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Parts of Japan ‘likely to vanish’ as population shrinks
Lisa Visentin
July 28, 2024

Tokyo: Japan’s population has plummeted for the 15th year in a row, falling by more than 861,000 people, in a relentless decline that has policymakers grasping at unprecedented measures to encourage women to have more children.

The country’s population crisis was laid bare by fresh data showing that 2023 marked the biggest single-year decline as the number of Japanese nationals hit 121.6 million people - a decrease of 861,237 people, or 0.7 per cent, from a year before, according to the Japan’s Internal Affairs Ministry.

The decline, shown in the data released last week, was not offset by an 11 per cent increase in foreign residents, which peaked at 3.3 million in 2023, also marking a record since the ministry began collecting data on this demographic factor in 2013.

Japan’s shrinking population is being driven by a stubbornly low birth rate - a challenge that many advanced economies are grappling with - and one frequently attributed to changing attitudes among women toward economic independence, the rising cost of living, and limited child support measures that see women forced to choose between having careers or a family.

However, the issue is so acute in Japan that a group of population experts called the Population Strategy Council, warned in a report in April that 744 of Japan’s 1729 municipalities were “likely to vanish” by 2050 due to population shrinkage.

Prime Minister Fumio Kishida declared last year that Japan was on the brink of social dysfunction due to the population decline, saying the few years until the 2030s represented the country’s “last chance” to reverse the trend before it would become “difficult to maintain our social security system and our local communities”.

In June, the Japanese parliament passed a law to expand monthly child allowances and parental leave, as part of what the Kishida government has called “measures of unprecedented levels” to tackle the declining birth rate.

The government earmarked 5.3 trillion yen ($34 billion) as part of the 2024 budget to fund incentives for young couples to have more children, such as increasing subsidies for childcare and education, and is expected to spend 3.6 trillion yen ($23 billion) annually over the next three years.

But experts say the measures are largely meant for married couples who plan to have or who already have children, and don’t address the growing number of young people reluctant to get married.

Japan’s population is projected to fall by about 30 per cent, to 87 million by 2070, when four out of every 10 people will be 65 or older.

Dr Yasuo Takao, a political scientist at Curtin University, has argued that Japan’s conservative lawmakers were clinging to traditional family structures when increasing numbers of younger Japanese women and men were indicating they did not want to get married.

“The way forward is to move beyond the traditional ‘standard family’ structure and ensure that individuals who want children — whether they are single or in common-law marriages — can raise them without financial or emotional insecurity,” Takao wrote in the East Asia Forum publication this month.

Renowned Japanese women’s equality advocate Dr Meguro Yoriko has claimed “the persistence of patriarchal attitudes among the men who run our corporations is the biggest reason for the continued decline in the birthrate”, and has called for measures to address gender pay gaps.

“The number of births will continue to drop as long as society insists that they take place within the traditional institution of marriage,” she argued in an analysis last year.

Source: https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/asia...728-p5jx5q.html
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Living in big city is depressing but nobody has a solution to diversify the economy out of big cities. Just look at the birth rates in rural areas vs big cities.

Wow in 50 years time, 40% of Japan will be oldfag and the majority will be middle aged or older.



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Kuma clan will claim its own tuff. So on and so forth.
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same same news as korean and japan people disappear / extinct

not sure will happen in malaysia tho, i think sg is the next one since they have 40% above foreign people > sg people
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its going to happen to us later.
wiminz expectation too high, too much entertainment everywhere, robot waifu will appear sooner or later, having children is too costly, etc.
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Jul 29 2024, 01:59 PM)
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if they didnt spread their legs for local, what makes you think they spread their legs for lowly foreigners?  laugh.gif
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Nothing to do with economy and income. The higher the income the more likely to have less children.
Women no longer see being a homemaker as a noble goal. They see caring for child as a chore and burden. We have been raised as consumers, not nurturer.
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“ The number of births will continue to drop as long as society insists that they take place within the traditional institution of marriage,” she argued in an analysis last year.”

I was right! Single motherhood’s will become encouraged to solve population crisis!

Also, non binaries and gay dads can be encouraged to adopt these kids!

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its going to happen to us later.
wiminz expectation too high, too much entertainment everywhere, robot waifu will appear sooner or later, having children is too costly, etc.
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It's social media. You let ladies see influenza go holiday & shopping everyday, they'll never be happy with their own life. Thing is, some of these ladies didn't realize they're comparing 1 person against dozens who are probably richer than them. Sure kenot fight lah.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jul 29 2024, 02:10 PM)
“ The number of births will continue to drop as long as society insists that they take place within the traditional institution of marriage,” she argued in an analysis last year.”

I was right! Single motherhood’s will become encouraged to solve population crisis!

Also, non binaries and gay dads can be encouraged to adopt these kids!
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Pancut dalam and abandon your kid then let your baby mama give your child away to groomers.

Solusi yang bernas.
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Jul 29 2024, 02:14 PM)
It's social media. You let ladies see influenza go holiday & shopping everyday, they'll never be happy with their own life. Thing is, some of these ladies didn't realize they're comparing 1 person against dozens who are probably richer than them. Sure kenot fight lah.
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at this rate, mens should make hostels with all bunch of mens taking care of each others (not sexual of course).

people were saying there are so many anak dara tua, but why they are not make themselves approachable? are they waiting for a perfect man to drop from the sky?
strangers that will attempt to talk with them sure will be labeled as creepy guy. also people cant differentiate if someone is married or not without asking.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jul 29 2024, 02:59 PM)
its going to happen to us later.
wiminz expectation too high, too much entertainment everywhere, robot waifu will appear sooner or later, having children is too costly, etc.
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It already happening most of the country including Malaysia, either die single, not want married or having child.
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Lelaki dan perempuan both also don't want to have anak. Mean next generation is anak accidentally one, silap pacut dlm.
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Jul 29 2024, 02:25 PM)
at this rate, mens should make hostels with all bunch of mens taking care of each others (not sexual of course).

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Sei gay lou mrrobert dupe detected
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QUOTE(Marcion @ Jul 29 2024, 02:29 PM)
It already happening most of the country including Malaysia, either die single,not want married or having child.
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dont think this is true in most case, they want to marry, just only with the creme of the crop. ironically this kind of people are likely to be married anyway.
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QUOTE(spursfan @ Jul 29 2024, 02:14 PM)
It's social media. You let ladies see influenza go holiday & shopping everyday, they'll never be happy with their own life. Thing is, some of these ladies didn't realize they're comparing 1 person against dozens who are probably richer than them. Sure kenot fight lah.
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Which woman don’t like comparing one? It’s genetic, before social media also that’s their favorite thing to do when they get together. Now they get to compare on steroids.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jul 29 2024, 02:34 PM)
Sei gay lou mrrobert dupe detected
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kepala hotak ang gay, more like incel mindset lel. laugh.gif
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oh! reminds me of this one article quite some time back..

A Bittersweet Ending for a Japanese Train Station and Its Lone Passenger
On the island of Hokkaido, the Kyu-shirataki train station’s last remaining patron—a student—has graduated from high school.

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The story of a defunct train station in Hokkaido, Japan, that stayed open so that its sole patron—a teenage girl—could commute to school has come to a bittersweet end: Eighteen-year-old Kana Harada graduated from high school last Friday, March 25, and the Kyu-shirataki station—where she boarded a train every morning to travel to school, about 35 minutes away—has finally closed.

"I got on and off this train for the last three years, and this station's presence has become something I have taken for granted," Harada told Reuters in January. "I do feel sad to think it will disappear." Over this time, trains have serviced the Kyu-shirataki station just once per morning, to pick up Harada, and a few times in the afternoon to drop off passengers. Two other stations in the region, Kami-Shirataki and Shimo-Shirataki, have also recently closed due to low ridership as Japan reaches the end of its fiscal year.
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QUOTE(skloda @ Jul 29 2024, 02:42 PM)
living cost too high ... dunwan burden the next generation .....
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partly due to inheritance tax...
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QUOTE(kons @ Jul 29 2024, 03:02 PM)
partly due to inheritance tax...
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Sure that doesn't help, but places like Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Portugal, Sweden, Hong Kong, Singapore, Italy don't have inheritance taxes. Not exactly places that are popping out kids either. I don't think it is inheritance tax that are stopping people from having kids.
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Dafuq, why don't want to make baby wan, at least got 1 children maa
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Dafuq, why don't want to make baby wan, at least got 1 children maa
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So you will pay to take care of them babies made?
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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jul 29 2024, 01:58 PM)
Every people with brain cell should already realize breeding is animal instinct and there is no reason for us to breed. Marriage is a scam too btw.
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Imagine can pick a few JAV moi moi as wife, give you whole village + money .... no need work just piap and breed. JAV NEED to turn this idea to video .......
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Jul 29 2024, 03:42 PM)
oh! reminds me of this one article quite some time back..

A Bittersweet Ending for a Japanese Train Station and Its Lone Passenger
On the island of Hokkaido, the Kyu-shirataki train station’s last remaining patron—a student—has graduated from high school.

user posted image

The story of a defunct train station in Hokkaido, Japan, that stayed open so that its sole patron—a teenage girl—could commute to school has come to a bittersweet end: Eighteen-year-old Kana Harada graduated from high school last Friday, March 25, and the Kyu-shirataki station—where she boarded a train every morning to travel to school, about 35 minutes away—has finally closed.

"I got on and off this train for the last three years, and this station's presence has become something I have taken for granted," Harada told Reuters in January. "I do feel sad to think it will disappear." Over this time, trains have serviced the Kyu-shirataki station just once per morning, to pick up Harada, and a few times in the afternoon to drop off passengers. Two other stations in the region, Kami-Shirataki and Shimo-Shirataki, have also recently closed due to low ridership as Japan reaches the end of its fiscal year.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 29 2024, 01:00 PM)
Living in big city is depressing but nobody has a solution to spread the economy out of big cities. Just look at the birth rates in rural areas vs big cities.

Wow in 50 years time, 40% of Japan will be oldfag and the majority will be middle aged or older.
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Being Japanese is depressing, they r loners and you have to follow the group.
cannot dare to be different.

from graduating to retirement have to be stuck with same co, cannot change job.

high cost of living, and japanese women high standard, cause men dun want to marry.

some more their jobs force them to work very late, come back home late, cannot spend time with family.

no surprise many parts are likely to vanish with schools closing due to lack of enrolment caused by low marriage n birth rates.
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Dafuq, why don't want to make baby wan, at least got 1 children maa
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Just 1 won't quite solve the issue. 1 dad + 1 mum -> 1 kid, the number is reduced half
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QUOTE(mowlous @ Jul 29 2024, 03:29 PM)
Imagine can pick a few JAV moi moi as wife, give you whole village + money .... no need work just piap and breed. JAV NEED to turn this idea to video .......
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But would it increase the birth rate?
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jul 29 2024, 03:34 PM)
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Being Japanese is depressing, they r loners and you have to follow the group.
cannot dare to be different.

from graduating to retirement have to be stuck with same co, cannot change job.

high cost of living, and japanese women high standard, cause men dun want to marry.

some more their jobs force them to work very late, come back home late, cannot spend time with family.

no surprise many parts are likely to vanish with schools closing due to lack of enrolment caused by low marriage n birth rates.
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Very different from Chinese and Korean culture meh?

https://stat.fi/til/synt/2019/02/synt_2019_...tie_001_en.html

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According to Statistics Finland’s data on population changes, over the past ten years, the birth rate has been falling steadily both in rural and urban areas. The birth rate is clearly higher in rural areas, but its significance to the birth rate of the whole country has diminished as a result of urbanisation. Altogether 78 per cent of all persons born in 2019 were born in urban areas.


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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Jul 29 2024, 01:49 PM)
same same news as korean and japan people disappear / extinct

not sure will happen in malaysia tho, i think sg is the next one since they have 40% above foreign people > sg people
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Malaysia apa risau? Certain demography given tongkat from birth to death certainly will breed like no tomorrow. Our future is ensured rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 29 2024, 03:43 PM)
Very different from Chinese and Korean culture meh?

https://stat.fi/til/synt/2019/02/synt_2019_...tie_001_en.html
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China people at least can change jobs.

but jepunis once they change jobs, cannot find one.

its employment for life.

Not saying PRC life is easy, its hard but still better than jepunis
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jul 29 2024, 03:46 PM)
China people at least can change jobs.

but jepunis once they change jobs, cannot find one.

its employment for life.

Not saying PRC life is easy, its hard but still better than jepunis
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What's the point arguing about small differences when the overall trend is all rich countries have low birth rate?

Asian women say Asian culture too traditional bla bla bla, but AMDK also low birth rate.

Some people say single motherhood is the solution. Yeah, it's a great solution to turn 5000 yo civilization into 300,000 yo civilization.
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well just bring in the breeding specialist i.e. rohingya, give em 10 years, population will be stabilized. Interested to see how jepuning + rohingyan hybrid look like
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 29 2024, 03:51 PM)
What's the point arguing about small differences when the overall trend is all rich countries have low birth rate?

Asian women say Asian culture too traditional bla bla bla, but AMDK also low birth rate.

Some people say single motherhood is the solution. Yeah, it's a great solution to turn 5000 yo civilization into 300,000 yo civilization.
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So japan birth rate how much vs ric western country?
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So japan birth rate how much vs ric western country?
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Anything below replacement rate of 2.1 is low la.
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QUOTE(haya @ Jul 29 2024, 03:15 PM)
Sure that doesn't help, but places like Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Portugal, Sweden, Hong Kong, Singapore, Italy don't have inheritance taxes. Not exactly places that are popping out kids either. I don't think it is inheritance tax that are stopping people from having kids.
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when they cannot find a permanent place to stay, why would someone be thinking about having babies?
would you start a family in a rented room/rented house?
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Stating one's income is common on Japanese dating apps, but Tokyo will require a tax certificate slip to prove the annual salary.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/06/0...kyo-dating-app/

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well just bring in the breeding specialist i.e. rohingya, give em 10 years, population will be stabilized. Interested to see how jepuning + rohingyan hybrid look like
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jul 29 2024, 04:46 PM)
China people at least can change jobs.

but jepunis once they change jobs, cannot find one.

its employment for life.

Not saying PRC life is easy, its hard but still better than jepunis
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QUOTE(kons @ Jul 29 2024, 04:03 PM)
when they cannot find a permanent place to stay, why would someone be thinking about having babies?
would you start a family in a rented room/rented house?
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What does this have to do with inheritance tax?

Places like Singapore have one of the highest rates of home ownership

Japan despite their inheritance tax also very high rates of home ownership

I don't think inheritance taxes in Japan (and other countries with inheritance taxes) are the reason why people are not having kids
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jul 29 2024, 03:46 PM)
China people at least can change jobs.

but jepunis once they change jobs, cannot find one.

its employment for life.


Not saying PRC life is easy, its hard but still better than jepunis
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Employment for life died after the Lehman Shock of 2008, not that it was a common occurrence post 1989. (Especially in the late 1990's when companies were trying find ways of letting go the employment for life people)
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QUOTE(haya @ Jul 29 2024, 04:18 PM)
What does this have to do with inheritance tax?

Places like Singapore have one of the highest rates of home ownership

Japan despite their inheritance tax also very high rates of home ownership

I don't think inheritance taxes in Japan (and other countries with inheritance taxes) are the reason why people are not having kids
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malaysia only has 24k abandoned unit altogether.

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its going to happen to us later.
wiminz expectation too high, too much entertainment everywhere, robot waifu will appear sooner or later, having children is too costly, etc.
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Its already happened...only 2 of my siblings get married
Others dont care..already in their 30s
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Sad. Their culture also gonna go extinct soon. Their lgbt is much much better than stupid woke western lgbt
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because it is. now tell me why people should get married
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ur parents got married, so tat u r not a certified bastard laugh.gif

jokes aside, maybe u wil find true love wub.gif one day my fren

live a little, take more risk
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The deers(Nara clan) will take back to nature.

Kuma clan will claim its own tuff. So on and so forth.
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Meet real girl pun tidak semestinya nak beranak
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This is happening everywhere even in msia where all roads lead to either kl, pineng or jb.

The reality is that people go to where the jobs are, and the good jobs are in the big cities cities. If area got good jobs that can support families (Big mining, DCs, manufacturing) then people will move there.
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QUOTE(poooky @ Jul 29 2024, 05:17 PM)
This is happening everywhere even in msia where all roads lead to either kl, pineng or jb.

The reality is that people go to where the jobs are, and the good jobs are in the big cities cities. If area got good jobs that can support families (Big mining, DCs, manufacturing) then people will move there.
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US already slowly moving towards a work from home (WFH) culture. People are moving out of big cities and moving into more rural town/cities due to lower house prices.

https://fortune.com/2024/05/07/small-towns-...remote-workers/

I believe many jobs in Japan can do WFH, but Japanese culture is probably too old fashion/stubborn to do WFH.

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I don't understand the population decline issue in general. Why is population decline something many countries are worried about? Compared to 50 years ago population is a damn lot higher. So whats the fuss? Many things were better 50 years ago.
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Like a scene from ATRI where some parts of Japan sunk into the ocean with minimal casualties.
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Jul 29 2024, 05:39 PM)
I don't understand the population decline issue in general. Why is population decline something many countries are worried about? Compared to 50 years ago population is a damn lot higher. So whats the fuss? Many things were better 50 years ago.
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Wait another fifty years. When every one around you is same age as you and young people are a rarity. Imagine everywhere you go everyone talks to you like Biden

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let it be la... they dont like migrants so pandai2 la jaga their own population
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Jul 29 2024, 05:35 PM)
US already slowly moving towards a work from home (WFH) culture. People are moving out of big cities and moving into more rural town/cities due to lower house prices.

https://fortune.com/2024/05/07/small-towns-...remote-workers/

I believe many jobs in Japan can do WFH, but Japanese culture is probably too old fashion/stubborn to do WFH.
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Japan is still a highly manufacturing country. Can’t wfh for these.
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Japan is still a highly manufacturing country. Can’t wfh for these.
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But Japan also got alot software/programming/IT related job where you don't need to go to office to do work.

For example all the gaming company in Japan, how many people are employed in those company?

But I bet zero of them are doing WFH because Japanese very old fashion.
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Jul 29 2024, 05:39 PM)
I don't understand the population decline issue in general. Why is population decline something many countries are worried about? Compared to 50 years ago population is a damn lot higher. So whats the fuss? Many things were better 50 years ago.
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The concern is pop pyramid become invert with less young people to support
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 29 2024, 04:03 PM)
Anything below replacement rate of 2.1 is low la.
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Is japan signficantly lower?

we dun hear so extreme like schools closing in USA>

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Is japan signficantly lower?

we dun hear so extreme like schools closing in USA>
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Western countries more open to immigration than Japan.
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I saw in James May’s show, there was one village in Japan where most of its residents have migrated and being replaced with dolls.

Creepy yo.
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Is japan signficantly lower?

we dun hear so extreme like schools closing in USA>
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Japan has seen the closure of some 8,580 public schools since 2002, due to extreme population decline
https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/living...ulation-decline

Empty classrooms, silent halls: Taiwan’s declining birthrate forces schools to close

Authorities fear looming economic crises caused by an expanding elderly population without enough workers to support them
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2...lose-population
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Jul 29 2024, 04:54 PM)
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Nani Nani.. nan debayo.

Sanzoku ikimasu.

I believe Nippon will be alright even with the depopulation.

Yes, there will be whole villages abandoned. Maybe even places with Koi pedigree fishes in the streams that used to be a longkang of a village. And the koi will be able to swim up some tall water fall and once again become the legendary Dragon.

Who do you blame? JAV.


STOP flapping and go get a real person. Yes, it is alot of unforeseeable risk, investment beyond our limits. At the end of the day, not a question about is it worth it but have you walked down that path.








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We just 33m. Severely underpopulated we have to import workers.

Worry about us better. Everybody need to make more babies.
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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Jul 29 2024, 01:49 PM)
same same news as korean and japan people disappear / extinct

not sure will happen in malaysia tho, i think sg is the next one since they have 40% above foreign people > sg people
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Malaysia case affect the cina lor. Apuneneh pops also not much but I doubt they are increasing

QUOTE(zerorating @ Jul 29 2024, 01:59 PM)
its going to happen to us later.
wiminz expectation too high, too much entertainment everywhere, robot waifu will appear sooner or later, having children is too costly, etc.
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Muslim women where got expectation high? U must be looking in the wrong place my friend.

No spread legs? KAPOW!
No make samwich? KAPOW!
Cakap byk²? KAPAO KAPOW!!!

confirm 200% obedience. U see mid east cuntries got population problem? Just export them to Europe la wkwkwkwk
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First thing first, remove the expectation of working long hours in Japan and people might reconsider to have kids
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QUOTE(kons @ Jul 29 2024, 04:27 PM)
japan has approximately 8m abandoned home all around the country.

malaysia only has 24k abandoned unit altogether.
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the thing is because time passed by flies, the next time you looked at the number it will quadruple. then the number from there rise very fast... we can easily have about 200k abandoned house by 2 decades later

QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Jul 29 2024, 06:31 PM)
We just 33m. Severely underpopulated we have to import workers.

Worry about us better. Everybody need to make more babies.
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And our birthrates already dropping.

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And our birthrates already dropping.
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Understatement. It has been dropping for decades. Even Malay birth rate hovering around 2 now.
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The amount of pancut dalam in JAV thought would have increased birth rate
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 30 2024, 01:27 AM)
Understatement. It has been dropping for decades. Even Malay birth rate hovering around 2 now.
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Within the next 2 decades can feel the effects. smile.gif Just a matter of time, before foreigners take over our lands.

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already suggested this:

create a new township to mimic how it was in the 80's again, affordable lifestyle, simple jobs, focus on family creation, cut off socmed and internet, give more meaning to living again.
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The amount of pancut dalam in JAV thought would have increased birth rate
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FYI grampa, the first birth control pill was approved in 1957.

Also, most of the creampies in JAV are fake.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 30 2024, 02:09 AM)
FYI grampa, the first birth control pill was approved in 1957.

Also, most of the creampies in JAV are fake.
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Done a lot of research quite a number are real
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Done a lot of research quite a number are real
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The effcee2 and Tokyo-panas ones look real. The mainstream studios rarely real unless the title says Real Pastry. But even then, you'll only be able to tell if u decensor the video using jay-ehvee player. If can see helmet means fake la.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 30 2024, 03:50 AM)
The effcee2 and Tokyo-panas ones look real. The mainstream studios rarely real unless the title says Real Pastry. But even then, you'll only be able to tell if u decensor the video using jay-ehvee player. If can see helmet means fake la.
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Jul 30 2024, 01:16 AM)
the thing is because time passed by flies, the next time you looked at the number it will quadruple. then the number from there rise very fast... we can easily have about 200k abandoned house by 2 decades later
And our birthrates already dropping.
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still low number of abandoned home compare to japan.

when we introduce inheritance tax here... i think the birthrate will be even lower.
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QUOTE(kons @ Jul 30 2024, 08:27 AM)
still low number of abandoned home compare to japan.

when we introduce inheritance tax here... i think the birthrate will be even lower.
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our population also a quarter of Japan, that's how i estimate the number biggrin.gif
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our population also a quarter of Japan, that's how i estimate the number biggrin.gif
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our abandoned house is less than 1% of japan number.
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Ohhhh dsai can go there n encourage Japan to take in some Palestinian refugees that will help a lot
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Nani Nani.. nan debayo.

Sanzoku ikimasu.

I believe Nippon will be alright even with the depopulation.

Yes, there will be whole villages abandoned. Maybe even places with Koi pedigree fishes in the streams that used to be a longkang of a village. And the koi will be able to swim up some tall water fall and once again become the legendary Dragon.

Who do you blame? JAV.
STOP flapping and go get a real person. Yes, it is alot of unforeseeable risk, investment beyond our limits. At the end of the day, not a question about is it worth it but have you walked down that path.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jul 29 2024, 01:00 PM)
Living in big city is depressing but nobody has a solution to diversify the economy out of big cities. Just look at the birth rates in rural areas vs big cities.

Wow in 50 years time, 40% of Japan will be oldfag and the majority will be middle aged or older.
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Watched some travel video on YouTube. There is part of rural place people there abandoned the place to go to big city like Tokyo but still left good nice empty house and big land. The youtube said people there encourages foreigners migrate there having family and taken over empty house and land.

Got one Malaysian Malay migrated there and married Japanese woman and start having farm. Looks nice man. Perfect place to retire there.

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Jul 30 2024, 09:25 AM)
Watched some travel video on YouTube. There is part of rural place people there abandoned the place to go to big city like Tokyo but still left good nice empty house and big land. The youtube said people there encourages foreigners migrate there having family and taken over empty house and land.

Got one Malaysian Malay migrated there and married Japanese woman and start having farm. Looks nice man. Perfect place to retire there.
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What if that town becomes completely abandoned?
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That is why stop progressing so fast. The faster you progress, the faster the country hit population decline. Keep regressing like west malaysia and it should be fine.
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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Jul 29 2024, 06:06 PM)
Japan has seen the closure of some 8,580 public schools since 2002, due to extreme population decline
https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/living...ulation-decline

Empty classrooms, silent halls: Taiwan’s declining birthrate forces schools to close

Authorities fear looming economic crises caused by an expanding elderly population without enough workers to support them
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2...lose-population
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QUOTE(h@ksam @ Jul 30 2024, 01:46 AM)
already suggested this:

create a new township to mimic how it was in the 80's again, affordable lifestyle, simple jobs, focus on family creation, cut off socmed and internet, give more meaning to living again.
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“ The number of births will continue to drop as long as society insists that they take place within the traditional institution of marriage,” she argued in an analysis last year.”

I was right! Single motherhood’s will become encouraged to solve population crisis!

Also, non binaries and gay dads can be encouraged to adopt these kids!
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