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 Why Dating is Hard for Guys, and why women should make it easier

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MCBFUHO
post Oct 3 2024, 04:55 PM

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That is why i never try normal dating anymore, I believe like everything soon it will be a commodity moving forward including love and sex unfortunately.

Like everything else in life, when demand and supply is not equal. People will monetise on it.

I myself given up normal dating and straight to sugar dating, and I dont think I can go back
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post Oct 4 2024, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Oct 3 2024, 05:15 PM)
Thanks for sharing your perspective.

Personally, I think normal dating and sugar dating fullfil two different sets of needs and goals.

With normal dating (between mature men and women), there are deeper emotions involved with medium-to long-term relationship goals, social connections and mutual growth. It is a romantic partnership that can last for years to a lifetime. However, it also comes with lots of commitment and own sets of challenges.

Sugar dating is more to fulfilling physical needs and some emotional needs, using money. As long as a man has money, he can get as many sugar babies as he wants. Some are happy with the choices they get, while some feel the void deep down.

As to which dating mode to choose, it depends on what men are seeking in their body, heart and mind.

Ultimately, we humans always want to choose the path that makes us feel the most fulfilled, depending on which stage we are in life.
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I beg to differ

If you see how China match making market, they always be upfront of what theyre making and what they expect their partner is making. If they match financially, then only consider emotional commitment. I feel this is very well done, just that Malaysian girls arent bold enough voice their needs.

I feel sugar dating is a very honest way of dating. I feel i am happier and more fulfilled emotionally and physically
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post Oct 6 2024, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Oct 4 2024, 01:56 PM)
I'm confused by your terminologies. Matchmaking and sugar dating are different.

Matchmaking: The goal of matchmaking is to help individuals find a long-term romantic partner, often with the intention of building a committed relationship, such as marriage or a serious partnership. Matchmaking focuses on compatibility in terms of values, goals, and lifestyle, and it is typically aimed at fostering a deep emotional connection.

Sugar Dating: Sugar dating involves a more transactional relationship where one party (the "sugar baby") receives financial support, gifts, or other material benefits from the other party (the "sugar daddy" or "sugar mama"). While emotional or romantic connections can develop, the primary goal is often the exchange of companionship or intimacy for financial support, rather than a long-term commitment or emotional bond.

So, which are you referring to?
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Just voicing my opinion that on the platform, I am very honest bout what I want, i put tags there "serious relationship, exclusive, travel companion, etc etc" something serious instead of pay per meet, or weekly/monthly allowances, for me that platform enables me to be very honest about what im looking for, and unfortunately those "baby" there is referred as sugar baby which might differ from your term sugar baby. Mine is referring to that specific platform

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So a lot of people thought that I am having a sugarbaby, but to me i deem it different. She gives me gf/companionship/everything, i told her i want to have some personal time as and when i want, while im working i need to focus etc etc. She agreed we get together.

I am aiming to have a deep emotional connection (which i deem i received such connection from her) I myself at the moment no looking to get into marriage as I dont believe in it. My ex (conventional girlfriend) is aware and she is ok as well
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post Oct 7 2024, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Oct 6 2024, 04:02 PM)
Ah, then you're using the platform for matchmaking purpose. It's not sugar-dating if you're looking for genuine relationship and emotional connection.
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Maybe youre right. I am using the platform for matchmaking and not sugar dating smile.gif. The thing about these platform is that there is always better choice and prettier girls. How do i control the temptation.

Not trying to advertise anyone, but recently tantan is loaded with crazy hot babes. Now i am tempted. I know is not right, but how should i get away and what should i do?

I am not chatting up with new girls just the previous older matches before i get with my girl. Since a lot of the people here told me that just enjoy what I have with my current girl. Should i have contingency plan?
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post Oct 8 2024, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ralna @ Oct 7 2024, 06:43 PM)
Your question makes me recall the conversations I previously had with several male friends. They used dating apps to flirt with and meet hot and sexy girls, and also paid for sex... and they told me about their lustful adventures. LOL.

Feeling amused, I listened to their stories of meeting different girls via apps or social media, what they did with those college girls or China/Viet/Thai girls or local prostitutes, how much they paid, what services they chose, how they felt, etc. (Yeah, I'm a good listener and open-minded  laugh.gif ).

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As a woman/friend, I don't think I am in a position to tell men what to do, because they know what they are doing.

& Even if I tell them not to do it, they will still do it. rolleyes.gif

My only concern for them is... what they want versus what they do highly contradict each other. There is a strong dissonance.

What they want: a girlfriend who loves them, supports them, encourages them... then become wife and have family together...

What they do: play with hot chicks and pay for sex

Reason for doing so: Need some women to temporarily fill the void, settle their biological urges, and get rid of boredom and loneliness with some fun while waiting for the right woman to appear.

I think this is a common dilemma among men. Young men, especially, with raging hormones in their body and make them crave for women and sxx.

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Here's my simplified conversation with a male friend in April 2024. He used dating apps, Telegram, paid for sex and did lots of bad bad naughty naughty stuff...

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Years ago, my ex-fiancé was upfront with me about how he used to tackle girls of different nationalities in his younger days. He came to 3 conclusions:

1) Girls who are too easy to get aren't attractive at all, no matter how good looking. He only pursued women who were virgins or had one ex-bf at most.

2) He never paid for sex because he felt it was disgusting to share the same woman with different men. Yeah, the prostitute looked pretty and sexy and got him aroused, but when it was time to do the actual act, his lil head refused and softened. Just yucks, he said. He couldn't do it. He didn't understand why other men could do it.

3) Sex without love is just so empty. Sex with love is the best sex ever.

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Last month, my new guy shared with me that he never paid for sex. He was highly self-disciplined and DIY only because he didn't wanna get STD or HIV. & if we are to have sxx, I need to get tested first.

Me: Okay... If we reach that stage of intimacy, yeah, I will get myself tested to give you the full assurance... (then he felt happy).

He told me that even when he was offered free sex, with women inviting him over and stripping themselves naked to seduce him, he said he touched la out of curiosity, but he wasn't aroused sexually. He just felt they were so cheapskate, and it was such a huge turn-off. He rejected their advances and went home. He didn't even take off his clothes.

This testifies the Chinese saying... 好男人不用管,坏男人管不了  laugh.gif
(meaning: good men don't need to be controlled, while bad men cannot be controlled.)

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There's a reason these guys whom I date are in the Top 10%: they don't let their lil heads control them and sabotage themselves. Yeah, they play and flirt la, but they won't degrade themselves and their bodies with all sorts of crappy women. They have standards and criteria as to who they allow them into their world, and who can have access to their bodies. Not every woman can sleep with them.

Such good men are so rare nowadays... but they do exist. Most people don't know because... these men won't share much info about themselves with other men, and they also won't share much with just any women.

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So, for you (and other guys out there reading this), you decide which type of men you want to be and what type of women you want to let into your world.

You either value yourself, or you don't-- and with each choice comes its own pros and cons, short-term and long-term consequences.
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Love your sharing, and your courage to share everything.

Question: you mention you only date the top 10% of the good men, I agree and respect your decision. My question is what quality and characteristic one should have to be deemed a good men. I know is a lot but what is the critical ones. Reason being is that I think i am quite good to a certain extend. But bad in other ways. e.g. I dont drink (never had one sip of alcohol), i dont smoke (never had a puff of anything), I dont gamble (except CNY, thats no choice coz if i do that - no friend), i never go for paid sex (coz like you i believe sex with feelings is the best and i dont like public toilet). I am bad as in I consistently think of having more than 1 girl even if i have 1, and I am into sugar dating (i think, but you clarified that might be not so can ignore that)

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Oct 7 2024, 09:59 PM)
This is what I've been trying to tell some of the men here, mystery being one of them laugh.gif

Its 2 different games, what they're doing is practising football to get better at badminton.
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DIY can only help a certain amount, after that the need for sex becomes a requirement for mental and emotional health. Every guy is different, and being men we can ignore/repress its effects. However it will still manifest in many different ways.
hmm.gif You sure he not ghey ah? His story sounds kinda BS la, especially if he no experience.
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Yes i believe DIY can only help to a certain extend, the real thing is for mental and emotional health.


 

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