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ameliorate
post Aug 29 2024, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(brian81st @ Aug 29 2024, 04:59 PM)
not really, at it stands now, with the model Y being outdated. The G6 definitely has its edge over model Y.

yes, tesla does has its supercharger network, but the network till today is very small. so it wont really make a huge difference for the tesla and other car marque. but this is a totally different story oversea like the US, china and europe, which the supercharger network is so vast.

on FSD, i think they are both similar. xpeng is among the top tier in self-driving tech in china. with more sensors , camera and radar, it could be more futureproof. tesla does has its own FSD, where it can depends on its huge data system to do calculations. so i would consider them both similar.

charging time, is where the xpeng shines. and tesla is based on 400v architecture, while xpeng is 800v architecture.

efficiency, this is where tesla has been dominating compare to the rest of the pack.

so with the price advantages, the xpeng g6 would be a viable choice if you are looking for ev of this size
well, if the model Y is updated to juniper, then it will definitely changes things.
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You're comparing specs just like iphone vs android. It's the same trap.

Also not this xpeng, it's a very tiny player. Much better to compare Tesla to BYD.

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post Aug 29 2024, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Aug 29 2024, 04:48 PM)
This one yekceli 1 year old tech edi. Launch july 2023 in Chyna.

Xpeng latest tech and cost cutting breakthru is the latest Mona M03. Some pundit claim they managed to reduce cost due to gigacasting.

Similar semi premium fit and finish(minus the lidar and torsion beam sad.gif )

Rm70-90k+

Wait if it come here in RHD. See how much the price gonna press down further biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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M03 with 120k price tag also can tapau legendary civic already
You think those current civic owner dont want to drive EV zoooom zoooommmmm? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Aug 29 2024, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Aug 29 2024, 05:11 PM)
You're comparing specs just like iphone vs android. It's the same trap.

Also not this xpeng, it's a very tiny player. Much better to compare Tesla to BYD.
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People are comparing TESLA & XPENG in china because of their same position, same design, same spec, same FSD.
They both are targeted PREMIUM, not luxury.

BYD are just lower tier product to Tesla for their brand positioning.

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post Aug 29 2024, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Aug 29 2024, 04:37 PM)
Yes. The ev market has parallel to the mobile phone market.

Tesla = iphone, the rest = Android.

You buy Tesla is stay in it's ecosystem. Which at this moment is far superior than the rest.
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right now buy anything also white rats only.
yes, tesla plans to buit their ecosystem, but right now it's far from complete, a lot of challenges in terms of laws & politics.

what tesla ecosystem really want to achieve is to built an integrated city.
roads are well maintained, suitable for anonymous driving.
parkings that has self charging after it's parked.
u can put your tesla to be autonomous uber to help u even money.
next time u might not own a vehicle, where u just subscribe to tesla rode services.

even if can managed, it will be years away.
it will start somewhere in US first, most probably new township/city.
if it was a success, it will trickle to 1st world countries first.
SEA countries, u slowly wait for the "ecosystem" la.
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post Aug 29 2024, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(brian81st @ Aug 29 2024, 04:59 PM)
not really, at it stands now, with the model Y being outdated. The G6 definitely has its edge over model Y.

yes, tesla does has its supercharger network, but the network till today is very small. so it wont really make a huge difference for the tesla and other car marque. but this is a totally different story oversea like the US, china and europe, which the supercharger network is so vast.

on FSD, i think they are both similar. xpeng is among the top tier in self-driving tech in china. with more sensors , camera and radar, it could be more futureproof. tesla does has its own FSD, where it can depends on its huge data system to do calculations. so i would consider them both similar.

charging time, is where the xpeng shines. and tesla is based on 400v architecture, while xpeng is 800v architecture.

efficiency, this is where tesla has been dominating compare to the rest of the pack.

so with the price advantages, the xpeng g6 would be a viable choice if you are looking for ev of this size
well, if the model Y is updated to juniper, then it will definitely changes things.
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The best selling point of Juniper are the latest battery tech & ventilation seat. The rest(ambient light) are just gimmick.

Forget the most important FSD, it's not going to work at Malaysia for a short while.
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 29 2024, 05:16 PM)
People are comparing TESLA & XPENG in china because of their same position, same design, same spec, same FSD.
They both are targeted PREMIUM, not luxury.

BYD are just lower tier product to Tesla for their brand positioning.
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BYD has many sub brands to cater different segment.
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post Aug 29 2024, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Aug 29 2024, 05:02 PM)
one day tesla and iphone will follow nokia footstep if sit at comfort zone. owh. the latest one is intel. lol. who gonna tot intel will going down. same goes as this tesla and iphone.
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i doubt tesla will sit at its comfort zone. tesla is very aggressive and vertically integrated. Thats why tesla is still selling very well in china. Even when facing china ev at their home turf, tesla is still a market leader. China ev can only effect other car brands, but not tesla.
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post Aug 29 2024, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(ameliorate @ Aug 29 2024, 05:23 PM)
BYD has many sub brands to cater different segment.
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yea...and the best selling cars are PHEV in BYD, not EV.
If only calculate pure EV model, i think BYD are no.5 or no.6
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post Aug 29 2024, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 29 2024, 03:45 PM)

Just went to have a look.

Can say if i have not bought atto3, will confirm + chop get this car instead. Its superior in every way at the same price
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Did you ask about their self driving tech? Available in Malaysia?
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post Aug 29 2024, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(kavman1984 @ Aug 29 2024, 09:35 PM)
Did you ask about their self driving tech? Available in Malaysia?
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Not available. Just regular ADAS system
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post Aug 29 2024, 09:49 PM

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The rear... kinda like iX and Macan/Cayenne had a baby? lol
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post Aug 29 2024, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(blmse92 @ Aug 27 2024, 11:16 AM)
Xpeng. Sounds like powerbank
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It sounds more like a China Porn site. laugh.gif
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post Aug 29 2024, 09:56 PM

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I also saw Maxus Mifa 9 on the road already.

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post Aug 30 2024, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(blmse92 @ Aug 27 2024, 11:16 AM)
Xpeng. Sounds like powerbank
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one of the best China brand logo
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post Aug 30 2024, 11:20 AM

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they have good cars but retard names
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 29 2024, 03:45 PM)
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Just went to have a look.

Can say if i have not bought atto3, will confirm + chop get this car instead. Its superior in every way at the same price
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yes.... for slightly more money. ATTO3 cannot compete in all aspect
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post Aug 31 2024, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Bill888 @ Aug 29 2024, 04:52 PM)
who say? the china ev more affordable and offer more values. Tesla only win in marketing. blush.gif
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Those that wants a Tesla will wait for Tesla Y Juniper... the savings in $$$ for a G6 is less important than owning a Tesla. Same principle like Iphones owners, wont switch to android 1 la. The launch of Xpeng G6 will start the struggle of China EVs within that price bracket. Those that can afford 200+k wont be bothered cuz different segment d

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post Sep 1 2024, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(drewn123 @ Aug 31 2024, 09:41 PM)
Those that wants a Tesla will wait for Tesla Y Juniper... the savings in $$$ for a G6 is less important than owning a Tesla. Same principle like Iphones owners, wont switch to android 1 la. The launch of Xpeng G6 will start the struggle of China EVs within that price bracket. Those that can afford 200+k wont be bothered cuz different segment d
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My foot, the Chinese models definitely offer more values for your money. Tesla mainly for western countries because of the way they market and hype the brand.
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post Sep 1 2024, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Bill888 @ Sep 1 2024, 09:54 AM)
My foot, the Chinese models definitely offer more values for your money. Tesla mainly for western countries because of the way they market and hype the brand.
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You buy already o not, don’t be like darkterror drive a Japanese car till now buy everyday wumao sembah xipeepee la.

After 6-8 years come back cry father mother no money change battery lol. You buy EV, expect to car to be dead within 10 years unlikely petrol car
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post Sep 1 2024, 10:19 AM

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XPENG = NOT Cheap.

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