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post Oct 2 2024, 12:53 PM, updated 2y ago

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https://theindependent.sg/empty-johor-bahru...emic-once-more/

Beribu ribu tahniah!

Typical Msian (ok vendor salah) incompetence (this time with VEP) results in empty Johor streets.

Note: Sg top investor in Msia and source of tourism revenue.



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Johor businesses should start focusing on locals then. innocent.gif
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like we give a shit on sellers with tourists as their main market.
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post Oct 2 2024, 12:57 PM

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Pemerintah Sg takes a different approach 2 vendors. They will take ownership and guide or penalize vendors.


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post Oct 2 2024, 12:58 PM

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Anthony better think how to answer to YDPA and Johorian
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Like Singaporeans care about the 15cents difference.

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probably many singaporean car can't get VEP cos traffic summon berlambak for years no pay.
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Wantanho rm8 at hawker centre .finish in 2 scoop.
So freaking expensive !
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QUOTE(Chaud @ Oct 2 2024, 12:58 PM)
syukur causeway clear for the first time

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Good more Malaysian driver.hahha
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:01 PM)
probably many singaporean car can't get VEP cos traffic summon berlambak for years no pay.
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This.....i happily drive today........tq Anthony Loke.

To all shops who focus on tourist and foreigners...Padan mukak......


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post Oct 2 2024, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Oct 2 2024, 12:56 PM)
like we give a shit on sellers with tourists as their main market.
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Hello! Singkie tourists pump 30+ RM to 40+RM billion into Msia economy each year. Thats not including their investments.

They leave, Msia economy tanks.
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post Oct 2 2024, 01:04 PM

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Now singaporkean will behave
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just as planned to control money outflow to johor
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Bayat dulu saman...baru masuk Johor

They dont come Johor, we just cut water, supply we cut power grid...settle ma

Why nak takut dengan orang asing.
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QUOTE(NEP1971 @ Oct 2 2024, 12:58 PM)
Anthony better think how to answer to YDPA and Johorian
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No need......its a good thing......Johor is safer without road hooligans from SG.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:04 PM)
Hello! Singkie tourists pump 30+ RM to 40+RM billion into Msia economy each year. Thats not including their investments.

They leave, Msia economy tanks.
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And where did you get that statistics? Source?
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post Oct 2 2024, 01:06 PM

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short term hiccup for long term benefits bah.
Yes they should implement it better and seamless.
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post Oct 2 2024, 01:06 PM

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I can attest to that. Just got my VEP activated yesterday. Applied in March 2024. Newspaper said less 20% traffic. Would be more than 70%. Now at Bukit Indah Oriental Cafe with only 3 mins waiting. Usually wait long long.
Warga /k should be happy, as no more SG plate come and 'steal' their hak kami RON97.
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Correct correct. Almost everything so expensive by miles compare to melaka jonker walk
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Oct 2 2024, 12:56 PM)
like we give a shit on sellers with tourists as their main market.
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next time tell the tourism minister to remove all sg visitor from their report card.
In no time this country tourism become top 3 country (from behind)
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post Oct 2 2024, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:04 PM)
Hello! Singkie tourists pump 30+ RM to 40+RM billion into Msia economy each year. Thats not including their investments.

They leave, Msia economy tanks.
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Leave to? Hahahah
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Oct 2 2024, 01:07 PM)
lel
next time tell the tourism minister to remove all sg visitor from their report card.
In no time this country tourism become top 3 country (from behind)
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are you implying that business made for local cant attract tourists?'
tourist trap doesnt give much benefit to the locals, its only enriched the business owners.
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cukur less sinki swarming their cars here
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:04 PM)
Hello! Singkie tourists pump 30+ RM to 40+RM billion into Msia economy each year. Thats not including their investments.

They leave, Msia economy tanks.
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they are using their money in exchange of goods and services,not like they give us buta2.
kena extra ruling also kecoh macam dunia nak kiamat. i really sokong abang loke on this, they really think everything need to favors them meh?
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Oct 2 2024, 01:09 PM)
Leave to? Hahahah
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Many places:

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/10-popula...-030017943.html

Thanks to the Sgd. Always remember: Msia to Sinkie is a "convenience".


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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:01 PM)
probably many singaporean car can't get VEP cos traffic summon berlambak for years no pay.
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Lol, hahaha, so true.

Kiasu is like that one, inside own country, they behave well, once go outside, especially next door, all their good mannerisms out the window.
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Are they so poor until cannot pay vep?
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QUOTE(froggyx @ Oct 2 2024, 01:05 PM)
No need......its a good thing......Johor is safer without road hooligans from SG.
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post Oct 2 2024, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(froggyx @ Oct 2 2024, 01:06 PM)
And where did you get that statistics? Source?
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Just google.

Sg investments in Msia (they are usually numba 1 or 2):
https://www.statista.com/statistics/654031/...%20respectively.

Biggest source of tourism for Msia:

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...s-in-2023/94982

https://www.tourism.gov.my/media/view/putra...ncover-malaysia

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QUOTE(zeese @ Oct 2 2024, 01:47 PM)
Are they so poor until cannot pay vep?
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malaysia flip flop wan, sure uturn. they need us more than us needing them.

lel kena official warning on 1st day of VEP implementation, registration also not done. they think abang loke main2 ar?

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 2 2024, 12:53 PM)
https://theindependent.sg/empty-johor-bahru...emic-once-more/

Beribu ribu tahniah!

Typical Msian (ok vendor salah) incompetence (this time with VEP) results in empty Johor streets.

Note: Sg top investor in Msia and source of tourism revenue.
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Mostly those refrain to go to JB now are those violated many Malaysian laws, especially traffic offences with unpaid tickets.
So they don't want to be identified and to pay them.
Singkies go to Msia like hooligans.

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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...re-in-danga-bay

Meow meow..too late. There will be business loses.
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QUOTE(JoeYoung @ Oct 2 2024, 01:06 PM)
I can attest to that. Just got my VEP activated yesterday. Applied in March 2024. Newspaper said less 20% traffic. Would be more than 70%. Now at Bukit Indah Oriental Cafe with only 3 mins waiting. Usually wait long long.
Warga /k should be happy, as no more SG plate come and 'steal' their hak kami RON97.
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what cafe is this? even bkt indah prices are inflated for sporeans? so EB is even worse?
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QUOTE(pokemon @ Oct 2 2024, 01:54 PM)
Mostly those refrain to go to JB now are those violated many Malaysian laws, especially traffic offences with unpaid tickets.
So they don't want to be identified and to pay them.
Singkies go to Msia like hooligans.
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sweat.gif whistling.gif

TS always praise SG 99x but MY will always be neg one

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The power of 3x...

Next time walk and use public transport
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QUOTE(renodiy @ Oct 2 2024, 02:41 PM)
what cafe is this? even bkt indah prices are inflated for sporeans?  so EB is even worse?
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And also strong ringgit. See, told u PMX and DAP doh.gif
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QUOTE(NEP1971 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:49 PM)
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Only 3 kali ganda kah.......??

I earn in GBP lah..........
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:04 PM)
Hello! Singkie tourists pump 30+ RM to 40+RM billion into Msia economy each year. Thats not including their investments.

They leave, Msia economy tanks.
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Lol. johor will tank but i don't think the rest of states will. mostly accomodate local spend
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QUOTE(froggyx @ Oct 2 2024, 05:04 PM)
Only 3 kali ganda kah.......??

I earn in GBP lah..........
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The Vehicle Entry Permit (VEP) system in Malaysia will begin fully enforcing the requirement to pay outstanding traffic summons for foreign vehicles entering the country on January 1, 2025.


Ask pay summons all kecut.
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QUOTE(afoka @ Oct 2 2024, 01:05 PM)
Bayat dulu saman...baru masuk Johor

They dont come Johor, we just cut water, supply we cut power grid...settle ma

Why nak takut dengan orang asing.
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Dumb is real
Another hamas wannaba that think invincible.
Cry father cry mother when repercussions arrive
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You guys should take a look at SG papers and radio. All bashing Malaysian gov incompetence in this VEP implementation. Johor MB also turun padang but at the end is Anthony Loke salah
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 2 2024, 06:59 PM)
Dumb is real
Another hamas wannaba that think invincible.
Cry father cry mother when repercussions arrive
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Some of those dumb people never drive into SG before and just bash cause of 3x or red eye.

In Woodland and Tuas(2nd link) AFTER Malaysia side immigration prior to enter neutral border. There is a mini auto stop that capture the car plate. If want to capture SG plate outstanding summons can be done there. BUT problem is the data not updated.
So now using VEP to do the same thing but processing slow.

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 2 2024, 06:59 PM)
Dumb is real
Another hamas wannaba that think invincible.
Cry father cry mother when repercussions arrive
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Never care..faggot sg the one cry...Malaysian can go anywhere...why Singapore bising much...they can go Aus la dey...they got money wut
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Eventually masuk malaysia also la, in long run worth it
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QUOTE(afoka @ Oct 2 2024, 07:29 PM)
Never care..faggot sg the one cry...Malaysian can go anywhere...why Singapore bising much...they can go Aus la dey...they got money wut
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Be realistic on one capability. The ultimate ignorance is the rejection of something you know nothing about yet refuse to investigate.

On the serious note, singaporean do travel overseas more than malaysian due to strong currency.


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QUOTE(smsid @ Oct 2 2024, 01:42 PM)
Lol, hahaha, so true.

Kiasu is like that one, inside own country, they behave well, once go outside, especially next door, all their good mannerisms out the window.
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Curious though, I have once had an sg customer family come eat.

I guess they traveled to ipoh and back, at night stop at my place

Can eat quite a lot 3 person eat around 6-7 pax bkt. Then gave me rm100 and told me to keep the change coz sedap. Quite polite though... maybe I was lucky?

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Stupid. Want to impose rules but lack commitment pulak..kena mock by sinkapore
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:01 PM)
probably many singaporean car can't get VEP cos traffic summon berlambak for years no pay.
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U r right..stingy singaporean cant pay rm20 to enter. Want to come msia spend like king..puik. btw, how much we have to pay to enter singapore?
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QUOTE(gogocan @ Oct 2 2024, 07:45 PM)
Stupid. Want to impose rules but lack commitment pulak..kena mock by sinkapore
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yea right, as we didnt have enough of people talking behind our back.
time given for them to install those VEP were for years, bila dah bagi clear dateline said sure uturn wan, delay wan. lel expecting people to answer to their email enquiries, so lazy to go office meh? when alot of registration came in short period of time, sure la there will be long delivery time and larger occurrence for mistakes to be made. Wahh we should symphatize on last minute people? sure sure, we must take care of them good2 because they rich.
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:01 PM)
probably many singaporean car can't get VEP cos traffic summon berlambak for years no pay.
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They could only handle 100 online booked interview only, no walk in.

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QUOTE(FappyBird @ Oct 2 2024, 07:44 PM)
Curious though, I have once had an sg customer family come eat.

I guess they traveled to ipoh and back, at night stop at my place

Can eat quite a lot 3 person eat around 6-7 pax bkt. Then gave me rm100 and told me to keep the change coz sedap. Quite polite though... maybe I was lucky?
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Not all Singaporean are kiasu, just minority of them are.

Usually you can spot kiasu when they are shaking their car at petrol station at JB.

Same like rempit, rempit does not represent the average Malaysian.
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Malaysia enforcement with their tidak apa attitude..how sinkapork wanna respect them? Kejap denda kejap warning
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QUOTE(afoka @ Oct 2 2024, 01:05 PM)
Bayat dulu saman...baru masuk Johor

They dont come Johor, we just cut water, supply we cut power grid...settle ma

Why nak takut dengan orang asing.
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and if still dont come over, fire homemade lokets? fafo?
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Another hamas wannaba that think invincible.
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where is the repercussion? dont see anyone crying also.........
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Oct 2 2024, 07:58 PM)
yea right, as we didnt have enough of people talking behind our back.
time given for them to install those VEP were for years, bila dah bagi clear dateline said sure uturn wan, delay wan. lel expecting people to answer to their email enquiries, so lazy to go office meh? when alot of registration came in short period of time, sure la there will be long delivery time and larger occurrence for mistakes to be made. Wahh we should symphatize on last minute people? sure sure, we must take care of them good2 because they rich.
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Yes, it is not like VEP was announced a month ago or something. It was announced years ago but none of them took action to get it done. Why? Because it's malaysia ma .. always uturn, so why bother going through the hassle, right? Now complain this complain that. Don't come over la. Let the local businesses that target on them die .. to let these people know that they should cater for locals not foreigners.

Anyway, it seems like you don't need a VEP to enter malaysia anyway: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malays...%20six%20months.


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I foresee jpj will stop giving warnings too. it's too disruptive to the Johor economy.
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:01 PM)
probably many singaporean car can't get VEP cos traffic summon berlambak for years no pay.
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Lol denial
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Oct 3 2024, 08:44 AM)
Yes, it is not like VEP was announced a month ago or something. It was announced years ago but none of them took action to get it done. Why? Because it's malaysia ma .. always uturn, so why bother going through the hassle, right? Now complain this complain that. Don't come over la. Let the local businesses that target on them die .. to let these people know that they should cater for locals not foreigners.

Anyway, it seems like you don't need a VEP to enter malaysia anyway: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malays...%20six%20months.
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They never even check no scan RFID, it’s just like it never happened lol.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:04 PM)
Hello! Singkie tourists pump 30+ RM to 40+RM billion into Msia economy each year. Thats not including their investments.

They leave, Msia economy tanks.
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it is a win-win for both parties. tarak suka, can fly out to exotic locations like swiss
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Johor businesses should start focusing on locals then.  innocent.gif
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all MNC DC is coming soon in JB.. in fact its building in progress liao...
johor akan maju!!
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QUOTE(OrganicRepublic @ Oct 3 2024, 08:49 AM)
They never even check no scan RFID, it’s just like it never happened lol.
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Haha .. typical la .. why buat extra work when can gaji buta
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Matter of time b4 Johor panics..

Save them!

https://www.todayonline.com/world/open-bord...ohor-businesses
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QUOTE(achong09 @ Oct 3 2024, 08:54 AM)
all MNC DC is coming soon in JB.. in fact its building in progress liao...
johor akan maju!!
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Johor sudah maju. Oh wai- laugh.gif
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Johor sudah maju. Oh wai-  laugh.gif
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terima kasih madani..
undi la madani untuk kemajuan negeri!!
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:01 PM)
probably many singaporean car can't get VEP cos traffic summon berlambak for years no pay.
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This HAHAA

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:32 PM)
Many places:

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/10-popula...-030017943.html

Thanks to the Sgd. Always remember: Msia to Sinkie is a "convenience".
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HAHAHA! You think the cheapskate Singaporeans who come Johor to pump cheap fuel and buy groceries got the money to travel overseas? What a joke. They don't come here also no problem, our economy don't need them!
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I don't see a problem here.
I believe many sgporeans are law abiding citizens.
We're merely extending the enforcement on our side like they do on their side. Surely those with no fines has nothing to worry about, and we're merely weeding out the truants.
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QUOTE(achong09 @ Oct 3 2024, 08:54 AM)
all MNC DC is coming soon in JB.. in fact its building in progress liao...
johor akan maju!!
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better work in mnc in penang ftz. food half price compared to jb cut neck
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where is the repercussion? dont see anyone crying also.........
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U try cut water supply to SG.... Then u know
Mersing plan
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Leniency given to Singkie:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malays...arnings-4656261

Bring on in the sweet sweet Sg dollar...
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Now i can jemur my underwear outside without worrying my underwear will go missing kena curi by singkie underwear pervert.
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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Oct 2 2024, 01:04 PM)
Hello! Singkie tourists pump 30+ RM to 40+RM billion into Msia economy each year. Thats not including their investments.

They leave, Msia economy tanks.
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SG gov berry happy, domestic consumption up by few points. Cukor
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It's better to be self-sustaining than keep on relying on foreigners to boost the economy.
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Be a self sustaining state lah, keep relying on sinkies. These shops with their harga yahudi tutup kedai better.
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 3 2024, 02:38 PM)
U try cut water supply to SG.... Then u know
Mersing plan
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Where is the crying?
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 3 2024, 02:38 PM)
U try cut water supply to SG.... Then u know
Mersing plan
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you tutup our air, we tutup clean water supply to johor.

meanwhile johor is actively making new LRA site and upgrading existing LRAs.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Oct 4 2024, 01:04 PM)
you tutup our air, we tutup clean water supply to johor.

meanwhile johor is actively making new LRA site and upgrading existing LRAs.
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What? U think the reaction is stop supplying processed water.....
Naive dude
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 4 2024, 11:17 PM)
What? U think the reaction is stop supplying processed water.....
Naive dude
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thats what those people in hwz forum said lol.they really think that we cant treat out own water.
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thats what those people in hwz forum said lol.they really think that we cant treat out own water.
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Source from forum? Topkek

See what the minister say

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/sHkZHu74x7dBe1bf/

Mr #LeeKuanYew: “if PAS comes into power…and tries to meddle with the water in Johor Bahru, I’ll move my troops in. I will not wait for the Security Council to solve this little problem”
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Mr Lee’s words above were quoted by former MFA Permanent Secretary Bilahari Kausikan, in a speech he made in Cambridge, recently.

Bilahari points out the harsh realities of our foreign policy and Singapore’s vulnerable position in the region. He paid tribute to our founding leaders Lee Kuan Yew, Goh Keng Swee and S Rajaratnam whose steady hands helped navigate us through some turbulent and dangerous times in the early years.

For small nations, in Bilahari’s words, foreign policy is usually about a series of “not always neat or consistent improvisations to a messy and unpredictable reality’’.

Diplomacy is not all about being pleasant or making oneself agreeable. It’s about defending and advancing Singapore’s interests, preferably by being pleasant and agreeable but if necessary “by any appropriate means’’.

Idealism is important. But all idealism must be rooted in a hard-headed understanding of human nature and power. “Without power nothing can be achieved. And even with power not everything desirable will always be feasible.’’

In his speech, Bilahari recalled how our founding PM once told a former chief of the Malaysian Armed Force that “if PAS comes into power…and tries to meddle with the water in Johor Bahru, I’ll move my troops in. I will not wait for the Security Council to solve this little problem’’.

Singapore has done well in the five decades since independence. As a nation, we cannot be ordinary if we want to be relevant to the world.

He concluded by reminding Singapore that our external environment remains complicated, unstable and dangerous.

Bilahari’s speech is attached. It is worth reading.
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 4 2024, 11:25 PM)
Source from forum? Topkek

See what the minister say

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/sHkZHu74x7dBe1bf/

Mr #LeeKuanYew: “if PAS comes into power…and tries to meddle with the water in Johor Bahru, I’ll move my troops in. I will not wait for the Security Council to solve this little problem”
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Mr Lee’s words above were quoted by former MFA Permanent Secretary Bilahari Kausikan, in a speech he made in Cambridge, recently.

Bilahari points out the harsh realities of our foreign policy and Singapore’s vulnerable position in the region. He paid tribute to our founding leaders Lee Kuan Yew, Goh Keng Swee and S Rajaratnam whose steady hands helped navigate us through some turbulent and dangerous times in the early years.

For small nations, in Bilahari’s words, foreign policy is usually about a series of “not always neat or consistent improvisations to a messy and unpredictable reality’’.

Diplomacy is not all about being pleasant or making oneself agreeable. It’s about defending and advancing Singapore’s interests, preferably by being pleasant and agreeable but if necessary “by any appropriate means’’.

Idealism is important. But all idealism must be rooted in a hard-headed understanding of human nature and power. “Without power nothing can be achieved. And even with power not everything desirable will always be feasible.’’

In his speech, Bilahari recalled how our founding PM once told a former chief of the Malaysian Armed Force that “if PAS comes into power…and tries to meddle with the water in Johor Bahru, I’ll move my troops in. I will not wait for the Security Council to solve this little problem’’.

Singapore has done well in the five decades since independence. As a nation, we cannot be ordinary if we want to be relevant to the world.

He concluded by reminding Singapore that our external environment remains complicated, unstable and dangerous.

Bilahari’s speech is attached. It is worth reading.
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calm down you know i was joking. we are only negotiating for better rate, not threatening to tutup the pipe.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Oct 4 2024, 11:39 PM)
calm down you know i was joking. we are only negotiating for better rate, not threatening to tutup the pipe.
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Now u know the reason that even Mahathir only complaining about the case worldwide but not cut supply.......

Reality is harsh. So be realistic
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QUOTE(dawnreaver @ Oct 2 2024, 12:55 PM)
Johor businesses should start focusing on locals then.  innocent.gif
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this

jb town area cost of living is way higher than kl
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 5 2024, 12:01 AM)
Now u know the reason that even Mahathir only complaining about the case worldwide but not cut supply.......

Reality is harsh. So be realistic
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johor are addicted to cheap treated water from singapore. so singapore always have a upper hand there. but now johor gomen have decided to makes more LRAs (with large spending), things might change. sure you might not being able to drink directly from the tap, but who does that here?
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Oct 3 2024, 08:38 PM)
SG gov berry happy, domestic consumption up by few points. Cukor
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You got a point there
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johor are addicted to cheap treated water from singapore. so singapore always have a upper hand there. but now johor gomen have decided to makes more LRAs (with large spending), things might change. sure you might not being able to drink directly from the tap, but who does that here?
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? U still think the response would be no treated water from SG?
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 5 2024, 12:49 AM)
? U still think the response would be no treated water from SG?
Topkek
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then bring to international court la.
die2 want to protect 3cent for 1000gallon of raw water, buat malu ja.

i bet they are surprised that johor take the most expensive way out now. people on other state also weird why the hell we want to depend on singapore treated water?

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Oct 5 2024, 12:53 AM)
then bring to international court la.
die2 want to protect 3cent for 1000gallon of raw water,buat malu ja.
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Haha.... SG hv been challenging MY to do so
But y Mahathir never do so?

Understand the whole case before keep giving unworkable action plan. Nanti jadi kemaluan antarabangsa tau
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 5 2024, 12:56 AM)
Haha.... SG hv been challenging MY to do so
But y Mahathir never do so?

Understand the whole case before keep giving unworkable action plan. Nanti jadi kemaluan antarabangsa tau
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because they have the upper hand previously, we want fair value for our raw water, sure they want fair value for their treated water too.
loke strictness on VEP are pretty much telling that we will not giving face forever. last time when we did chicken supply ban, did singapore stop taking chicken supply completely from us now? i just see many are bising because their other alternative are frozen chickens.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Oct 5 2024, 01:05 AM)
because they have the upper hand previously, we want fair value for our raw water, sure they want fair value for their treated water too.
loke strictness on VEP are pretty much telling that we will not giving face forever. last time when we did chicken supply ban, did singapore stop taking chicken supply completely from us now? i just see many are bising because their other alternative are frozen chickens.
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U r kind of weird. Pushing to go for international court but talk about rhetoric. Court is about rule of law and in this case black & white agreement.

Did u see SG government complaint about MY VEP?
Did u see SG government raise diplomatic issue on chicken ban?

They are pragmatic enough to work on alternative rather crying about thing beyond control
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 5 2024, 01:19 AM)
U r kind of weird. Pushing to go for international court but talk about rhetoric. Court is about rule of law and in this case black & white agreement.

Did u see SG government complaint about MY VEP?
Did u see SG government raise diplomatic issue on chicken ban?

They are pragmatic enough to work on alternative rather crying about thing beyond control
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whatever it is we jaga our bontot first. sure SGD is attractive, but will it last forever?
talking about water agreement, how much quantity of treated water we need to commit every year? we can just committed to the mere minimum just to adhere to the contract.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Oct 5 2024, 01:24 AM)
whatever it is we jaga our bontot first. sure SGD is attractive, but will it last forever?
talking about water agreement, how much quantity of treated water we need to commit every year? we can just committed to the mere minimum just to adhere to the contract.
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U r now getting little smarter through the discussion......
U start to think what are being bound by agreement. I m sure SG government cannot complaint much as long follow agreement.
Btw the commitment supply amount is known fact
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_confl...a_and_Singapore

The more important thing is getting smarter people to draft agreement for upcoming renewal in 30 years..... Put in gradual in increment to offset inflation. Else shorter the contract tenure

Earlier price review under mahathir PM4 time. Kind of dumb to review without deep though on these need..... After that only cry father cry mother...... Due diligent in review mana?

My best guess he is busy with internal politic then......
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Oct 4 2024, 11:39 PM)
calm down you know i was joking. we are only negotiating for better rate, not threatening to tutup the pipe.
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what leverage johor have? if tutupe pipe, they themselves headache.. coz lazy (feed by SG) never build sufficient water processing plant..
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QUOTE(brkli @ Oct 5 2024, 01:39 AM)
what leverage johor have? if tutupe pipe, they themselves headache.. coz lazy (feed by SG) never build sufficient water processing plant..
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who knows in 20 years or so got much more effective technology to filter out sea water. also our country are pretty much willing to sell raw water as long as the price is fair. there are projection that we will supplying treated water to singapore in the future if their population keep increasing.

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Oct 5 2024, 01:37 AM)
U r now getting little smarter through the discussion......
U start to think what are being bound by agreement. I m sure SG government cannot complaint much as long follow agreement.
Btw the commitment supply amount is known fact
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_confl...a_and_Singapore

The more important thing is getting smarter people to draft agreement for upcoming renewal in 30 years..... Put in gradual in increment to offset inflation. Else shorter the contract tenure

Earlier price review under mahathir PM4 time. Kind of dumb to review without deep though on these need..... After that only cry father cry mother...... Due diligent in review mana?

My best guess he is busy with internal politic then......
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