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post Dec 15 2024, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(bigman @ Dec 13 2024, 01:19 PM)
ERL also got monthly pass tickets... of course the price wont be cheap as Rapid My50... is an alternative for people to choose...better than only one option to travel...example... ERL Salak tingggi to Putrjaya Sentral (interchange with MRT Putrajaya Line) will cost you RM100 for monthly pass... plus RM50 per month for MRT plus car park RM4 per day ...total around RM230 per month.... considered very affordable...

The population in this southern part is growing fast... but the landed price at Cyberjaya (freehold) generally beyond affordability for  majority malaysian... can choose area like dengkil, serenia, kota warisan which still can get decent size of landed with more affordable price

Frankly speaking, this area (Cyberjaya, South Puchong, Dengkil, Kota Warisan, Serenia...)has much potential compared Semenyih, Bukit Raja....
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It is easier to go to KL from Kajang-Semenyih compared to Kota Warisan-Serenia-Dengkil-Cyberjaya area
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post Dec 15 2024, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Dec 15 2024, 09:39 AM)
Just curious how you compare? Maybe for Kota warisan it's further already, but they can take ERL to kl fairly quick.

If you are talking about driving, I think you shouldn't put cyberjaya in that group. From cyberjaya can get on MEX and not sure how is it not easy. 😂

On weekend and non rush hour on weekdays, I can get to bangsar, klcc in 30mins from my house in cyberjaya.
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ERL is too expensive for daily use. I used to lived in Tamarind and work in KLCC and it killing my pocket 😂

Now i live in Bandar Tek Semenyih and MRT with my50 pass is better for the budget. I also have KTM Komuter for alternative.

The key word is plenty of options.

Driving wise both Cyberjaya and my current home is 30km++ from my current workplace in KLCC but if I still live Cyberjaya I need to use MEX highway which is damn crazy jam everytime even in saturday. And there is no other viable good alternative for me to run away

From semenyih i have plenty of options, using Cheras highway which practically toll free, the SILK highway, SUKE or even PLUS highway .. and EKVE (20++minute KLCC) opening soon… jam in those highway of course but you have many options to play around depending on your time and budget…. which Cyberjaya cant offer

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post Dec 15 2024, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(soonvee @ Dec 15 2024, 01:11 PM)
Huh ? Is mex highway jam on Saturday? So far I know only weekday peak hours is congested
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Yeah since more and more development completed .. esp since Serenia and Kota Warisan area opened
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post Dec 16 2024, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Dec 15 2024, 10:51 PM)
Well, good for you that you able to save more. It's just preference on which works best for you.

I used to live in Puchong (the golden mile) area. It's a very convenient area, even walking distance to LRT.. but somehow I prefer Cyberjaya biggrin.gif

It's so nice to be able to get most of the shopping, groceries and occasional dining out without heavy traffic, life is so much calmer and comfortable here in Cyberjaya. Yet there are still nice grocers and cafes around, which to me feels like having the city offerings but in a more laid back environment. That's quality to me. Occasionally I go to KL on weekends and rarely face heavy traffic. Even if there is, its just slow moving from Bukit Jalil to Kuchai area.

Since this is a forum for PB, back to topic....I'm interested to see how it will change the landscape of Cyberjaya. PB's land is separated by Lingkaran Purajaya from other part of Cyberjaya, so it might feel like isolated on it's own and not part of Cyberjaya.

However, its a strategic location which is easily accessible from Lingkaran Putrajaya (ELITE) and just next to MEX.

Anyway, new landed properties around including leasehold Puchong or Cyber Valley already around these price
2 storey terrace 1.0 mil
3 storey terrace 1.3 mil
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I hope they build a flyover connected to Cyberjaya proper .. like what Gamuda doing for their Cove

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post Dec 16 2024, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(soonvee @ Dec 16 2024, 12:09 AM)
Not right or wrong if you choose to stay closing with your circle of friend which close to town for the convenience of social activity.

As far as I understand, high paying aviation industry only exist at KLIA instead of SUBANG airport (please correct me if I m wrong) and those area you mentioned are consider 2nd tier accomodation housing area compared to Cyberjaya and you hardly find an high income earners like engineers /pilot /senior management ppl staying there when they can afford at Cyberjaya landed property due to vibrancy of the township
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Lot of high paying aviation ppl buy Nilai Spring golf area or the semi d or bungalow at Enstek
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post Jan 30 2025, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(dragenet @ Jan 26 2025, 06:53 AM)
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PKNS is building a 18 holes golf course in Cyberjaya. It will be completed with many facilities like clubhouse,hotel, sport complex, driving range and etc.

It's only 5 minutes away from Parkcity Botanika.
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This is lazy by PKNS Cyber Valley dev team… state gov ask you to built a techology and industrial park that piggy back tech companies in Cyberjaya .. but they decided a golf course is good for 2024 … while other developers actually long ditching the golf course/property concept back in 2010
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post Jan 31 2025, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(dragenet @ Jan 31 2025, 01:32 AM)
This is same formula that's proven working for Kota Damansara. Why not Cyber Valley ? Now KD Seri Selangor golf course land price increased 100x fold. PKNS is selling it, and take a small portion to build another golf course here at much cheaper land price. I see this is a very smart move.
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Lot of golf courses nowadays is converted to land housing development as it provide better profitability per acres and nowadays ppl prefer acres of pristine parks instead of golf courses .. and it is telling none of the top 5 developers in the country is building golf courses as component of their development. Not to mention it will bad for their ESG score card due to enviromental impact. PKNS still living back in 2006 developer mentality.
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post Feb 1 2025, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(dragenet @ Jan 31 2025, 10:18 PM)
That's because it's time to reap what they sow. Land price increased 100x fold, why not. Mature area sell off golf course, new development area build new golf course, it's logical. 30 years later sell again. Klang valley still very much short of golf courses.
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There is a lot of new township areas in Rawang, Sungai Buloh, Semenyih, Kota Warisan, Cyberjaya, Puncak Alam, Telok Panglima Garang spouting everywhere by top 5 developers like the Elminas, Ecos, Gamudas.. built by giant of properties but guess what .. none comes with golf courses!

Golf courses actually a sunset development as the amount of revenue does not generate enough revenue compared to nature park based development which started by Desa Park City and SP Eco and now the properties trend

It is not surprising PKNS with its large strategic landbank is struggling and hardly making money all this years and their product innovation is way behind like 20 years from the top developers

Remember this are the same company that come with the ill fated ‘Raudhah City’ in CyberValley. Who on earth comes with the concept of ‘islamic’ properties.. even the Kelantanese and east coast state developers will not come with this 🤣

Now they go back in time machine and building golf course 😅

If not the state gov helped by changing their postcode to Cyberjaya post office, they will be struggling to sell their development .. even with that their former ‘Raudhah City’ now rebranded to Aurora still not fully sold
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post Feb 2 2025, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(dragenet @ Feb 1 2025, 06:43 PM)
PKNS golf course has a specific purpose to provide accessible, sustainable and affordable golfing experience for the rakyat of Selangor. It has a different agenda comparing  to private company. Not solely making profit. You have to look at a bigger picture.

Cash out Seri Selangor (the only golf course under PKNS) and build a new golf course at a fraction of the profit, it's completely logical and continue to serve the rakyat of Selangor.
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Golf course is not a sustainable, from land usage, low beneficial effect to community and cost extensive.. not to mention bad for environment .. there is a reason why lot of countries all over the world already dismantling golf courses

The ‘accessible’ golf is just a term used by gov to justify their tax payer money spending where it only filled by their state related companies bosses to entertain their client..

If they really really want to build a ‘rakyat’ golf course they can build it in Sekinchan or any other far flung location.

Building it in Selangor Cyber Valley where the main aims is build a smart city that can attract high tech industry and smart sustainable city for high tech industry employees .. it just shows that PKNS admitting their failure

The state gov allocated the land to build a tech enclave that can rival Cyberjaya.. not to build golf course that only benefits a few
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post Feb 3 2025, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(dragenet @ Feb 3 2025, 08:11 AM)
There are many golf courses in Silicon Valley too. It add on amenities for the community, it's a good thing.
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More and more being closed in California-Silicon Valley area … and Malaysia following suit with all of our top developers removed golf courses from their masterplan and planning to close the existing ones

Talking about Silicon Valley, even the famous San Jose Silicon Valley golf course is planned to be removed as it doesn’t really benefit the community but the few

https://www.siliconvalley.com/2024/06/21/sa...ty-economy/amp/

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/27/world/ab...2e-spc-scn-intl

https://www.hoover.org/research/will-califo...ic-golf-courses

https://www.desertsun.com/story/sports/golf...ing/7327851002/

https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/10/10/plea...-want-more/amp/

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post Feb 6 2025, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(dragenet @ Feb 3 2025, 08:59 PM)
Do you know how many total golf courses there? In contrast Malaysia is short of golf course. The point you mention about developers not building more courses, the sole reason it's because land are becoming very expensive, also construction cost. The numbers don't add up to build new housing area with golf course. Existing mature area with well kept golf course, still selling at a premium price. Of course the golf course itself is a land bank, one day when the time is right, they will cash out. It's a sure win strategy.
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Golf courses is selling at premium price? Nope.. only certain location.. if you go through the ads there is plenty golf courses is put on sale for so many years… the Kajang Hill Golf is bleeding before successfully converted to Tropicana Heights

And you know why there is demand to rebuild golf courses? because in the current days, top developers finally realised that building premium and pristine parks like in Desa Park City is much more cost effective and have better environmental image that can elevate your property more than building golf courses ..

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post Jun 2 2025, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Jun 1 2025, 08:33 PM)
There will be connecting bridge from Persiaran semarak api. But it's not under developer, it should be under cyberview to build that.

As I can see, the land is cleared but I have no idea when they will start the construction.
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And there is no reason …why on earth Cyberview wanna build that
There will be zero chances

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post Jun 2 2025, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ May 29 2025, 05:53 PM)
It is cyberjaya
Gazetted under cyberjaya land
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No.. its considered Cyberjaya but not ‘real’ Cyberjaya under Cyberview masterplan. More like PKNS Selangor Cyber Valley project which is also leasehold

If you go to cyberview office anything on the other side of the highway is not under them. Setia Eco Glade already on the border of Cyberjaya

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post Jun 2 2025, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Chady @ Feb 14 2025, 01:10 PM)
If anyone is looking for bigger land size (ie semi-D) in Cyberjaya, perhaps at cheaper price psf than PCB, you may consider Allegro.

UEM Sunrise will be launching semi-d, named Allegro in Symphony Hills, built-up from 2,866 sq ft to 5,114 sq ft.

https://www.uemsunrise.com/property/region/...216345573030126

It's 5km from PCB
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Symphony Hill is real cyberjaya development with freehold land under Cyberview.

Not real Cyberjaya. The fact it is leasehold means it is not.. similar like PKNS project in Selangor Cyber Valley.

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post Jun 3 2025, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Jun 3 2025, 12:43 AM)
Because they handle the development of cyberjaya. And this piece of land is under cyberjaya flagship zone.

The bridge is in the masterplan. Simple. It's up to you to believe what you want, based on the limited facts you know.
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I worked in Setia Haruman last time (2010-2012) and the map and model is what I saw everytime I stepped inside.

It never been in the original plan. It may changed after it is passed from Setia Haruman to Cyberview or later I dont know - maybe you have more info.

What I know is the PCB land is gazetted under MOF under Cyberjaya city act but it always planned to be sold and Setia Haruman and later Cyberview does not included it in their flagship plan.

We always have issue last time to get anyone interested in that land as the developer need to fork up huge money to do the land work (some portion is a swamp land) and also the money they need to come out to build the ramp to Cyberjaya.

Setia Haruman (last time) and Cyberview do not have any obligation to build the flyover. Thats a fact.
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post Jun 3 2025, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jun 3 2025, 07:40 AM)
During my last meet up with MPS this is under cyberjaya and is freehold
Under which meeting was it changed

Cyber alley is totally different it was never under Cyberjaya , was selangor’s government leasehold land and they applied to change to Cyberjaya namesake then for sales purposes
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It is not changed to ‘cyberjaya’ to be correct. It still under Dengkil.
They simply change the post office code to point under ‘Cyberjaya’ to market it better.
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post Jun 3 2025, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(bigman @ Jun 3 2025, 11:09 AM)
Real Cyberjaya all freehold land to be exact?
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All the land under Setia Haruman (now Cyberview) is freehold
If its leasehold it is not under the cyberjaya original flagship and may added later by Cyberview for JV purposes

Example is Cyberjaya City Centre (leasehold under MRCB) and ParkCity Botanica (leasehold under ParkCity )


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post Jun 4 2025, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(typofigures @ Jun 4 2025, 10:19 AM)
It's always visually presented as part of their master plan.

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Master plan and cyberjaya flagship area under Setia Haruman/Cyberview is two different thing

The land you round up is indeed part of Cyberjaya but the land is under MOF previously and leasehold and not part of the flagship. It is always marked to be sold to anyone interested.
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post Jun 5 2025, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jun 5 2025, 09:39 AM)
You are saying Parkcity Botanika is leasehold ?
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PCB developer said it is freehold

Not sure if they carved out part of it as freehold as i remember the land across the highway and the cyberjaya city centre site project is leasehold

 

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