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dennis008
post Apr 3 2025, 03:33 PM

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"I just came back to this game and feel so overwhelmed. Also, I lost the 50/50 when pulling for Trigger.

Can you help me build my team?

My current S-rank agents:

Ellen Joe

Soldier 11

Grace

Koleda

I still have a free standard S-rank agent to choose

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QUOTE(MerryGoRound^2 @ Mar 31 2025, 12:57 PM)
My personal take on the game's exploration is it's semi-linear and the return value lies in the game's combat and endgame content. If you enjoy killing stuff and working toward character progression, this will resonate with you. Otherwise, this game is unlikely to speak to a large audience outside those elements. Plus, it does remind me of an HD version of Honkai Impact.

It's the reason the game has so much free chromes locked behind challenges that ensure you invest more time completing them, or players are unlikely to return following events and main storyline. I haven't burned out on the game, but probably because it's new and Yanagi > every female on-field DPS I've experienced in Genshin. Unfair comparison, but I said what I said.

The way I see it, ZZZ sacrifices exploration, player-environment interaction, attention to details in areas where it doesn't count, and storyline for all the fan service, combat, and graphics. TV mode so happens to fall in the former.
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I have just restarted the game on TW/Macau server,
the CRT maze is really gone and replaced by platform based, Eous 18 can freely move and jump, like mario 3d now.
The difficulty significantly reduced with casual mode.

For story-rich games made by Hoyo, i really wish there's rewind-mode let user replay the game from beginning (with exp retained), instead of start from scratch on new server.

IT's sad to see it gone but it has to be done, i went through the CRT maze and i have to say again the maze is not for everyone, it's confusing and exhausting, i took break many time during the early stage of the game due to time constraint.
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post Apr 13 2025, 02:55 PM

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Welp, guess we're returning to China for 2.X 1024kbps



Lotsa leaks happening.
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post Apr 13 2025, 09:10 PM

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Im saving my tapes for her lol
skipped soldier 0 and trigger...
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post Apr 14 2025, 03:32 PM

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hi, i am a returning player. with the upcoming 1.7 banner i am confused who should i pull. i feel like i need a better dps as my current dps choices are only ellen and soldier 11 and i dont think i want hugo should i go for jane? or try to get zhu yuan within this week? i also just pulled trigger
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post Apr 16 2025, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 14 2025, 03:32 PM)
hi, i am a returning player. with the upcoming 1.7 banner i am confused who should i pull. i feel like i need a better dps as my current dps choices are only ellen and soldier 11 and i dont think i want hugo should i go for jane? or try to get zhu yuan within this week? i also just pulled trigger
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1.7 releases are virtually useless if one, you do not lean heavily into the anomaly playstyle, and two, if you have a serviceable Ice unit to get the job done.

Vivian is strictly a unit intended to elevate the rest of her anomaly peers' damage ceiling. If you've never been into the Anomaly trend, or do not care much for that playstyle, you're better off without her.

Hugo is a tricky one, I believe he got buffed during beta but is simply shaping up to be on Sanby's power level. He isn't going to be powercreeping Miyabi and is strictly a character that people will pull out of love. His gimmick is detonating large amounts of damage during the stun window. Even so, I think these two are in a massively tricky spot with anni patch dropping in 2.0...

Yi Xuan aka the girl in the pv thumbnail is rumored to be of a new Ether role, at which point you would have seen beta leaks and what not. Honestly, I say skip Vivian based on your roster, KIV Hugo but mostly leaning toward skipping. And just prepare for 2.0.


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post Apr 16 2025, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(MerryGoRound^2 @ Apr 16 2025, 03:19 AM)
1.7 releases are virtually useless if one, you do not lean heavily into the anomaly playstyle, and two, if you have a serviceable Ice unit to get the job done.

Vivian is strictly a unit intended to elevate the rest of her anomaly peers' damage ceiling. If you've never been into the Anomaly trend, or do not care much for that playstyle, you're better off without her.

Hugo is a tricky one, I believe he got buffed during beta but is simply shaping up to be on Sanby's power level. He isn't going to be powercreeping Miyabi and is strictly a character that people will pull out of love. His gimmick is detonating large amounts of damage during the stun window. Even so, I think these two are in a massively tricky spot with anni patch dropping in 2.0...

Yi Xuan aka the girl in the pv thumbnail is rumored to be of a new Ether role, at which point you would have seen beta leaks and what not. Honestly, I say skip Vivian based on your roster, KIV Hugo but mostly leaning toward skipping. And just prepare for 2.0.
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waiting until 2.0 is too long haha using only ellen now abit bored of the game play already.. unless i build my soldier 11
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post Apr 16 2025, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 16 2025, 08:48 AM)
waiting until 2.0 is too long haha using only ellen now abit bored of the game play already.. unless i build my soldier 11
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Do that instead. The 1.X trend has skewed heavily toward making Anomaly units meta so much that they introduced several powerhouse Anomaly units back to back, i.e.: Jane, Burnice, Yanagi, and Miyabi in that order.

If you're looking for something exciting to play, you missed out with Miyabi's debut but rumor has it she returns 2.0. Of the 4 units, Vivian is intended to benefit Jane and Yanagi the most, because Phys has been off-meta for several patches, and Yanagi is starting to show signs of falling off in power. Burnice is Burnice, being an off-field agent, she has better value, but doesn't particularly synergize with the two. Hence, the former's release.

We'll be in a filler patch come next Wed, it really isn't worth throwing your tapes in for a moment of instant gratification.
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post Apr 16 2025, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(MerryGoRound^2 @ Apr 16 2025, 03:08 PM)
Do that instead. The 1.X trend has skewed heavily toward making Anomaly units meta so much that they introduced several powerhouse Anomaly units back to back, i.e.: Jane, Burnice, Yanagi, and Miyabi in that order.

If you're looking for something exciting to play, you missed out with Miyabi's debut but rumor has it she returns 2.0. Of the 4 units, Vivian is intended to benefit Jane and Yanagi the most, because Phys has been off-meta for several patches, and Yanagi is starting to show signs of falling off in power. Burnice is Burnice, being an off-field agent, she has better value, but doesn't particularly synergize with the two. Hence, the former's release.

We'll be in a filler patch come next Wed, it really isn't worth throwing your tapes in for a moment of instant gratification.
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since i already have koleda and m6 lucy my s11 is m1 i guess i will build this team and wait for 2.0 i guess


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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 16 2025, 03:27 PM)
since i already have koleda and m6 lucy my s11 is m1 i guess i will build this team and wait for 2.0 i guess
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Might sound crass, but you fucked up massively returning post-1.5 biggrin.gif . There was Evelyn and Astra, and I think you would have enjoyed the two since one happens to be the game's top DPS unit just right behind Miyabi, and the latter is a broken support on par with Caesar.

Sounds like you enjoy the ATK class immensely, and have a thing for Ice and Fire units. Evelyn would have fit the bill for Fire.
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post Apr 16 2025, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(MerryGoRound^2 @ Apr 16 2025, 04:55 PM)
Might sound crass, but you fucked up massively returning post-1.5  biggrin.gif . There was Evelyn and Astra, and I think you would have enjoyed the two since one happens to be the game's top DPS unit just right behind Miyabi, and the latter is a broken support on par with Caesar.

Sounds like you enjoy the ATK class immensely, and have a thing for Ice and Fire units. Evelyn would have fit the bill for Fire.
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yeah i feel like i returned at the wrong time but i guess its still enjoyable.. i wont say i enjoy atk class i just have no choice lol.

i dont like how s11 play. another choice will be getting vivian and since piper will be in the banner i will likely run piper vivian and lucy and save for 2.0. thats only if i dont lose 5050


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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 16 2025, 05:07 PM)
yeah i feel like i returned at the wrong time but i guess its still enjoyable.. i wont say i enjoy atk class i just have no choice lol.

i dont like how s11 play. another choice will be getting vivian and since piper will be in the banner i will likely run piper vivian and lucy and save for 2.0. thats only if i dont lose 5050
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Yeah, Vivi + Piper works. This is the reason I run Anomaly team comps over Attackers because they require Stunners and Supports to function effectively. It requires thrice the work to gear these units.

Whereas Anomaly team comps are simply 2 Anoms + 1 Support to line up Disorders back-to-back, with no required investment whatsoever for most anomaly units in their talents. Be warned however. Piper is energy-intensive and requires animation canceling to get the most mileage out of her spin.


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post Apr 20 2025, 04:00 PM

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Practicing Typhoon Destroyer on it's final day of the DA cycle.

Yanagi Hypercarry comp

1024kbps Link expires 2 days from DOP tongue.gif.

Tryna hit the max score of 65k is funnnn
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post Apr 20 2025, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(MerryGoRound^2 @ Apr 20 2025, 04:00 PM)
Practicing Typhoon Destroyer on it's final day of the DA cycle.

Yanagi Hypercarry comp

1024kbps Link expires 2 days from DOP tongue.gif.

Tryna hit the max score of 65k is funnnn
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i vaguely remember played this before but i only focused on getting rewards, not high scores.
very impressive with yanagi, im focusing with Miyabi first, after getting her skills up to certain level, then i will change to Yanagi
as both agents have their own w-engine, other will have to wait

dang im playing on 720p... at 30fps
my expensive tablet very difficult to game lol
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post Apr 20 2025, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 20 2025, 05:15 PM)
i vaguely remember played this before but i only focused on getting rewards, not high scores.
very impressive with yanagi, im focusing with Miyabi first, after getting her skills up to certain level, then i will change to Yanagi
as both agents have their own w-engine, other will have to wait

dang im playing on 720p... at 30fps
my expensive tablet very difficult to game lol
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One of the many reasons I enjoy Yanagi. Masterful parries will let you remain on-field for days unless it's to swap the support for debuffs and setting up.

The could be better considering I'm an M6 Yanagi, but getting Typhoon Destroyer's animations down to a pat is a little tricky. Still happy nonetheless.

Seems like Deadly Assault is the benchmark for performances now, and the only reason Yanagi is still considered A tier is her ability to 65k the content, which no other Electric DPS can effortlessly. She is starting to show early signs of struggling. Even Jane Doe is widely considered unimpressive as a hypercarry and needs to play Disorders to bounce back, also in part because DA hasn't recycled any phys-weak content.

Miyabi is Miyabi and doesn't have issues considering her overtuned numbers.
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Worth watching for folks planning to go for Vivian.

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post Apr 23 2025, 10:28 AM

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won 5050 got new waifu yeah
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post Apr 23 2025, 02:35 PM

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https://x.com/Gacha_Zone/status/1914893256086766074
60 chrome

got underskirt Thrusters and her w-engine
at least ~70 tape went to her and her engine, now only left 2K chrome lol

robin the bangboo
https://x.com/Gacha_Zone/status/1910788104597680205

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post Apr 24 2025, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Apr 23 2025, 10:28 AM)
won 5050 got new waifu yeah
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You mean Vivian? Grats!
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post Apr 26 2025, 04:57 PM

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I'm glad they didn't completely ditching the TV mode, welp, completely redesign will ruin the game quality

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