First things first–what the heck is the Raize? It might look like a junior RAV4 but there aren't any connections between the two models. The Raize (a name obtained by combining "rise" and "raise") is Toyota's version of the Daihatsu Rocky, a subcompact crossover that has been on sale since late 2019. Latin NCAP recently got its hands on one for a crash test, but it didn't end well.

Also sold as a Subaru Rex and Perodua Ativa, the Toyota Raize disappointed in the crash test by earning a single star. It may be 2024 but the Indonesian-market model comes as standard with just two front airbags. In Mexico, for example, the model gets six by including two side airbags and another two curtain airbags. The Raize didn't fare well in Latin NCAP's evaluation, but not just because of its lack of those extra airbags we normally take for granted.

According to the experts from the New Car Assessment Programme for Latin America and the Caribbean, the Raize exhibited an "unstable structure" in the front impact. In addition, it also offered only "marginal protection to the driver's chest." The front collision test was performed at 40 mph. In the side crash test at 31 mph, Toyota's small crossover showed a "relevant intrusion in the passenger compartment," therefore increasing the risks of injuries.

It got zero points in the side pole impact test because it lacked standard side head protection. Latin NCAP points out that the Raize is offered with advanced driver-assistance systems but not in the Latin NCAP region, not even as an option. In Indonesia, the Raize GR Sport does get the Toyota Safety Sense suite of driver assistance systems: lane departure warning, lane departure prevention, pre-collision warning, pre-collision braking, adaptive cruise control, and front departure alert.
The range-topping version also has six airbags, rear cross-traffic alert, hill start assist, and something called Pedal Misoperation Control. It prevents the driver from accidentally pressing the accelerator pedal instead of the brake while parking. However, Latin NCAP tested a lesser configuration, hence why it was rated poorly.

The crossover scored only 41% for Adult Occupant Protection, 72% for Child Occupant Protection, 59% in the Pedestrian Protection and Vulnerable Road Users category, and 58% for Safety Assist. Stephan Brodziak, Latin NCAP Chairman, said:

"It is disappointing that Toyota once again engages in selling low-safety cars for certain countries in the region, such as the Raize. We know that the brand can achieve better performances in vehicle safety, so we strongly call for the company to reconsider its safety equipment strategy and subject its models to safety evaluations so that consumers know their real performance."

Alejandro Furas, Secretary General of Latin NCAP, declared:

"Latin NCAP urges Toyota to change its approach, improve basic safety equipment in cars, and volunteer the cars in Latin NCAP to show consumers their performances. In a scenario of global concern about safety certifications in some Toyota cars, it is proven once again the need for a standardized vehicle safety labelling that includes the Latin NCAP star rating."

The Raize is only one of several new cars that have disappointed in crash tests in recent times. Late last year, the Australasian New Car Assessment Program (ANCAP) gave the MG5 and Mahindra Scorpio a zero-star rating. In mid-2023, the Citroën C3 also "earned" zero stars from Latin NCAP. At the end of 2022, China's JAC E10x got zero stars from Latin NCAP.

Source: Latin NCAP

https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/other/toyota...4b93c2f4e&ei=22

Msian dont care safety rating…

Here the Atipah laku keras bang 😸😸

just dont get into eksiden mah oklor

whats the big deal

Scary news for me as an owner of Ativa first batch…

don't talk too much bad thing about T and P2
nanti tak ada RV

This post has been edited by wwc1987: Sep 5 2024, 10:25 AM

Halo effect. JDMs brand already established. Any wrong done will diampunkan. /k will just keep screaming Chyna CCP ev scam wonly

Safety for fucks

Janji resale value sky up high P2

now where are those perodua hardcore supporters that say perodua is actually safe....5 star ANCAP proves that it's safe

and it's tougher than proton's 4 star

my hand, my eyes and ears are not lying to me

Buy RM50,000 after 10 years nak jual RM42,000.

This is P2 owner mindset.

all the crash is meaningless.

they should test the car to crash with Hilux and lorry to determine the star.

mean all car tested to crash with lorry.

moving lorry at 110km/h from back, and direct head to head collision.


then only valid the crash test.


if just bang wall, how many will bang wall compare to bang moving lorry?



This post has been edited by angelgemini: Sep 5 2024, 10:39 AM

The fact is the resale value is still damn good. A 6 year old Myvi market value is still around 35K

now u know why asean ncap is totally bullshit and nonsense

even shitty junk axia can get 4 stars

Toyota, this is what happened when you trust blindly your subsidary company, diehatsu.

Now it drags toyota together with them with their subpar vehicle

2021 ativa H used car 60k+-
nice RV

This post has been edited by wwc1987: Sep 5 2024, 10:43 AM

Mati takpe janji RV tinggi

Slowtiva possibly meant for poor markets. That's why the safety features lesser to reduce costs.

safety wat safety?? we still have plenty of 1st gen myvi roaming around without airbags

The intention of Malaysia National car brand are to boost local manufacture and hope one day we can bring our cars to a higher standard like Kia or Hyundai.

Thanks to AP and tax duty we are all stuck with low cost car that can't provide enough competitive spec, it all dominated by one particular brand and whatever they model/spec they launched and we all need to suck it up.

In this 2024 they are no longer make new model instead all of them are just rebadging models. Im not sure what benefit this can bring to the local automotive any progressive we can proceed with our so call local automotive brands.

CCP cars are shining and when they flooded the local market with cheap price, nobody would want to choose extortion P1/P2 cars.

Macam bullshit je. The speed is so slow. Slower than the speed they use to bang wall in crash tests.

The cement truck also looks empty, that's why can bounce. Try a fully loaded cement truck la.

Now I think about it, the other trucks also probably empty.

This post has been edited by JohnL77: Sep 5 2024, 11:15 AM

In before China one will patah

aiyooo why so lousy one

last time got some side bar scandal rite... now this

but marehsian will still keep buying toyota and p2... no worries... safety is last thing on marehsian mind

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Sep 5 2024, 11:24 AM

ativa asean ncap 5 stars latin ncap 1 star

so extreme difference?

Toyota, Honda, Daihatsu, Perodua all make unsafe 3rd world cars to be sold in water fish countries like Malaysia. But its ok because this is what Malaysian consumers want. They don't want a safer car, they only want good RV, so they are willing to risk the lives of their family. Wife, kids, father, mother die in a simple car crash which better cars can survive never mind, most important is RV.

there's a reason ASEAN models are not sold elsewhere other than within asean...it's crap car dumping ground

even brunei is driving JDM/USDM spec car

said it before if possible, i want anthony loke to act up and demand car makers to sell quality cars here
set a standard rule, minumum requirement like what EU is doing

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Sep 5 2024, 11:39 AM

that why need to fix it at 110km'h for both lorry and car.

then also should be full loaded lorry.

what you pay what you get.

that the rules.

why become dumping ground? cause we demand cheap car.
then to meet that price range = cut cost.


also never forget local tax pay apart to the car price.

your car tax is partly used to subsidies the petrol and road maintaining.

imagine u pay peanut to the roadtax every year.

our cars are NOT cheap
same price overseas, they're getting better spec car for even cheaper price because they have requirements and regulation on what can be sold there

here want to erect lemon law also need to wait until next year, they had it for years already

is about the car tax,

it apply to proton and perodua also.


is around 30% tax for them.

so manufacturer need to cut the 30% quality to meet the price.

if put the regulation also.

100k car will become 130k, u ok to buy?

why not?
it's about your safety

what you just said and refuse to buy is the same mentality as buying and driving a BMW but put on linglong tyres

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Sep 5 2024, 12:00 PM

The sampah CVT already loosing 50% RV.

hehehe

toyota lepas tangan

tanya sime darby

Not so sure about that. So far, there has not been any major accidents due to these failures from Ativa, resulting from safe driving la.. if drive like F1, then they ask for it la.

I think lemon law and this low NCAP is quite irrelevant. Lemon laws are for defective units. Any defective cars due to assembly quality is under lemon law.
NCAP is more safety performance of the car. I am not a car expert but this is my take.

i trust Latin NCAP.

Adoi I even thought its possible that it could the a paper truck for the after world.

both don't have connection but both have to co-exist

do u noticed there are more and more cases of defective cars lately in MY?
just today already got one

It's actually not something new but because nowadays, people got social media to viral news so that they can pressure the car manufacturers/dealers.

janji resale value ade

Toyota Raize JDM is 5 star JNCAP kek

https://www.stratagemmarketinsights.com/new...p-crash-test-69

I'm not defending toyota, but we want to know why is there big discrepancy with Latin NCAP?

This post has been edited by terradrive: Sep 5 2024, 12:29 PM

Malaysia how many stars?

i guess look at the way they do crash test

for me, i only recognize 2 kind of crash test...NCAP and NHTSA

raize and ativa..aren't both of them the same car?
JNCAP can get 5 star is because u can't even drive fast in JP...here also actually is but nobody is following the rules only

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Sep 5 2024, 12:54 PM

then can someone highlight the JNCAP vs Latin NCAP the test procedures like the speed etc on how they conduct the test as well as how they evaluate the result?

Can't drive fast in JP is entirely unrelated stuff to official crash testing

Raize get 1 star but ativa get 5 star..
Power of rebagde?





This post has been edited by Brotherjoe: Sep 5 2024, 01:30 PM

then u can buy BMW and Merc, then issue solve,.

since price is not a issue already.
dun buy cheap ass toyota and honda junk.

You think BMW and Merc got no issues?

Have not been BZ on net today as these past days been to KLCC for trade shows. Will check later

Difference standards … also ativa has full sets of active and passive, I suppose. Basic cards re same but accessories for safety is different

wah, i remember that amoi died hit lorry back

The one she hit the parked lorry, right?

if u ask me, active ones are completely useless....it's not there to save your live but more like trying to avoid it and it doesn't 100% work all the time
and there is no absolute way to test that it work as well.....like those funny video of people testing the active system end up kena langgar

so pay attention is actually more useful than passive, i'm more supportive on the passive side

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Sep 5 2024, 03:17 PM

I think both plays their role at different stages of an accident. Active prevents accidents, passive prevent injuries. Both save lives at different phase of an accident.

sorry, terbalik
i'm supportive of passive > active

active ones are all electronics and no guarantee would work

Looks both use the same protocols, ie. 64kmh and 50kmh.
Reports here:
https://www.latinncap.com/en/result/182/toy...ize-+-2-airbags
https://www.aseancap.org/result/5337

That said, the ASEAN version had full airbags. Also we do not know if the latin version of the car uses different materials or builds standards. Different markets have different quality levels.

Yes, electronic is dependent on the systems set up. Best is avoidance, drive carefully and defensive driving.

now talking about safety, not car issue.

so BMW vs toyota.
which better safety?

I hope to see ncap adopt iihs small overlap test.