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TSDalexand
post Aug 23 2024, 11:52 PM, updated 2y ago

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I recently was tyre shopping and noticed a lot of promotions of Chinese, Thailand made Tyres. The rubber compound and thread pattern
look similar to the Well know branded ones. Anyone tried any of these ? Looking for some real data usage, i.e. Dry/Wet weather grip.
Thread wear etc.

Appreciate any feedback.

Thank you.

TSDalexand
post Aug 28 2024, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Aug 24 2024, 01:24 AM)
How much you save per tyre? 50? 100?

Is it worth risking you and your family life for 50 bucks 100 bucks? Dunlop j6 series is already very cheap and at least branded and made in Malaysia, where we are rubber expert
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Its not about risking live or whatever. The question is to gauge how the China Tyres compare. All new products from any country will need exposure
before they get market share.

Thanks for your feedback
TSDalexand
post Aug 28 2024, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 24 2024, 10:13 AM)
My sibling uses Lion something brand from China on a Myvi, after 50K km still has about 4 mm tread thickness left.

I would expect it could last 80-90K km easily.

Associating tyres made in Thailand or China to risk and life threathening is so un-science and arbitrarily imho when 'soil' from the back of Moon has been collected and scrutinised in laboratories on mother earth.
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Will research this 'LION' brand. Thank you
TSDalexand
post Sep 2 2024, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(kira_88 @ Sep 2 2024, 10:18 AM)
My experience with china tyre is that they dont have good grip on wet. Dry is acceptable. this was long time ago and I think their tech should mature more now.

Unless you're doing hardspirited driving I think a china tyre is still better than botak tyre.

You can consider Hankook as my experience their wet & dry grip is excellent at their price point.
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Thank you all for the feedback. IF anyone else has additonal FB, would like to hear from you.

Have a great day.
TSDalexand
post Sep 3 2024, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Sep 2 2024, 09:34 PM)
Not sure about the model you referenced, but I am using the Racng Pro model.

Name sounds very canggih, but in actual use, it isn't a high performance, UHP kind of tyre. Using the 223/55R17 size, and man, the sidewalls are soft. So soft that at car recommended tyre pressure of 240kPa, it will look macam pancit. Got up the pressure to 280kPa to be normal looking.

Not just the pressure side, even the performance side is confirmed to be a touring tyre despite the canggih model name. Smooth, comfortable and QUIET are its main forte. I dare say it is more quiet than Primacy 3ST.

Chose this coz the Rovelo Sports A1 XL at the rear developed steel-belt failure aka pregnant at thread area during CNY. So changed out 2 Rovelo and in with the Powertrac.

So one should not expect these low budget tyres to be high performance type despite their glamourous model series/names. I Knew that from onset but tried them nonetheless as the car on these tyres is chalking very low mileage; no point putting on P4/MC7/005A/VP4 etc.
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Interesting note. Good info. Thanks
TSDalexand
post Sep 5 2024, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Sep 3 2024, 11:14 AM)
TS should consider Giti , used the 280 series in E90, had lasted more than 40k km, good dry and wet grip. Pretty hard to find
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Thank you will research
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post Sep 14 2024, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 11 2024, 10:12 AM)
If possible take those Chinese brand that they have owned factory instead of OEM factory.

OEM tyre factory can put any brand as long as you willing to order few containers tyre. They can print the brand name on tyre sidewall Dalexand Tyre, Lowyat Tyre, Jibby Tyre and all kind of funny brand name.

These following brands are reputable and reliable. Zhongce Rubber, Sailun group, Cheng Shin Tires, Ling Long and Giti.
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be interesting to know if they use an OEM factory. Think they must have own with R&D all.

Thanks
TSDalexand
post Sep 21 2024, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 19 2024, 07:59 AM)
The OEM factory R&D is very simple. They just copy the bunga from reputable brand but what they did not capable to copy is the "material". The material play very important role such as high performance silica which can achieve low rolling resistent for fuel saving meanwhile improve wet condition performance.
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its the hard or soft compound that is important right ? Soon will have to get a set to test.

thanks
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post Oct 11 2024, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 9 2024, 08:57 PM)
i have been using few set of china/thailand/indonesia cheap tyres, below is those i have tried, their price range is around RM 150 to RM 180 depends on where you buy them
- Windforce Catchfors - best grip in wet and dry among all i've tried, steering response also good and sidewall is stiff, noise level is good until <50% thread then will become noisier
- farroad frd26 - can feel a bit delay in steering response, NVH is poor and noisy
- forget-the-name-but-end-with-Force - very soft sidewall, poor steering response, but noise level is the most quiet among all, wet grip is poorer than farroad frd26, this is more for budget and quiet and comfortable driving
- Massimo Leone L1 - it has the same thread pattern and same performance as farroad frd26

i'm driving Mazda 3, with aftermarket adjustable coilover, i also downgraded all my rims from 18" to a replica thailand 17" rims using 215/45/17 tyres size

Windforce Catchfors has surprisingly good performance, over 170km/h still able to handle well, while the rest of the tyres hold up well up to 160-170 km/h on dry, going faster than that it will start to give up and not able to grip well, i can feel my coilover is fighting with the softness of the tyres

why i use these cheapo tyres? i use my car for daily drive, i stuck in jam 80% of the time and rarely go over 110km/h in klang valley, and when raining most of the time i wont be able to drive fast anyway because the traffic will be slow or the visibility is poor, so no point using UHP from more reputable brand

and sometime i use my car to join autocross and gymkhana, those time i will change my front tyres to 245/45/17 threadwear 200 UUHP tyres, and these china tyres is more economical to burn and provide less grip allow my rear to lock up easier when pull handbrake for power slide

using china tyres is not dangerous, what is dangerous is the driver doesn't respect the tyres limit, often go beyond what the tyres can handle causing lost of grip and hence blame the tyres is bad, when i get a set of new tyres, i always try to do emergency braking for a few times to find its limit, then drive within that limit and giving space between the car in front in case of emergency
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So Many Variables to work with...Jam, time spent..actual speed of tires tested. Guess only way is try/test and go from there.

Thanks
Dale

 

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