Hey mike, how old are your pups already? Well if they are already 7 weeks, too much dairy product is actually bad for their stomachs.

they are 7 weeks now. the vet recommended these to me, and i personally guess that they are also too much for the pups. i soak the pro plan with the pup's milk powder. is it ok at the moment ??

Also, there are plenty of Vitamin D in most goat's milk supplement and it will enhance the absorption of calcium. And there's no dire need for any form of calcium supplement. These add up will cause skeletal abnormalities such as Hip Dysplasia.

the vet suggested the 2 forms of 'drink' for me to use a syringe to feed them once a day.  one is a B complex and another is the oracalmin (i guess it is oral calcium vitamin?).

The calcium content in ProPlan Lamb and Rice should be sufficient at 1.0%.

true, the seller of the foods is my friend who owns a large pet-food shop in town and he says it is usually enough for ProPlan as the basic dietary food and only little supplement shd be enough ....

Other than that, good job. You can never give too much of Vitamin B. They're good supplements. Good luck with your puppies.

i think there is no Vitamin B in the diet, or is there? lol, not sure le.

Apbts are infact a very strong breed... R u keeping 2 males? if u are never tolerate any dominence behavior towards you.. in approximately a month or two, when the testosterone is kickin in, they will definately try to challenge u. never tolerate. no growling, no showing teeth. correct it immediately. put them in their place.. never let them think they can do whaever they want. this will reinforce their dominence(which is a NO NO). if they're not doin somethin u want them to do, never let them get away with it. make them do it. soon they'll learn, that when u tell them somethin, u'll make em do it even if they dun want to.

so true so true!!! They are dominant enough to dictate the activities.  i had to shout but i somehow pity them and soften my voice, sigh. they WIN.

if both r infact males, be prepared for dominence fight and puncture holes if u dun play ur part properly. small things like food, toy, bone, or even ur attention can trigger the fight. be able sense the tension when a fight about to go off and stop it even before it starts.. a strong 'NO' can distract their mind of the fighting mode.

true true!!! they just spark off a fight when playing with toys or in my garden. and in minutes, as you have said, it seems nothing has happened!!!  strange wei??? but yes, whenever i sense a fight, i will stop them. luckily one of them, the brownish one, is afraid of my little rod (newspapers wrapped as a rod).....

but if the fight has started, i can assure u it's not easy to pull 2 adult pits apart. it's like an adrenaline frenzy even hitting with stick or kickin them won't stop the fight. it takes two brave adult person to hold the dogs by collar chain and pull the apart to get them off the 'mode'. afterall, they were bred to fight till death. and they will if u dun stop them..

True true!!! i have seen some U Tube videos and the owners could not stop nor split the fight.  fight till death? i do believe it but never thought of such a terrible thing would happen.  OK OK OK, i got your message.  phew .... luckily you appear and warn me about the fights ... phewwww

so, be able to recognise the stronger character and establish a proper pecking order. very important for a group of dogs livin in a pack, especially pits. u must never fail to do so coz u are the alpha male here.. and everrybody in ur family must be higher in the hierarchy than the dogs. this lets the dogs know who the boss is.

OKOK, i will become the boss. but heart got to be strong and not to give in. i must try pal.....

even when a proper pecking order is established, sometimes these fight among pits are inevitable. it's funny sometimes, how they fight like worse enemies and after fight is separated, they'll behave like nothin happened between them. roam together and run around guarding together. well..

they really start to fight now, but only for a very little while, say, for 20 seconds.  but i do stop them from fighting.


just shoot if u need any more advice..

Hey mike, it's really up to you. I prefer a crate that he can't move around a lot. Just perfect for him to stand, sit, sleep and turn around. I got one around 2 1/2' (feet) I think. Since she's still a puppy I block off the extra space with boxes.

Too big a crate defeats the purpose of crate training. Cause if you plan on crating them for too long, they might soil the extra spaces. So, it reverses the process of housebreaking. Next, you would want a solid stainless steel crate if you have the money. If possible, custom a kennel for yourself. It's much stronger. I think my friend custom made one about RM450 about 3'.

Apbts are infact a very strong breed... R u keeping 2 males? if u are never tolerate any dominence behavior towards you.. in approximately a month or two, when the testosterone is kickin in, they will definately try to challenge u. never tolerate. no growling, no showing teeth. correct it immediately. put them in their place.. never let them think they can do whaever they want. this will reinforce their dominence(which is a NO NO). if they're not doin somethin u want them to do, never let them get away with it. make them do it. soon they'll learn, that when u tell them somethin, u'll make em do it even if they dun want to.

if both r infact males, be prepared for dominence fight and puncture holes if u dun play ur part properly. small things like food, toy, bone, or even ur attention can trigger the fight. be able sense the tension when a fight about to go off and stop it even before it starts.. a strong 'NO' can distract their mind of the fighting mode.
but if the fight has started, i can assure u it's not easy to pull 2 adult pits apart. it's like an adrenaline frenzy even hitting with stick or kickin them won't stop the fight. it takes two brave adult person to hold the dogs by collar chain and pull the apart to get them off the 'mode'. afterall, they were bred to fight till death. and they will if u dun stop them..

so, be able to recognise the stronger character and establish a proper pecking order. very important for a group of dogs livin in a pack, especially pits. u must never fail to do so coz u are the alpha male here.. and everrybody in ur family must be higher in the hierarchy than the dogs. this lets the dogs know who the boss is.

even when a proper pecking order is established, sometimes these fight among pits are inevitable. it's funny sometimes, how they fight like worse enemies and after fight is separated, they'll behave like nothin happened between them. roam together and run around guarding together. well..

just shoot if u need any more advice..

Genetics is genetics... there is absolutely nothing you can do to change genetics no matter how much socialization you've done. This is the breed's trait, understand it and respect them for the way they are. An APBT is very dog aggressive and you should've understood the risks and responsibility when you decided to get both. I'm not going to state the obvious anymore. As much as I would love to adopt him, I can't afford to have another one. Perhaps moe would be able to. Good luck.

Mike, I think I saw your adoption post in mudah

Etta, now 3 months plus.