing those high tense games such as Need for Speed, Resident Evil etc. I myself like the idea (call me coward or childish)

I had to admit that I am a little bit disappointed with PS3 sales and marketing. However, as a lifelong PS fans, I am confident it will bounce back because, hey I am not alone on this PS fan things. The games however is a problem as not many games are just dedicated to PS3. However, I am sure that a lot of people will just buy the console just for the Final Fantasy , Gran Turismo and those super duper famous PS dedicated game. Finally, let's just hope that there is a size scale down version in the future for PS3.

Be remember though, PS3 is the state of the art.


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post Nov 6 2007, 11:39 AM

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post Nov 6 2007, 12:34 PM

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i believe this guy think that it can increase post count by copypasta laugh.gif

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post Nov 6 2007, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Nov 6 2007, 01:34 PM)
i believe this guy think that it can increase post count by copypasta laugh.gif
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Common man this is a good thread isnt it ? icon_idea.gif sharing knowledge its fun lol icon_rolleyes.gif whistling.gif
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post Nov 6 2007, 01:08 PM

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tis one i agree, its much better than wat u posted
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post Nov 6 2007, 01:25 PM

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why no sauce? this is plagiarism.
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post Nov 6 2007, 01:35 PM

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He just want try to share the source with us, but i believe that he's copycat skill is not that bad too.
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post Nov 6 2007, 01:41 PM

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Give him a break larrr...he doesn't bring any harm. We have other important issues to dwell on...like a fraudster that keeps popping up in Console Couch after numerous permban tongue.gif
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*cough cough* so helpful.... thanks for the input.. *cough cough*..
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post Nov 6 2007, 02:14 PM

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For the post to be right, the poster should hv experience all of the console...not just judging from other ppl's view only. I for one can't say much about other console since I only own the nintendo wii n ndsl since they hv more games of my choice and I'm already 30yrs old tongue.gif
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Nov 6 2007, 03:51 PM)
nowdays no need hands on aredi, got internet, CTRl key and C,V button will do
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post Nov 6 2007, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(bEaSt WaRs @ Nov 5 2007, 11:43 PM)
Common man this is a good thread isnt it ?  icon_idea.gif sharing knowledge its fun lol icon_rolleyes.gif  whistling.gif
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No it's not, because the "info" in the first post has many mistakes and just reeks of ignorance. But i guess that's what copypasta people read anyway lol.
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post Nov 6 2007, 03:50 PM

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post Nov 6 2007, 04:22 PM

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hahaha...i like it when u all start saying bad thing at each other...stop it or others will join me..
kamon la guys...at least appreciate first , then give some comment...show your hidden good ethic... u guys good at giving a comments...all your comment is usefull and good....but sometime try to throw it using a good way...other people also have emotion that we must keep it good...so please don't just throw it without thinking other feeling..really sad when i read how u wrote your comment..but it's good comment, just not in the right road..tq
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every console has it good and bad point that how is it there is no perfect console i believe, but still copypasta like u will never learn yawn.gif
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Nov 6 2007, 05:37 PM)
every console has it good and bad point that how is it there is no perfect console i believe, but still copypasta like u will never learn  yawn.gif
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i think the one who never learn is u.....

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