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post Sep 3 2024, 12:38 PM, updated 2y ago

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VATICAN CITY: Pope Francis, 87, was set to land in Muslim-majority Indonesia today for a visit dominated by inter-faith ties, the start of an ambitious four-nation tour that will be the longest of his papacy.

The pontiff left Rome on Monday afternoon and was due to land in Jakarta at 11.30am local time, the first stop in a 12-day voyage that will also take in Papua New Guinea, East Timor and Singapore.

Covering some 32,000km, the tour — the longest and farthest of his 11 years leading the worldwide Catholic Church — will test Francis’s increasingly fragile health.

But in recent weeks the pontiff has appeared in good spirits, and he is often energised by being among his flock.

Catholics currently represent fewer than 3% of the population of Indonesia — some eight million people, compared to the 87% or 242 million, who are Muslim.

But they are one of six officially recognised religions or denominations in the secular nation, including Protestantism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Confucianism.

On Thursday, Francis will meet representatives of all six at Istiqlal Mosque, the largest in Southeast Asia and a symbol of religious co-existence.

It is linked via a tunnel of friendship to the cathedral across the road, where Christians in recent days have been taking selfies with a life-sized cut-out of the pope.

At the mosque, Pope Francis will sign a joint declaration with the grand imam, Nasaruddin Umar.

The statement will focus on dehumanisation, notably the spread of violence and conflict, particularly to women and children, as well as environmental degradation, according to the Indonesian bishops’ conference.

Francis has repeatedly urged the world to do more to combat climate change and mitigate its effects — including rising sea levels, which threaten the heavily polluted megalopolis of Jakarta.
Security is tight for the three-day visit, with the military, police and members of the president’s own detail among more than 4,000 law enforcement officers deployed.

A new billboard advert declaring ‘Welcome Pope Francis’ has been put up in central Jakarta, while the government has ordered a special stamp in his honour.

The country’s religious affairs ministry has hailed the visit as a symbol of Indonesia’s religious diversity.

It is very important in conveying a message and showing the world that religious harmony in Indonesia is guaranteed and has been implemented, ministry spokesman Sunanto, who goes by one name, said Monday, according to state news agency Antara.
It is the third papal visit to Indonesia, an archipelago of 17,500 islands, after Paul VI in 1970 and John Paul II in 1989.

Discrimination and dialogue

The independent Jakarta Post newspaper hailed the visit in an editorial Monday as highly significant for the advancement of inter-religious relations both in Indonesia and abroad.
Despite Indonesia’s official recognition of different faiths, there are concerns about growing discrimination, including against Christians, with local Catholics hoping the pope will speak out.
The Jakarta-based Journalists’ Union for Diversity (SEJUK) told AFP it had recorded eight violations of religious freedom in August alone, including the banning of church construction, attacks on temples and assaults.

But Michel Chambon, a theologian and anthropologist at the National University of Singapore, said the pope would be pressing a wider message he has already delivered in other Muslim-majority countries, from Iraq to Bahrain, Turkey and Morocco.
The visit is not really aimed at Catholics in Indonesia but is intended to highlight the global importance of Islamic-Christian dialogue, he told AFP.

There are divisions even within the Catholic Church. Some leaders think that good interreligious dialogue is all well and good, but that it will not go further than peaceful coexistence, he added.

Fragile health

Francis will meet outgoing President Joko Widodo during his visit and hold meetings with young people, diplomats and local clergy.
He will also preside over a mass in an 80,000-seat stadium, one of several such events during the tour, the 45th overseas trip of his papacy.

Originally planned for 2020 but postponed due to the Covid pandemic, the visit takes place just three months before his 88th birthday.

The Argentine now routinely uses a wheelchair to move around, underwent hernia surgery last year and has been plagued by respiratory issues.

He has not travelled abroad since visiting Marseille in France in September 2023, having cancelled a planned address at United Nations climate talks in Dubai two months later.

He will be travelling to Indonesia with his personal doctor and two nurses, but Vatican spokesman Matteo Bruni said that was normal, adding no extra precautions were in place.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...XiMSJuQqc0ZZ3mQ
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post Sep 3 2024, 12:40 PM

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just born in Malaysia?

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post Sep 3 2024, 01:38 PM

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Why he skipped msia?
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post Sep 3 2024, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(china_dude 02 @ Sep 3 2024, 01:38 PM)
Why he skipped msia?
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I find Indonesia is more tolerant to Christianity.
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post Sep 3 2024, 01:42 PM

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mana boleh masuk malaysia, later the pope kena boycott 99
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post Sep 3 2024, 01:42 PM

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Why no Philipines? The majority there are catholic.

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post Sep 3 2024, 01:42 PM

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The pontiff left Rome on Monday afternoon and was due to land in Jakarta at 11.30am local time, the first stop in a 12-day voyage that will also take in Papua New Guinea, East Timor and Singapore.

Well clearly msia is extremist and terrorist supporting country until pope also avoid
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post Sep 3 2024, 01:45 PM

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better dont come.. coz we have PUAS.. they are more conservative than indogs.. PUAS will never like this
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post Sep 3 2024, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 3 2024, 01:42 PM)
Why no Philipines? The majority there are catholic.
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On Thursday, Francis will meet representatives of all six at Istiqlal Mosque, the largest in Southeast Asia and a symbol of religious co-existence.

It is linked via a tunnel of friendship to the cathedral across the road, where Christians in recent days have been taking selfies with a life-sized cut-out of the pope.

At the mosque, Pope Francis will sign a joint declaration with the grand imam, Nasaruddin Umar.


He come for inter-faith talks and friendship
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post Sep 3 2024, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(knwong @ Sep 3 2024, 01:40 PM)
I find Indonesia is more tolerant to Christianity.
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Wow then Philippines must be a hotbed of bigotry

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post Sep 3 2024, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Sep 3 2024, 01:42 PM)
Why no Philipines? The majority there are catholic.
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Misconception, they aren't Catholic, theirs is a local denomination, almost cult like
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post Sep 3 2024, 01:51 PM

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Those religion bigots in Malaysia already go banana when they saw this on house roof, do you think he would visit?

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post Sep 3 2024, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Sep 3 2024, 01:42 PM)
The pontiff left Rome on Monday afternoon and was due to land in Jakarta at 11.30am local time, the first stop in a 12-day voyage that will also take in Papua New Guinea, East Timor and Singapore.

Well clearly msia is extremist and terrorist supporting country until pope also avoid
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so bila nak keluar? you stay here you also guilty by association.
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post Sep 3 2024, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Sep 3 2024, 12:38 PM)
VATICAN CITY: Pope Francis, 87, was set to land in Muslim-majority Indonesia today for a visit dominated by inter-faith ties, the start of an ambitious four-nation tour that will be the longest of his papacy.
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Security is tight for the three-day visit, with the military, police and members of the president’s own detail among more than 4,000 law enforcement officers deployed.
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He will be travelling to Indonesia with his personal doctor and two nurses, but Vatican spokesman Matteo Bruni said that was normal, adding no extra precautions were in place.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...XiMSJuQqc0ZZ3mQ
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post Sep 3 2024, 02:32 PM

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PN: why pope never come to msia? Madani do what? Plotek
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post Sep 3 2024, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Sep 3 2024, 02:30 PM)
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QUOTE(china_dude 02 @ Sep 3 2024, 01:38 PM)
Why he skipped msia?
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whether he come or not, does not make a difference to my daily struggle.
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post Sep 3 2024, 02:54 PM

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no thailand?

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post Sep 3 2024, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(gaman @ Sep 3 2024, 01:51 PM)
Those religion bigots in Malaysia already go banana when they saw this on house roof, do you think he would visit?

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Aeroplane from bottom also look similar like this....
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post Sep 3 2024, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Sep 3 2024, 01:45 PM)
better dont come.. coz we have PUAS.. they are more conservative than indogs.. PUAS will never like this
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Shd arrange a meeting with Bawang.

 

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