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 JAKIM placing officers in every Govt dept, Madani get PAS's backing

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post Sep 3 2024, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:14 AM)
wow, talk like a true expert, i bet u also play well in office politics, i should elect u to be representative to change every law in malaysia then.
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what is the point PH and Anwar become govt when keep follow old policy?

reformasi mana?
lip service aje ????????????

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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:28 AM)
who does not play office politics?  The only way not to play office politics is to be an island.  The crux is does one play clean politics or dirty politics? 
If you are management in any company, and you keep taichi bad stuff to ur predecessor WITHOUT any actions to improve or change for the better, you will face the axe v v v v fast.  The point of getting u in as a gov is to reform which is what the PH gov war cry, no?  So reform the systems if it is bad.  Do not keep the blame game without any actions.  Not going to get you anywhere at all with the blame game.
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there are restrictions in company where some rules cant be changed even u are at the top, what's more in actual governance of a country full of racial sensitivity.

u keep talking like that i just feel that u have never been at management level in a mnc
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:30 AM)
what is the point PH and Anwar become govt when keep follow old policy?

reformasi mana?
lip service aje ????????????

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yo, u post a malay post condemn the government la, isn't that something u good at? don't dare to face repercussions isit?
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:32 AM)
yo, u post a malay post condemn the government la, isn't that something u good at? don't dare to face repercussions isit?
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so now we just continue?

i see
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post Sep 3 2024, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:33 AM)
so now we just continue?

i see
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you post first la, no balls to challenge religion and race?
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:39 AM)
you post first la, no balls to challenge religion and race?
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already post what
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post Sep 3 2024, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:30 AM)
there are restrictions in company where some rules cant be changed even u are at the top, what's more in actual governance of a country full of racial sensitivity.

u keep talking like that  i just feel that u have never been at management level in a mnc
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Yes, there are restrictions but if you are the central excom, u can change just as the Malaysian gov is the executive authority for all laws in Malaysia except for religion. So they have and can make changes. They have 2/3 majority support now, no? What’s stopping them from doing so? Scared of failure to secure 2/3 approvals to make changes to laws? Does all these reforms need parliamentary approval?
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:41 AM)
already post what
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make post by representing mca on this position la, dont hide behind keyboard
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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:41 AM)
Yes, there are restrictions but if you are the central excom, u can change just as the Malaysian gov is the executive authority for all laws in Malaysia except for religion.  So they have and can make changes.  They have 2/3 majority support now, no?  What’s stopping them from doing so?  Scared of failure to secure 2/3 approvals to make changes to laws?  Does all these reforms need parliamentary approval?
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u totally ignore the racial sensitivity part, aren't u?
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post Sep 3 2024, 10:46 AM

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sepertinya kerajaan bodoh kita kalah ke JAKIM
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post Sep 3 2024, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:44 AM)
u totally ignore the racial sensitivity part, aren't u?
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What racial sensitivity that PMX cannot handle? If he can handle Palestine stuff, what is so difficult? He claimed he has the support of Malay voters didn’t he? So it is ok for anyone to blame MCA for this act when MCA also has to consider racial sensitivity but it is not ok for PMX to reform due to racial sensitivity? Interesting… if MCA cannot do this last time, they do not have racial sensitivity to face then? So can blame and throw brick bats at them. Now PMX and DAP cannot do this because of racial sensitivity?

Look, I am not a fan of MCA nor am I a fan of PH. But I do not favour the hypocrisy surrounding these where whatever MCA or the past gov did is wrong and blame them. When asked to reform, cannot cos unity gov (which has been claimed to have 2/3 majority), racial sentiments, religious sentiments etc. all full of excuses to cover the failures to reform or to act!

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QUOTE(fongsk26 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:28 AM)
And this will make the systems better now, by cursing them?  Wow!
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welcome to malaysia
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Sep 3 2024, 10:44 AM)
make post by representing mca on this position la, dont hide behind keyboard
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actually why should mca make post?

when mca doesnt have the support

dap on the other hand has 99% non support but quiet
yet u keep bark on mca

funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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post Sep 3 2024, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 3 2024, 11:30 AM)
actually why should mca make post?

when mca doesnt have the support

dap on the other hand has 99% non support but quiet
yet u keep bark on mca

funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Because MCA is the bogeyman for DAP. Just as Spore was the bogey man for Atuk then. If no MCA, who is DAP going to blame for their failure or weaknesses?
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QUOTE(whphon @ Sep 3 2024, 10:46 AM)
sepertinya kerajaan bodoh kita kalah ke JAKIM
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I think this JAKIM policy already there since 20-30 years ago.
Basically 1 or 2 officers each dept, normally in Putrajaya or ibu negeri. Basically the one, ustad2 who recite doa during official event, guide whatever religion event.
No issue until now... Suddently NGO or political party play with 3R issue again as if PMX govt fault...

The only different is that Madani govt want to create permanent staff instead of contract or JAKIM loan staff.
Madani govt basically try to help also other post like doctor & teacher too, create more permanent staff..

In reality, it still same person who give service. Nothing new...

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Sep 3 2024, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 2 2024, 10:05 PM)
hard to said yo
especially if you now also put them in education department  brows.gif
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Lol, they think they can influence, one guy ?

Gahmen office don't work like that, you just ciput come in want to tell this tell that, very fast kena pulau.


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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Sep 3 2024, 11:48 AM)
I think this JAKIM policy already there since 20-30 years ago.
Basically 1 or 2 officers each dept, normally in Putrajaya or ibu negeri. Basically the one, ustad2 who recite doa during official event, guide whatever religion event.
No issue until now... Suddently NGO or political party play with 3R issue again as if PMX govt fault...

The only different is that Madani govt want to create permanent staff instead of contract or JAKIM loan staff.
Madani govt basically try to help also other post like doctor & teacher too, create more permanent staff..

In reality, it still same person who give service. Nothing new...
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But why create a permanent post when it is working well now? If they want to create permanent posts, I think there is a better department that needs more permanent posts like docs in hospitals. They add more value to people’s livelihood, no? Save life directly vs those who save life indirectly.
Time to assess if having this is person adds any value/benefit since corruption is not under control in gov dept…
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 3 2024, 12:34 PM)
Lol, they think they can influence, one guy ?

Gahmen office don't work like that, you just ciput come in want to tell this tell that, very fast kena pulau.
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who knows?

u do know how terrorist spread right? brows.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Sep 3 2024, 12:48 PM)
who knows?

u do know how terrorist spread right?  brows.gif
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Terrorism need people of similar mind. There's nothing similar in gahmen except ular early and MC, change this change that, who wants to do for free , you want you do la, mouth only say easy
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Sep 3 2024, 02:58 PM)
Terrorism need people of similar mind. There's nothing similar in gahmen except ular early and MC, change this change that, who wants to do for free , you want you do la, mouth only say easy
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hard to said
unless u know ALL govt staff mind brows.gif

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