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TSorenzai
post Nov 3 2007, 05:54 PM, updated 19y ago

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I now usually mix with the more senior photographer who came from the world of film... they said that digital photography has made everything so convenient... as i have seen, the younger generation do more photo editing compared to the older ones... from one that i know, we went to the same outing and the photos he came out was very dramatic and surreal... and another friend of mine, his pictures, all go through intensive photo editing to create those dramatic effects...

From my perpective, i would say that photo editing is Post Processing. Thus, is needed most of the time. I usually only do minor adjustments such as the white balance, level, curves and saturation etc to make it look more natural.

how bout you guys? do you just leave the photos as it is?

hope to know what are your opinions... thanks smile.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 06:00 PM

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10% sometimes you don't event need it at all if you ensure your settings are to your liking of the end product
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post Nov 3 2007, 06:03 PM

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haha...i think 30% would be reasonable lor.. but of course...its best if you don use it..save time and the hassle...
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post Nov 3 2007, 06:05 PM

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10% for me.. cause i dont know how to use except to crop and contrast it.
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post Nov 3 2007, 06:16 PM

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But...last time they do not have PP still could produce great pictures. PP might have helped us a lot in making the pictures perfect, but they are no longer your genuine work. When you are taking photos, we have the idea how to compose and tweak the settings, so we must bear with the outcome I guess. 'A picture says thousand of words'. If PP the photos , then it would be "An EDITED picture say thousand of words". It's true that the PP can make your pictures more dramatic if you fail to get the pictures you want when shooting. For me, I step into photography world because I want to learn the technique to compose the pictures and tweak the settings. Every photo I've snapped represents something for me (eventhough I am still learning). I would not edit my pictures loh by all means. Just my humble opinions though! Different person definitely has different thinking! Cheers!

Edited: I do use Photoshop to "kenakan' my friends though!! cool2.gif

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post Nov 3 2007, 06:18 PM

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this is Digital PP...last time, developing the photos was counted as PP...if the photo developer didnt do a good job...all the photos will not be what the photographer wants..thats why you see many photographers hiding is their own dark room developing photos..


Added on November 3, 2007, 6:21 pm
QUOTE(tkp13 @ Nov 3 2007, 06:16 PM)
But...last time they do not have PP still could produce great pictures. PP might have helped us a lot in making the pictures perfect, but they are no longer your genuine work. When you are taking photos, we have the idea how to compose and tweak the settings, so we must bear with the outcome I guess. 'A picture says thousand of words'. If PP the photos , then it would be "An EDITED picture say thousand of words". It's true that the PP can make your pictures more dramatic if you fail to get the pictures you want when shooting. For me, I step into photography world because I want to learn the technique to compose the pictures and tweak the settings. Every photo I've snapped represents something for me (eventhough I am still learning). I would not edit my pictures loh by all means. Just my humble opinions though! Different person definitely has different thinking! Cheers!

Edited: I do use Photoshop to "kenakan' my friends though!!  cool2.gif
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oh you got a very wrong concept bout PP... PP means you enchance your pictures... adding additional things is already counted as creativity... making the pictures look more dramatic does NOT mean that your photos is not a genuine work.. its the camera that interprets the wrong thing... PP adjusts your pictures to fine-tune your objective as no camera is perfect...

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post Nov 3 2007, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(orenzai @ Nov 3 2007, 05:54 PM)
I usually only do minor adjustments such as the white balance, level, curves and saturation etc to make it look more natural.


hrm. you snapped in RAW?

your MINOR doesn't look MINOR at all.

Anyway for me, I rarely do adjustments. What you see in my gallery is what it is most of the time. If not also I only adjust brightness and contrast, that also very minimal adjustments.

IMO we're now at a generation with a lot of cameraman but still not many photographers. We have lesser skilled people since it's Digital, people can spam like silly. after all, spam 10 - 20 shots on the same scene sure can have 1 correct. smile.gif come out already still can crop.
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post Nov 3 2007, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 3 2007, 06:21 PM)
hrm. you snapped in RAW?

your MINOR doesn't look MINOR at all.

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haha...you got me wrong there... i was just listing out the things i use in photoshop... i only use about 2 adjustments... eg levels and curves.. .and at times, i do those other adjustments i mentioned...sorry for the confusion...
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post Nov 3 2007, 06:27 PM

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"IMO we're now at a generation with a lot of cameraman but still not many photographers. We have lesser skilled people since it's Digital, people can spam like silly. after all, spam 10 - 20 shots on the same scene sure can have 1 correct. smile.gif come out already still can crop"

Totally agree with you. And the learning process in photography world is really a tough one. blush.gif
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post Nov 3 2007, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(tkp13 @ Nov 3 2007, 06:27 PM)
"IMO we're now at a generation with a lot of cameraman but still not many photographers. We have lesser skilled people since it's Digital, people can spam like silly. after all, spam 10 - 20 shots on the same scene sure can have 1 correct. smile.gif come out already still can crop"

Totally agree with you. And the learning process in photography world is really a tough one.  blush.gif
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i read an article bout a guy, who never touched a camera until he was 28yo, started taking up photography as a hobby...in about 2 years time, his work is already well-known..i think its in august issue of DCM malaysia if i am not wrong...
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post Nov 3 2007, 08:24 PM

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I guess mine will be 50%. Very often it's not that the shot ain't good. Just that I find that a little push on curve and level could make it better. Overall these are the reasons I edit my shot:
1. To make a good shot better
2. To clone out unwanted element
3. To reduce noise (especially with my S3IS)
4. To blur out the BG, specially when I'm shooting fauna, where a blur and uniform BG is important to make the object stand out.
5. To reduce the glare and bring out the shadow, where I found shadow/highlight most useful in this purpose
6. Sharpen the image after resize. I always sharpen a resized image using Smart Sharpen, before posting it up in the forum

One has said that taking a well composed photo is just 50% of the work, I can't agree more, especially when you are shooting RAW.
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:57 PM

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It really depends..If i like d shot im doing... i'll keep it as it is with minor adjustment like level...

But if im shooting with p n p camera with high Iso.. or just cant get the Quality of the image satisying ( either too much noise, too dark, or Blur) then i'll do all kind of ajustment and even effect.. .especially with blur photo..but yet the content of the image is what i wanna keep...

to some extent... I even edit a normal portrait photo... and blur the background to hav the bokeh effect which my p n p camera hardly able to achieve.... now tat is extreme editing..

Oh yeah.. i oso did sm edit for girl especially:

"make my laps slightly slimmer (LIQUIDFY TOOL!!)

"Pimples!! (CLONE TOOL!!)

"MAKE MY LEG more fair! ( select n edit)

n lots more... is fun..
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post Nov 4 2007, 02:47 AM

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im photo manipulator type. i vote for 50%.
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post Nov 4 2007, 02:52 AM

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geez.. if one really rely so much in photoediting, start calling urself photoshop editor.
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post Nov 4 2007, 02:55 AM

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Now 10% on editing photoshop, now Lightroom for raw conversion only.
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post Nov 4 2007, 06:43 AM

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i would prefer Camera RAW is PS3... its the most flexible yet simple RAW editing plugin/software i have ever used..
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post Nov 4 2007, 08:57 AM

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i guess mine wud be 10%-20% because im too lazy to edit pic tongue.gif
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post Nov 4 2007, 12:22 PM

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Put me around 10-20%, i will only use PP to increase exposure, contrast and brightness only if i found out my pics is underexposed. I did not used photoshop but i used ACD photo manager instead. tongue.gif

I would try my best not to rely too much to PP, but sometimes u have to resort it if ur pics looked under or over exposed. The only thing that i wont do in PP is to improve a subject's quality, say a model's clearer skin, pimples etc. Coz basically i dont know how to do that. sweat.gif
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post Nov 4 2007, 03:22 PM

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It depend on the tools that I used to take the pics. If it's a compact surely must pp up to sometimes 50% just to compensate it's shortness of features i.e filters. It it's a DSLR then I would say less than 10%.
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the only pp i do is levels and some very minor noise reduction and sharpening. all that in batch job. i dont usually crop unless the pics are totally ruined.

like some said here, the best thing is to get your pics first time right and not have any pp, i aiming towards that.

 

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