dem versioning jump lol 1.7 straight to 2.0
someone at hoyo got their math from micro$oft

had my best pull for hsoh agents and vivian, hopefully next one wont be cat girl

JFF and Pan Yin Hu are strictly made to support YX, unless they roll out further Annihilation units in the foreseeable future. And also with YX scaling with HP% > HP > ATK% > ATK, with ATK stats being highly undesirable with her, Astra won't make much of a difference supporting her. Yixuan is basically just HP% damage dealer with reliance on crit substats. If you have plans to make YX a staple, JFF is a must lol.

Welp just get xy first
Jff and astra can get later lol...

If shat happens eg got cat girl again
Will just get whatever come first
They need to release some good 4s support like what hsr/gi can offer

My team now are all atk or anomaly...
I can't game any longer as I'm suspected to have carpal tunnel syndrome, both hands has been getting numb feeling on fingers, joints are pains as well have to cracks to ease the pain

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The fack man, in order to adopt inky the black cat, i have to complete the whole appregio fault, like very 20 levels lol... because it's prerequisite, other wise inky will forever stuck in same place, will not appear and will protag not gain trust.

i've been speed running the TV maze for whole day and im still not done lol
i hate this kind of requirements in games.

EDIT: whoever hate the old skool TV maze will cry mama for sure, it's too repetitive and boring, i mean, you really need do go through the whole thing before you can see inky appear again. gosh.

This post has been edited by 1024kbps: Jun 2 2025, 02:00 AM

160 draws

1 yixuan
1 astra
1 yixuan weapon

20 draws left saving for jufufu

finally, A WORLD MAP IN ZZZ, like, i keep hearibf janus quarter for N times then there was no way to know where is the place lol

got yixuan and her w-egine too, but w-engine depleted my chrome reservoir lol
The heck they put astra together lol, skipping her and wait for JFF....

Sequence of increase trust with Inky
First encounter at 6th street, most people failed this lol
second is S11 sotry quest
Third is Arpeggio Fault, 25 level of TV MAZE MAMA MIA, no better than watching paint dry
FORTH go to port Elpis, at night, complete onedennyboo quest, catch fish.
go back to 6th Stree, feed the cat
then Inky with S11 will appear at late evening/midnight, behind arcade...
Talk to S11, Jonah/Roy, then you can buy cat food at 141 conveniences store
Things should be go smoothly from now onwards

in the past week i cheong-ed most quests just for adopt inky....

EDIT:

very close to adopting now

This post has been edited by 1024kbps: Jun 7 2025, 11:49 PM

Real sorry to hear that. Have you consulted the physiotherapist? Carpal tunnel can be managed with consistent stretches and exercises. Best to nip it in the bud before it spirals into permanent nerve damage. I thought I had carpal tunnel too until I consulted a physio and confirmed my sensations were a result of stiff shoulder muscles that weren't mobilized long-term. It's just aging frankly, but I recommend seeing physios, and if you already have, seek a second opinion. Long-term treatments are expensive for sure, but you'll avoid larger billl.

Also haven't pulled for YX. Dumped everything into Vivian's banner for M3 + W1. But invested in IKM to hedge. Currently sitting 100 pulls, will see what happens come YX banner end. Don't know if I can do YX + JFF b2b.

I can only game when I'm on sick leave lol
Been like this for 6 years, my job is demanding, physical and mental
i have stiff shoulder as well neck, foot joint pain, the list goes on...
I'm in Singapore where medical bill is crazily high, probably will seek treatment elsewhere
Need to get armrest, but for now I don't game for prolonged hours, I usually rest between map, or shorter period, I get tried very fast due to visual impairment too, damn I'm old dog now lol

I'm not sure whether to get astra for now or wait for jff, both are lower priority for now as story quest don't really need to beef up the team, already depleted my chrome
Too many atk, too little support

Astra is a universal support that will benefit anyone, even if she's not Yi Xuan's most optimal support. JFF probably exists to help YX as we discussed. That reminds me, some guides on YX for those trying to figure out her rots.




Also, ZZZ just revealed their drip.



S-rank phys support. Alice aka the rabbit girl from livestream is in 2.1 too I read, will see when her drip happens tomorrow.

For real though, I recommend consulting a physio, or travel down to JB for weekly treatments. Better late than never.

Satania from Gabriel dropout
Lol

Okay I'm going to get astra, what we need is universal support, since I already have her manager lol

Yeah I probably need some serious treatment, I always have stiff neck/shoulder
Plus my abs have muscle pain that won't going away for month, something is very wrong...
What clinic do were just giving out pain killer

Yuzuha kit leak. In short, anomaly-dedicated phys support






Alice kit leak. Phys Miyabi basically. Scales with crit, plays like Miyabi except you spam EX over BA.





Yuzuha is expected to be every anomaly's best support when she drops > Astra.

1024kbps separate response for this. On a very serious note, you need to consulting specialist for your abdominal pain, sounds concerning. Get those physio sessions in, really. Money can be re-earned.

This post has been edited by MerryGoRound^2: Jun 10 2025, 02:35 AM

When i go oversea i will look for one...
I'm only free when travelling lol, too little time to enjoy life

My abdominal pain is due to overexerted my abs lol, dang the pain lasted like 4 months, i was like man looks like my days were numbered
then my neck + shoulder stiffness, shit keep coming back, due to my heavy backpack...
my age is catching up lol

Anyway, lost Astra 50/50 lol and her w-engine!
welp this will help me guaranteed to get Satanya or Alice

This post has been edited by 1024kbps: Jun 24 2025, 01:50 AM

A 4-month abdominal pain is no laughing matter, bro. I'd be more worried about any underlying medical issues, even if it felt like it was strictly muscle-related. Could be the hypervigilance in me speaking, but I was 6 months late to discovering a friend's passing, though that being said, he's 20 years my senior. We weren't connected on soc med, so I had no means of learning the truth until much later.

Anyway, to keep things light. Don't know if you noticed these callbacks to HK classics in JFF's trailer lol.






I love that the ZZZ team is so heavily in tune with modern memes and references. A shame they won't stop shoving that sense of Chinese pride and immersion into viewers. Would have gladly renewed my Inter-knot Membership, but the writing this patch pushed me away badly. Will just see how things pan out in 2.1. Surprised I got bored of this game (not gameplay, but writing) so soon. In the meantime, might take a backseat on this game and return to Genshin since the game's in its penultimate Natlan patch, which means no more mediocre writing! Also, Skirk.

Well I'm the opposite. Slowly getting burnt out from HSR and Genshin until story progress heavily dragging behind because of work.
So I decided to jump into ZZZ to try it out since 2.0 got many free stuff for newer players.
Managed to grind just enough free pulls for Astra at 71 pity.
Yi Xuan was tempting but knowing Hoyo games top tier supports always last longer than DPS.

Ju Fufu is cute but I'm just going to hoard any future savings for Trigger since I plan to F2P this game for now.

This post has been edited by Oblah: Jun 24 2025, 07:32 PM

I get you, and what you're feeling is totally valid.

I know a lot more players who are dropping Genshin than any other titles. Have never played a patch of HSR, never believed in investing in a turn-based combat so I can't comment
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My case with ZZZ is a little unique. Though I historically never had any problems with powercreeping, I am particularly anal about writing and translation quality. With ZZZ, it's been a steady decline since 1.0 and there's been an absurdly ludicrous amount of transliteration in the English script. It might not be a huge painpoint for many, but having to sit down and read lines such as, "If XXX could get YYY power, it would be like the power of Gods," hurt me. Ditto with names like "Suibian Temple" or "Yum Char Sin," which clearly showed the writers and translators for ZZZ are absolutely piss poor with their work. It's very obvious QC for writing in this game is lacking. Very lacking.

I'm not a lore buff, and I certainly cry as much as some of the crybabies in the Genshin thread with spoilers, but Genshin's team has mostly upheld their quality with translation and writing. My guess is they know very well that lore immersion plays a pivotal role in anchoring players to the game. Most of the people I know who quit Genshin or dropped it somewhat were simply tired of the overall powercreeping, which is also a given. It took Genshin's writing to show a little crack 5 years into the title, and even then, it's still much better than ZZZ. The latter however started underperfoming a year into release.

Where powercreep is concerned, I am starting to see Genshin being a little more unabashed with their marketing strategy. Whether intentional or unintentional, I think ZZZ devs lucked out with their 3-team composition design, which neccessitates players to continue pulling for newer units as the impact each unit has in the lineup is much more significant compared to Genshin's. That said, I will also a friend's statement concerning powercreeping in ZZZ. The title seems to follow a similar balance approach to WuWa. I'm told WuWa's class systems do not have that clear of a segregation between DPSes and Supports.

In WuWa, you're either a traditional, pound-for-pound DPS, or a support with heals and buffs. Anything in between will allow you to play DPS x Buffers/Healers and still sufficiently stat check and answer to endgame content. I.e. Canterella who is a healer and sub dps by design, but can go on-field just as well if players are willing to master her mechanics.

I feel the same about good writing and translations. Genshin has been quite good with how they handle dialogue especially when they try to convey the meanings from the original Chinese script to English or straight up create localised English variants of it. A lot of players do not realise that HoYo games are always written in Chinese first (since they are a Chinese company) and have to walk a fine line between accuracy and localisation. If they try to be as accurate as possible then players would complain about not understanding the grandiose dialogue (since it is difficult to directly translate some Chinese characters and English equivalent words are not commonly used) or would not understand the original wordplay which only works in Chinese. If they make entirely localised translations then you would end up with very different scripts and miss out on the writer's original intentions.

In terms of powercreep, HSR is by far the worst with rampant HP inflation and pumping out new 5-stars every patch, with every shiny new 5-star being better than the rest. They created a new Remembrance Path (Genshin equivalent being weapon type, ZZZ equivalent being Specialties) which has everything from supports to healers to DPS just to lock out players from their Lightcones (Weapon/W-Engine) collections and force them to pull more since the default free options are terrible. Pulling for weapons or dupes is almost always a bad idea since at the rate of powercreep, a new character at low investment will always be better than a highly invested older character.

Natlan was the final straw for some players because the newer bosses always has some gimmick that requires you to pull Natlan or newer characters to overcome the gimmick faster. Putting those bosses in endgame modes and higher difficulty events results in even more frustration. While there are definitely alternative characters and strategies, the majority of the playerbase is casual. I believe only a small single digit percentage of the playerbase actually bothers to clear endgame content. Having a loud minority of the meta players say git gud to the vast majority of the playerbase only reinforces the general notion of rampant powercreep. I do hope the new Nod-Krai region will not heavily rely on regional mechanics like Natlan with Nightsoul. The fact that the broken Natlan artifact sets are locked to Natlan characters (because of the Nightsoul rerquirements) are already an indicator of future powercreep plans, where they simply lock out players from the shiny new stuff unless you pull for the new characters.

Can't comment much on ZZZ since I've only just started but I'm eager to see what the game has to offer, and whether I might go full F2P or contribute some to the devs (in terms of monthly pass).

This post has been edited by Oblah: Jun 26 2025, 02:54 PM