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autodriver
post Sep 19 2024, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(Dalexand @ Sep 14 2024, 11:33 PM)
be interesting to know if they use an OEM factory. Think they must have own with R&D all.

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The OEM factory R&D is very simple. They just copy the bunga from reputable brand but what they did not capable to copy is the "material". The material play very important role such as high performance silica which can achieve low rolling resistent for fuel saving meanwhile improve wet condition performance.
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post Sep 21 2024, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 19 2024, 07:59 AM)
The OEM factory R&D is very simple. They just copy the bunga from reputable brand but what they did not capable to copy is the "material". The material play very important role such as high performance silica which can achieve low rolling resistent for fuel saving meanwhile improve wet condition performance.
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its the hard or soft compound that is important right ? Soon will have to get a set to test.

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amduser
post Oct 9 2024, 08:57 PM

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i have been using few set of china/thailand/indonesia cheap tyres, below is those i have tried, their price range is around RM 150 to RM 180 depends on where you buy them
- Windforce Catchfors - best grip in wet and dry among all i've tried, steering response also good and sidewall is stiff, noise level is good until <50% thread then will become noisier
- farroad frd26 - can feel a bit delay in steering response, NVH is poor and noisy
- forget-the-name-but-end-with-Force - very soft sidewall, poor steering response, but noise level is the most quiet among all, wet grip is poorer than farroad frd26, this is more for budget and quiet and comfortable driving
- Massimo Leone L1 - it has the same thread pattern and same performance as farroad frd26

i'm driving Mazda 3, with aftermarket adjustable coilover, i also downgraded all my rims from 18" to a replica thailand 17" rims using 215/45/17 tyres size

Windforce Catchfors has surprisingly good performance, over 170km/h still able to handle well, while the rest of the tyres hold up well up to 160-170 km/h on dry, going faster than that it will start to give up and not able to grip well, i can feel my coilover is fighting with the softness of the tyres

why i use these cheapo tyres? i use my car for daily drive, i stuck in jam 80% of the time and rarely go over 110km/h in klang valley, and when raining most of the time i wont be able to drive fast anyway because the traffic will be slow or the visibility is poor, so no point using UHP from more reputable brand

and sometime i use my car to join autocross and gymkhana, those time i will change my front tyres to 245/45/17 threadwear 200 UUHP tyres, and these china tyres is more economical to burn and provide less grip allow my rear to lock up easier when pull handbrake for power slide

using china tyres is not dangerous, what is dangerous is the driver doesn't respect the tyres limit, often go beyond what the tyres can handle causing lost of grip and hence blame the tyres is bad, when i get a set of new tyres, i always try to do emergency braking for a few times to find its limit, then drive within that limit and giving space between the car in front in case of emergency

This post has been edited by amduser: Oct 9 2024, 09:01 PM
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post Oct 11 2024, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 9 2024, 08:57 PM)
i have been using few set of china/thailand/indonesia cheap tyres, below is those i have tried, their price range is around RM 150 to RM 180 depends on where you buy them
- Windforce Catchfors - best grip in wet and dry among all i've tried, steering response also good and sidewall is stiff, noise level is good until <50% thread then will become noisier
- farroad frd26 - can feel a bit delay in steering response, NVH is poor and noisy
- forget-the-name-but-end-with-Force - very soft sidewall, poor steering response, but noise level is the most quiet among all, wet grip is poorer than farroad frd26, this is more for budget and quiet and comfortable driving
- Massimo Leone L1 - it has the same thread pattern and same performance as farroad frd26

i'm driving Mazda 3, with aftermarket adjustable coilover, i also downgraded all my rims from 18" to a replica thailand 17" rims using 215/45/17 tyres size

Windforce Catchfors has surprisingly good performance, over 170km/h still able to handle well, while the rest of the tyres hold up well up to 160-170 km/h on dry, going faster than that it will start to give up and not able to grip well, i can feel my coilover is fighting with the softness of the tyres

why i use these cheapo tyres? i use my car for daily drive, i stuck in jam 80% of the time and rarely go over 110km/h in klang valley, and when raining most of the time i wont be able to drive fast anyway because the traffic will be slow or the visibility is poor, so no point using UHP from more reputable brand

and sometime i use my car to join autocross and gymkhana, those time i will change my front tyres to 245/45/17 threadwear 200 UUHP tyres, and these china tyres is more economical to burn and provide less grip allow my rear to lock up easier when pull handbrake for power slide

using china tyres is not dangerous, what is dangerous is the driver doesn't respect the tyres limit, often go beyond what the tyres can handle causing lost of grip and hence blame the tyres is bad, when i get a set of new tyres, i always try to do emergency braking for a few times to find its limit, then drive within that limit and giving space between the car in front in case of emergency
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So Many Variables to work with...Jam, time spent..actual speed of tires tested. Guess only way is try/test and go from there.

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post Nov 9 2024, 05:36 PM

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Any user feedback on these two tyres for suv?

Vitour tempesta quattro
Joyroad centara grand tourer

 

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