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TSketaros
post Sep 10 2024, 11:11 AM, updated 2y ago

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I'm not sure where to post this so here goes. Just need some insight on this matter if anyone ever has any experience. Bear with me

So I got in an accident 2 month ago and the insurance just release the claim status as total lost.

My insurance when i renew is agreed value at 11k, would i get this much or are there calculations that only they know?

The workshop said if I opt for total lost, I need to pay them 1.5k for processing fee. Is this the right practice?

Workshop also said if I want to repair, need to write letter to the insurance and I probably need to topup the amount. They said repair could take 7-8k.

My question here, if I opt for repair, wont insurance cover 100% of repair cost? since 8k is still within 11k value

And If the topup amount is too high, can I opt back to total lost.

In total lost case, what happen to the car when I received the money? Is it still mine?

And how can I keep the plate no if i want to total lost the car?

Sorry for asking too much. Any insight is appreciated
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post Sep 10 2024, 11:18 AM

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It won't be 7-8 k. Will have other hidden costs. The insurance knew about it and that's why they total loss it.

Just pay 1.5k fee mostly for disposing the car and cancel the registration with JPJ. Made sure everything is stated black and white. Don't trust verbal agreements.
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post Sep 10 2024, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 10 2024, 11:18 AM)
IMade sure everything is stated black and white. Don't trust verbal agreements.
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i would emphasize this
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post Sep 10 2024, 11:41 AM

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what car 11k value?

Why claim own insurance? Your own salah?
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post Sep 10 2024, 11:48 AM

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What insurance company?

Just deal with insurance company sahaja; no need to deal with workshop.
Since insurance company already decalre total loss, just submit required documents and spare key then wait for payment.
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post Sep 10 2024, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 10 2024, 11:18 AM)
It won't be 7-8 k. Will have other hidden costs. The insurance knew about it and that's why they total loss it.

Just pay 1.5k fee mostly for disposing the car and cancel the registration with JPJ. Made sure everything is stated black and white. Don't trust verbal agreements.
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I see hidden repair cost but if total lost would I receive full 11K. So i pay them 1.5k to dispose the car and they can still sell all the parts for money right?


QUOTE(knwong @ Sep 10 2024, 11:41 AM)
what car 11k value?

Why claim own insurance? Your own salah?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 10 2024, 11:48 AM)
What insurance company?

Just deal with insurance company sahaja; no need to deal with workshop.
Since insurance company already decalre total loss, just submit required documents and spare key then wait for payment.
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post Sep 10 2024, 08:22 PM

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Processing fee is bear by you.

Ask them how they come up with the amount

Usually if the repair coat is above 65% of insured sum, insurance company will offer for total lost

You can still call them to negotiate to get it repair thou

Once you opt for total lost, you no longer own the car. Car ownership will be transfer to the insurance company

You can still ask the plate number back but make sure you notify them before signing acceptance letter
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post Sep 10 2024, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(loui @ Sep 10 2024, 08:22 PM)

You can still ask the plate number back but make sure you notify them before signing acceptance letter
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a car plate number have to be attached to the vehicle, if vehicle is total loss then number is gone too, no longer in registration

cant do interchange if insurance company taken possesion of the car in lieu of compensation

if car plate number is worth more than car value then dont claim total loss



this is what happen to a friend car, vvip plate number gone cause claim total loss
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post Sep 11 2024, 12:40 PM

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You can scrap the car yourself with JPJ & later sell to scrap metal dealer & save that $1.5k.
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post Sep 11 2024, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Sep 10 2024, 09:04 PM)
a car plate number have to be attached to the vehicle, if vehicle is total loss then number is gone too, no longer in registration

cant do interchange if insurance company taken possesion of the car in lieu of compensation

if car plate number is worth more than car value then dont claim total loss
this is what happen to a friend car, vvip plate number gone cause claim total loss
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Can be done

Owner need to get new plate number, exchange it to the total loss car before surrender the possession to insurance company
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post Sep 11 2024, 02:06 PM

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There is a processing fees, do check with your insurance instead of listening to workshop or runners. Cant recall how much....


In total lost case, what happen to the car when I received the money? Is it still mine?
- Car will be deregister and belongs to insurance company, and they will auction it....

And how can I keep the plate no if i want to total lost the car?
- you can ask to buy back the car and request the car not to be deregistered aka repairable write off. you can either fix it to sell it yourself later and transfer the plate to another car.

minor damage + air bags usually make the repair cost balloon out causing the car to be write off, these can be easily repair.

Major structure damage, even you can repair it is not worth it, the car will not drive/handle properly and you will get water leak and rust after a while, if you sell it new owner will curse you nine generation
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post Sep 11 2024, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(ketaros @ Sep 10 2024, 11:11 AM)
I'm not sure where to post this so here goes. Just need some insight on this matter if anyone ever has any experience. Bear with me

So I got in an accident 2 month ago and the insurance just release the claim status as total lost.

My insurance when i renew is agreed value at 11k, would i get this much or are there calculations that only they know?
Value you get should be in your policy agreement. You can refer to your policy to confirm this. They will also give you an official offer letter saying that your vehicle is "beyond economical repair" and how much they will be offering you.

The workshop said if I opt for total lost, I need to pay them 1.5k for processing fee. Is this the right practice?
Usually not a practice of franchise repairer. Sounds like an independent repairer which while not be right, is not illegal either I think. What you can do here is pass the expense to whoever is going to tow the wreck away from the workshop. Once you accept the total loss offer, insurer will open the wreck for tender to their list of repairers. Whoever wins the award will tow the wreck away from the workshop your car is in now. They will then have to pay the workshop the wreck fee as well.

Workshop also said if I want to repair, need to write letter to the insurance and I probably need to topup the amount. They said repair could take 7-8k.

My question here, if I opt for repair, wont insurance cover 100% of repair cost? since 8k is still within 11k value
Insurance has already declared total loss based on an "economical sense" basis based on parts price provided by the workshop estimate. If they say they can repair the car, they may be using inferior, used or OEM parts which are cheaper. In this sense, it will be like a contract repair where insurer pays a certain amount while you pay the rest. Bear in mind that parts used may not be original or the best. It will still be up to the insurer though.

And If the topup amount is too high, can I opt back to total lost.
Nope. You cannot flip flop between approvals.

In total lost case, what happen to the car when I received the money? Is it still mine?
You will be required to sign a discharge voucher once total loss approval is out. Once signed, the wreck belongs to the insurer and they will tender the wreck to any other repairer to salvage.

And how can I keep the plate no if i want to total lost the car?
I believe you can do a transfer if you already have another new car to transfer the number to. This area is vague to me, perhaps can check with JPJ  hmm.gif

Sorry for asking too much. Any insight is appreciated
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post Sep 11 2024, 06:38 PM

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1. when workshop say top-up, it means top-up from your current insurance amount such as 11k+7k=18k kan? else your insurance sitting duck there?

2. the 1.5k is services fee you pay to the workshop to help you submit paperworks, follow-up, tow to insurance company, etc. My recommendation if you want to save up the 1.5k, go back to Proton and let them do.. over there you can discuss cheaper fee since you bought the car from them..

3. after total-lost, consider you 'selling' the car back to the insurance company.. all transfer needs to happen.. so if you want to retain the number plate, follow normal procedure to transfer the number plate before "selling" the car
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post Sep 11 2024, 08:38 PM

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insulan gip total loss for good reasons, if uu already wanting to get a new car might as well total it.. as for processing fee negotiable if uu did not agreed with them earlier
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post Sep 11 2024, 08:39 PM

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2 type of total lost, beyond repair and beyond economic repair.
The beyond economic repair is the car can be repair but the cost is more than the insurance value. If want to take back plate number you need to provide them with a new number.
The beyond repair is the insurance deem it is just scrap metal, you can get the report then bring it to jpj and you can take back the number.

Btw I didn't pay anything to them. The 15k sum insured for the car, the payout was like 13.9k. They took 1.1k from that insurance itself.
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post Sep 12 2024, 08:56 AM

 
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Sep 11 2024, 08:39 PM)
2 type of total lost, beyond repair and beyond economic repair.
The beyond economic repair is the car can be repair but the cost is more than the insurance value. If want to take back plate number you need to provide them with a new number.
The beyond repair is the insurance deem it is just scrap metal, you can get the report then bring it to jpj and you can take back the number.

Btw I didn't pay anything to them. The 15k sum insured for the car, the payout was like 13.9k. They took 1.1k from that insurance itself.
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Was the 15k sum insured agreed value or market value?
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post Sep 12 2024, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Sep 12 2024, 08:56 AM)
Was the 15k sum insured agreed value or market value?
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It was market value. That value is more than whatever I could get from selling it, so consider okay la.
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post Sep 12 2024, 09:10 AM

 
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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Sep 12 2024, 09:07 AM)
It was market value. That value is more than whatever I could get from selling it, so consider okay la.
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Then the 13.9k was the market value, not "1.1k taken by insurance or workshop".
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post Sep 13 2024, 06:37 AM

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Old car fix for what... somemore they wont give you new parts

I tell you what... take the 11k, then after a month or two, offer the insurer you want to buy back the car cheaply like 1-2k if you know someone who can fix it cheaply. Thats what they are doing with most total lost car.
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post Sep 13 2024, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 13 2024, 06:37 AM)
Old car fix for what... somemore they wont give you new parts

I tell you what... take the 11k, then after a month or two, offer the insurer you want to buy back the car cheaply like 1-2k if you know someone who can fix it cheaply. Thats what they are doing with most total lost car.
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